:We could just put it forward to people in the chat and see what they think. I mean, it could either be listed as a remix of "[[The Wretched]]" or get its own page, on which there could be a note about the debate over whether it's a remix or an original.--[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 12:22, 30 August 2007 (PDT)
::andallthatcouldhavebeen.com (dead link now, but there's a backup somewhere, but i forget where) said it was a song recorded for [[The Fragile (halo)|The Fragile]], but wasn't finished in time, so Trent slapped those lyrics from "The Wretched" in to finish it for inclusion on [[Things Falling Apart]]. -[[User:Heroicraptor|Heroicraptor]] 13:23, 30 August 2007 (PDT)
==Inclusion in NIN Instrumentals category==
totally disagreed with that edit. this isn't instrumental, period. - [[User:Seasonsinthesky|seasonsinthesky]] 13:24, 13 December 2010 (PST)