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==Song Pages==

I noticed that you're creating quite a few song pages. That's really helpful, but if you don't classify them as song pages using <nowiki>[[Category:NIN Songs]]</nowiki>, then it's kinda hard to find them. Also, if you could include more information than just lyrics, that would be great. -[[User:Heroicraptor|Heroicraptor]] 22:26, 17 February 2007 (PST)

==IRC Log==

Session Start (Local:#iamtryingtobelieve): Mon Feb 19 08:33:24 2007

[08:33 AM] *** Initial topic: Welcome to #iamtryingtobelieve | OFF TOPIC BULLSHIT = BOOT | Year-Zero stuff ONLY | No, nothing new. Don't ask.

[08:33 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve: VaelekWork greenhell Delusional insip Mr_Grim_N_Evil xvs aeryxz hokkaido bizz0ch airbag84 mranachronism lamerjoe scorpionz @TonySt j_ jerx Vaelek Nyarlathotep cut @heroicraptor Malechite Bobo_Minky @yourexissleeping transient_foible vVdravenVv Drazhar torrefaction `3kiLLa @OPALESCENTHAZE Nitret mice chroipahtz P-Frank tp123 c0 cynicmuse pravus rue VinzClortho Mount[a]inGirl psicom dona Starblade|[Work] +LordMael +casualty +ZeroLux

[08:33 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve was created on Thu Feb 15 13:12:15 2007.

[08:33 AM] greenhell: hasnt changes to the YZ site been in the past a signal that something new was coming??

[08:34 AM] xvs: sure

[08:34 AM] xvs: lookout for big hand from the sky

[08:35 AM] greenhell: lol

[08:36 AM] greenhell: i meant another piece of the puzzle, or am i being a tru noob

[08:36 AM] xvs: ;)

[08:36 AM] mranachronism: he's goin to thump you in the back of the head and knock your brains

[08:36 AM] xvs: i guess we need to find that added pattern on other sites

[08:36 AM] mranachronism: out

[08:37 AM] xvs: and find other letter

[08:37 AM] xvs: (hidden)

[08:39 AM] * xvs fcukin wanna sleep :/

[08:40 AM] mranachronism: go ahead

[08:41 AM] greenhell: the pixels between track 8 and 9 (grey and maroon) looks like theres a digital number three in the maroon part.

[08:42 AM] greenhell: does that mean anything?

[08:42 AM] mranachronism: o_O

[08:43 AM] mranachronism: i'm not sure, but it definitely looks like a 3

[08:43 AM] greenhell: has anybody else noticed that?

[08:44 AM] mranachronism: dunno

[08:45 AM] xvs: heh... its only 5.45pm and i'm at work

[08:46 AM] mranachronism: xvs do you see the 3?

[08:46 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: I think i see it.

[08:47 AM] mranachronism: zoom in on it if you need to

[08:47 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Ya its a 3.

[08:47 AM] mranachronism: there's also a darker maroon dot in the maroon

[08:48 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Well what could be taken aa 3 or just more squares.

[08:49 AM] xvs: yeh, it's like 3

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[08:49 AM] xvs: but i guess its not 3 really

[08:50 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: And track 3 is survivalism.

[08:50 AM] xvs: cos it's like same-kind artefact on green squares at left

[08:50 AM] xvs: we're waiting for the next leaked track - me i'm not?

[08:50 AM] xvs: :)

[08:50 AM] mranachronism: why that one?

[08:50 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: ?

[08:51 AM] mranachronism: the gray bar?

[08:51 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Was the gray bar there before?

[08:52 AM] mranachronism: i think so

[08:52 AM] greenhell: it wasnt there friday

[08:52 AM] mranachronism: anybody seen anything in the top left? besides the obvious

[08:53 AM] greenhell: not me

[08:53 AM] greenhell: but im not very good at puzzles.

[08:56 AM] mranachronism: i don't see anythin in the top left either

[08:57 AM] mranachronism: i put it in ps and fucked w/ the brightness/contrast.. and still nothin

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[09:04 AM] greenhell: ok not sure but i am trying.

[09:05 AM] more: boo@no developments this weekend :( i was busy, so it's probably my fault.

[09:06 AM] mranachronism: oh you work for 42e ;p

[09:06 AM] more: lol, nah ;D

[09:06 AM] mranachronism: im jk

[09:06 AM] BYTE-Smasher: xvs: did you notice if 00000.gif changed along with the tracklist?

[09:07 AM] greenhell: on the bethehammer page, mallory link. i see the *do* surrounded by asterisks. then on the interogation link

[09:07 AM] BYTE-Smasher: oh it DID change! :o

[09:07 AM] BYTE-Smasher: :O

[09:07 AM] BYTE-Smasher: shit

[09:07 AM] BYTE-Smasher: they knew I was on to them so they CHANGED THE CODE!!!!

[09:07 AM] more: squares near MVH is to churchofplano, as squares further to the left is to ???

[09:07 AM] BYTE-Smasher: the world is ending!!! :O

[09:08 AM] greenhell: section "connecting" betwen the two quotes "or" stands out.

[09:09 AM] BYTE-Smasher: what the FUCK

[09:09 AM] BYTE-Smasher: there's 57 color codes now!!! >:(

[09:09 AM] greenhell: then on carver 1 and 10 are in quotes.

[09:10 AM] BYTE-Smasher: 23 of which are shades of flesh color

[09:10 AM] BYTE-Smasher: wth

[09:10 AM] greenhell: so backwards from that i get door 110. probably nothing but this is the fun of it.

[09:10 AM] more: umm, that obviously means that the other 34 are ALIEN skin tones

[09:12 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I'm lost now

[09:12 AM] BYTE-Smasher: that's just messed

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[09:14 AM] Garick|YZ: Survivalism has converted my girlfriend to nin.

[09:14 AM] Garick|YZ: woot.

[09:14 AM] mranachronism: odd

[09:15 AM] xvs: BYTE-Smasher> yeh, sure

[09:16 AM] Garick|YZ: I'm guessing you don't like it then? She likes the driving beat and "all a part of this great nation"

[09:17 AM] mranachronism: i like mvh better

[09:17 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I like survivalism

[09:17 AM] BYTE-Smasher: :)

[09:17 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I like both

[09:17 AM] more: instrumentation on survivalism > mvh. lyrics on survivalism > mvh. both choruses own.

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[09:18 AM] Garick|YZ: She likes both, I have to say though, mvh requires a good speaker / headphone set

[09:18 AM] Garick|YZ: when i first listened to it at work the squeaking ness was almost painful.

[09:18 AM] more: lol, both do. my girlfriend heard them first through an iTrip... FM compression makes those songs hurt

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[09:18 AM] * xvs abit workin:/

[09:18 AM] Garick|YZ: on my sennheiser's they are much better

[09:19 AM] Garick|YZ: i don't like the song with teeth in my car

[09:19 AM] Garick|YZ: because the tweeters make it annoying :(

[09:19 AM] more: i can't listen to anything without thinking about how much better it would sound through my bose phones

[09:20 AM] Garick|YZ: I never knew what kind of equalizing I should do for NIN

[09:20 AM] Garick|YZ: I wish every CD was like... "listen to it like this"

[09:22 AM] more: lol... yeah

[09:23 AM] more: i have most songs on presets for my ipod, depending on the song it's either 'electronic' 'deep' 'treb boost' or 'vocal boost'

[09:24 AM] greenhell: could someone link me to these songs?

[09:25 AM] Garick|YZ: (Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/16792328/NIN_-_Survivalism.mp3)http://rapidshare.com/files/16792328/NIN_-_Survivalism.mp3

[09:25 AM] Garick|YZ: (or should I not do that? sorry if there's some unwritten rule)

[09:26 AM] more: for the two year zero tracks i don't think it matters... they're SUPPOSED to be shared electronically for free

[09:29 AM] greenhell: you all think that TR has been leading us all up to this release for a while. cause i listen to things like "the day the whole world went away" and others and get that impression.

[09:31 AM] greenhell: i like that track... its got the "further down..." feel to it.

[09:31 AM] Garick|YZ: I think he just tied back to old tracks

[09:31 AM] Garick|YZ: not really leading up to it

[09:31 AM] Garick|YZ: he did it in other cds

[09:31 AM] greenhell: maybe i am think a little "fixed"

[09:31 AM] Garick|YZ: always using lyrics like nothing can stop me now

[09:32 AM] Garick|YZ: i highly doubted he sat on this idea for 15 years+

[09:32 AM] greenhell: i think hes one of the more underrated talents of our time.

[09:33 AM] Garick|YZ: won't get any argument here

[09:34 AM] more: if he WANTED to, he could dominate charts with little effort. lol

[09:34 AM] greenhell: well queensryche had the idea for Mindcrime II when they released the first one. and look how long they waited.

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[09:35 AM] greenhell: i totally agree with that.

[09:35 AM] `3kiLLa: im glad he doesnt want to

[09:35 AM] mranachronism: heh

[09:35 AM] more: yeah... imagine an even MORE pop-sensible with teeth, without tracks like sunspots, BYIT, and the title track...

[09:36 AM] `3kiLLa: god i wouldnt like that too much

[09:36 AM] `3kiLLa: id accept it and listen

[09:36 AM] `3kiLLa: but wouldnt become my favorite

[09:36 AM] mranachronism: do you think he'll ever just play/release music under his name and play alone

[09:36 AM] greenhell: why

[09:36 AM] `3kiLLa: trent reznor is nine inch nails

[09:36 AM] greenhell: exactly

[09:36 AM] mranachronism: i know

[09:37 AM] `3kiLLa: he has played shows under his name

[09:37 AM] `3kiLLa: like the bridge concert

[09:37 AM] more: i dunno... if he did that we'd probably just get things like 'Videodrones, Questions' and 'Driver Down' ...although i do quite like driver down ;D

[09:37 AM] mranachronism: ya

[09:37 AM] greenhell: he could build an album by himself in the studio

[09:37 AM] `3kiLLa: unless he falls off the map, he wont ever release anything in his name

[09:38 AM] `3kiLLa: even then, he will find a way to come back with an alter ego

[09:38 AM] mranachronism: hah

[09:38 AM] BYTE-Smasher: driver down kicks ass

[09:38 AM] BYTE-Smasher: ASS

[09:38 AM] BYTE-Smasher: .

[09:38 AM] more: musical alter egos are LAME. except for Buster Poindexter

[09:39 AM] BYTE-Smasher: well, I quite like certain musical alter egos

[09:39 AM] BYTE-Smasher: it allows musicians to focus on different sounds

[09:40 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I mean

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[09:40 AM] BYTE-Smasher: it's stupid when they're secret alter egos

[09:40 AM] BYTE-Smasher: but when everyone knows it's their other project

[09:40 AM] BYTE-Smasher: it's ok

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[09:43 AM] Garick|YZ: anyone listend to saul williams?

[09:44 AM] Garick|YZ: would i like it?

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[09:44 AM] `3kiLLa: saul williams is mindful intelligent hip hop with almost an industrial feel to it

[09:44 AM] `3kiLLa: not your average sounding beats

[09:44 AM] `3kiLLa: he seems to be against the typical black person

[09:45 AM] mranachronism: i'm not sure garick, it's definitely worth a try tho

[09:45 AM] `3kiLLa: one song i like by him is black stacey

[09:46 AM] `3kiLLa: if u wanted to check that out, i know he would perform that when he was opening

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[09:58 AM] TonySt: WHAT DOES SAUL WILLIAMS HAVE TO DO WITH YEAR ZERO?

[09:58 AM] TonySt: er..

[09:58 AM] TonySt: THE YEAR ZERO ARG?

[09:58 AM] BYTE-Smasher: anyone know where I can find archives of the yearzero minisite changes?

[09:59 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I've got an hour to blow atm

[09:59 AM] TonySt: symphony of destruction

[09:59 AM] BYTE-Smasher: (Link: http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/webzip%20site%20rips/)http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/webzip%20site%20rips/

[09:59 AM] BYTE-Smasher: you mean there?

[09:59 AM] TonySt: (Link: http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/yearzero.nin.com/0.gif_images_by_GMT_timestamp/)http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/yearzero.nin.com/0.gif_images_by_GMT_timestamp/

[09:59 AM] TonySt: there.

[10:00 AM] BYTE-Smasher: there's no minisite archives unless it's in the zip

[10:00 AM] BYTE-Smasher: oh

[10:00 AM] TonySt: there's really only one big change to any of the updates, and it's the 0.gif images.

[10:00 AM] BYTE-Smasher: *heh*

[10:00 AM] BYTE-Smasher: well

[10:00 AM] TonySt: the 0000.gifs are like...the same.

[10:00 AM] BYTE-Smasher: 00000.gif has been changing

[10:00 AM] BYTE-Smasher: it just changed

[10:01 AM] TonySt: aah.

[10:01 AM] BYTE-Smasher: seems it's the first change though

[10:01 AM] BYTE-Smasher: according to that site

[10:01 AM] BYTE-Smasher: hmm

[10:03 AM] BYTE-Smasher: this is wierd

[10:03 AM] BYTE-Smasher: damned arg... getting me all interested

[10:04 AM] `3kiLLa: yea it has some more marks on it

[10:04 AM] BYTE-Smasher: k... I've gotta change rooms here... seems like a class is coming in

[10:04 AM] BYTE-Smasher: brb

[10:08 AM] morethanshapes: so absolutely NOTHING came of the bilbao show... wtf.

[10:08 AM] morethanshapes: i guess the hobbit crap was just completely random 42e douchebaggery

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[10:11 AM] hippygeek: Yaaaawn mumble mumble...

[10:12 AM] hippygeek: people are wetting themselves that the graphic updated. I can't wait to see what will happen when there's some real action.

[10:12 AM] ZeroLux: changes?

[10:12 AM] ZeroLux: something change?

[10:12 AM] morethanshapes: 00000.gif at yearzero.nin.com added like 4 squares

[10:13 AM] ZeroLux: rezzie wtf are you upto? damn. such minor additions, it's growing, but why?

[10:14 AM] hippygeek: because me, I'm not is leaking today?

[10:14 AM] mranachronism: i think they have that site planned out down to the hour up to the release

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[10:16 AM] ZeroLux: i'm just waiting for BYIT to hit, that's what i want to see

[10:17 AM] `3kiLLa: i think that the green spot will eventually grow into something, maybe the presence, maybe something else

[10:17 AM] `3kiLLa: very difficult to determine at this point

[10:21 AM] mouse: so track 6 has little colored boxes by it now

[10:21 AM] xvs: i guess byit will be full of secrets

[10:22 AM] mouse: the colors seemed to predict My Violent Heart's release

[10:22 AM] xvs: anyway strange squares i already found in preview makes me curioãs

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[10:23 AM] * aaronr quietly shuffles in

[10:24 AM] vVdravenVv: i cant tell what site the new squares are from

[10:25 AM] aaronr: (I only discovered this ARG yesterday, so I'm still coming up to speed... I'll lurk quietly until I've read up a bit more. Nothing worse than asking questions that have been asked 30 times already. :) )

[10:25 AM] `3kiLLa: yes im sure byit is gonna have some easter egg type deals

[10:25 AM] `3kiLLa: aaronr: best thing to do is check the ninwiki, or read the posts on ets

[10:25 AM] `3kiLLa: ninwiki has a bunch of weak leads/strong leads

[10:26 AM] ATECHGRINHURTS: 0t or t0 ring a bell with anyone? the charaters covered by the artifacts

[10:26 AM] aaronr: `3kiLLa: yeah, I'm on the ETS forums now. Not made it as far as the wiki yet.

[10:26 AM] aaronr: Thanks.

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[10:26 AM] `3kiLLa: np

[10:27 AM] `3kiLLa: mostly everything to this point has been covered pretty extensively

[10:28 AM] ZeroLux: sure that's a 't', and not a 'y', for 'y'ear 0?

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[10:30 AM] ATECHGRINHURTS: im pretty sure MVH ends with a t. The artifacts on yearzero.nin.com

[10:30 AM] ZeroLux: ah

[10:30 AM] ZeroLux: thought something else that was curious had been found

[10:30 AM] ZeroLux: my mistakre

[10:31 AM] BYTE-Smasher: curious is that 00000.gif changed ;)

[10:36 AM] aaronr: On the ETS forums, it mentions keeping track of IP 69.20.104.25. I'm confused as to why.

[10:38 AM] ZeroLux: it's inbetween two other verified website's ip addresses

[10:38 AM] ZeroLux: it's a long shot with a slight possibility of panning out

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[10:38 AM] aaronr: ah, okay. :)

[10:38 AM] DeadB0dy: Afternoon everyone

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[10:46 AM] Drazhar: still no new leads? thats sad ;-;

[10:48 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: The nin min site changed.

[10:49 AM] Drazhar: 1 picture right?

[10:50 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Yup.

[10:50 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: But hats it.

[10:50 AM] BYTE-Smasher: 2 pics changed

[10:50 AM] BYTE-Smasher: 0 and 00000

[10:50 AM] Drazhar: oh!

[10:50 AM] BYTE-Smasher: this is the first time 00000 changed

[10:50 AM] BYTE-Smasher: ;)

[10:52 AM] Drazhar: huh, i didnt get a message about the 00000 one from that gtalk bot thing

[10:53 AM] BYTE-Smasher: well it changed

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[10:58 AM] insip: have u got old 1?

[10:58 AM] Keymaster: HAY IS THAR ANYTHING NEW? har har har

[10:59 AM] Drazhar: 2 pictures changed on yearzero.nin.com!

[10:59 AM] Keymaster: i think i'll make a new account, ignore merz's main YZ ARG post then make really stupid posts linking churchofplano to a box of cheerios!

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[11:02 AM] mranachronism: haha

[11:03 AM] TonySt: Keymaster, i'll block you! :-D

[11:03 AM] Keymaster: :E

[11:03 AM] Keymaster: no offense to forum newbies, we were all newbies once, but man

[11:04 AM] Keymaster: the stuff these newly registered users come up with is excruciating

[11:04 AM] xvs: Æ)

[11:04 AM] TonySt: Then, if you continue to vandalize, i'll kickban you from both #iamtryingtobelieve AND #yearzero :-D

[11:04 AM] xvs: fortunately we're not spiral

[11:05 AM] insip: xvs u tebya screena starogo yz.nin.com net? %)

[11:06 AM] SmasherOfBytes: Keymaster: is my theory excruciating? :p

[11:06 AM] xvs: óóóóó

[11:06 AM] xvs: eeeee

[11:06 AM] insip: s?

[11:06 AM] insip: )

[11:08 AM] xvs: (Link: http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/Image/nin.com_today_images_by_GMT_timestamp/)http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/Image/nin.com_today_images_by_GMT_timestamp/

[11:09 AM] xvs: tam level up - yz screens

[11:09 AM] Malechite: hmm distortion by me, im not

[11:09 AM] Malechite: that would be cool if THAT cleaked

[11:09 AM] Malechite: leaked

[11:09 AM] xvs: (Link: http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/)http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/

[11:11 AM] insip: o y 10x

[11:11 AM] Keymaster: awesome BatTrent pic

[11:13 AM] insip: )))

[11:16 AM] Malechite: TonySt OP

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[11:16 AM] *** Mode change "+o Malechite" for channel #iamtryingtobelieve by TonySt.

[11:16 AM] Malechite: • Thanks for the @ •

[11:16 AM] TonySt: don't go crazy.

[11:16 AM] Malechite: im going to kick everyone

[11:16 AM] TonySt: okay. just don't go crazy

[11:16 AM] TonySt: :-D

[11:16 AM] Malechite: okay

[11:16 AM] xvs: :)))

[11:17 AM] TonySt: fatso.

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[11:45 AM] SmasherOfBytes: go canada! :D

[11:45 AM] teamcanuck: ok, i have a thought.....

[11:45 AM] SmasherOfBytes: :o

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[11:46 AM] teamcanuck: u know the song MVH how it was in the thumb drive, and NOTHING other than the "static" at the end was found with it

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[11:46 AM] teamcanuck: and the "static" isnt really even a clue

[11:46 AM] teamcanuck: so..

[11:46 AM] SmasherOfBytes: yes

[11:46 AM] keithg: You guys heard about the changing file? The site tracker alerted me.

[11:46 AM] `3kiLLLa: what file changed?

[11:46 AM] keithg: (Link: http://yearzero.nin.com/0.gif)http://yearzero.nin.com/0.gif

[11:46 AM] SmasherOfBytes: 0.gif and 00000.gif changed

[11:46 AM] keithg: Yeah.

[11:46 AM] SmasherOfBytes: 00000.gif also changed

[11:46 AM] `3kiLLLa: yes fully aware

[11:46 AM] SmasherOfBytes: :)

[11:46 AM] keithg: OK, good.

[11:46 AM] teamcanuck: you know how in the first verse, bridge, second verse, and at the end of the song the "bass" bounces

[11:46 AM] keithg: I logged on and that was the first thing that popped up.

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[11:47 AM] `3kiLLLa: finish a thought before leaving mr canada

[11:47 AM] keithg: Ha ha.

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[11:48 AM] SmasherOfBytes: it's times like this that I'm sorry I'm canadian... actually, no, I'm not

[11:48 AM] teamcanuck: it comes to 24.15.8

[11:48 AM] SmasherOfBytes: XD

[11:48 AM] `3kiLLLa: what does

[11:48 AM] `3kiLLLa: lol

[11:48 AM] teamcanuck: count the bass beats in MVH

[11:48 AM] teamcanuck: skip all the ones during the bridge

[11:48 AM] teamcanuck: 24 in vrist verse

[11:48 AM] Jubb: NO WAI

[11:48 AM] SmasherOfBytes: O.O

[11:48 AM] teamcanuck: 15 in second

[11:49 AM] xvs: yay

[11:49 AM] teamcanuck: 8 at the end before static

[11:49 AM] `3kiLLLa: really dig that song huh

[11:49 AM] SmasherOfBytes: see, that's going a bit far I think

[11:49 AM] teamcanuck: has ANYONE htought of this before?

[11:49 AM] Jubb: but why skip the bridge? I mean some of this stuff could just be we're looking for the number too hard, see it everywhere

[11:49 AM] SmasherOfBytes: I can't see trent having written a song with the arg in mind

[11:49 AM] `3kiLLLa: bridge could be the .?

[11:49 AM] teamcanuck: but thats kind of a weird coincidence

[11:49 AM] `3kiLLLa: what letter would that correspond to

[11:50 AM] Drazhar: 24.15.8 = W

[11:50 AM] `3kiLLLa: does that seem to fit anywhere?

[11:50 AM] aychseven: O+W = OW. trent's hurt! OMG

[11:50 AM] Drazhar: of course!

[11:50 AM] teamcanuck: lol

[11:51 AM] `3kiLLLa: ahh fuck, could be

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[11:51 AM] `3kiLLLa: im gonna sit back and wait for more clues, thats a bit off the wall

[11:51 AM] Jubb: Hurt? ; ) nice song

[11:51 AM] Jubb: lol

[11:52 AM] Drazhar: so if 24.15.8 really is a real letter

[11:52 AM] `3kiLLLa: but later on if it fits, nice job canuck

[11:52 AM] aychseven: *sigh* we need a clue cause this is just getting insane

[11:52 AM] Drazhar: it would end up being the last one

[11:52 AM] Drazhar: ugodgivenanionw

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[11:52 AM] Drazhar: ugodgivenanoinw*

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[11:53 AM] `3kiLLLa: hmmm, trent has been getting down with some rappers, wu = wutang?

[11:53 AM] Jubb: throw up the WU

[11:53 AM] aychseven: or going to school. walden university?

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[11:53 AM] aychseven: you suck at irc ;)

[11:53 AM] teamcanuck: x( keeps kicking me off

[11:53 AM] teamcanuck: im at school

[11:54 AM] aychseven: hmm you'd think theres gotta be a good java web client out there...

[11:54 AM] TonySt: and you suck at irc.

[11:54 AM] TonySt: there is,

[11:54 AM] TonySt: hold on.

[11:54 AM] TonySt: (Link: http://java.freenode.net/)http://java.freenode.net/

[11:54 AM] TonySt: that's better than the ircathome one.

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[11:55 AM] Jubb: anyone got the link for that site tracker I don't remember what it is

[11:56 AM] aychseven: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20352)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20352

[11:56 AM] Jubb: ty

[11:56 AM] aychseven: np

[11:56 AM] rue: The bars at MVH look like colour coding

[11:57 AM] teamcanuck2: color coding?

[11:57 AM] Jubb: they reminded me of the 105th medals, but I couldn't find one that matched

[11:58 AM] teamcanuck2: ic

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[12:00 PM] ZeroLux: i find it personally interesting that the main page of 'bethehammer.net' has the word(s) 'eurochips' in grey where 'neurochips' is... think about it... eurochips- memory keys found in bathroom stalls, i europe no less... coincidence? i think not.

[12:00 PM] teamcanuck2: true

[12:00 PM] `3kiLLLa: hmm very thoughtful observation

[12:01 PM] Jubb: hooly fuck

[12:01 PM] teamcanuck2: what?

[12:02 PM] Jubb: Did anyone notice the # of dashes before AUTO_RESPONSE is 24, and then after it are 14 before a random underscore, and then 2 more

[12:02 PM] rue: Yep

[12:02 PM] Jubb: in the email you get if you email water@iamtryingtobelieve

[12:02 PM] Jubb: damn hahah

[12:02 PM] xvs: ~5-6 days ago

[12:02 PM] Jubb: sorry i'm still reading through tryin to catch up

[12:02 PM] Jubb: lol

[12:02 PM] Keymaster: thats in merz's main post on the forums

[12:03 PM] Jubb: i'll keep things to myself then

[12:03 PM] Keymaster: :E

[12:03 PM] Keymaster: just read the main thread, it'll catch you up in a hurry

[12:03 PM] Keymaster: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20265)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20265 <-- that

[12:03 PM] Jubb: yeah i'm on page 10 right now n_n

[12:04 PM] ZeroLux: weak link (eurochips) but i still think there has to be something to that text... a web dev co wont go so far as to distort stuff that much for nothing, it's just extra work that could've been done easier than they did if it was all meaningless

[12:04 PM] aychseven: only ~205 to go then!

[12:05 PM] teamcanuck2: lol good luck!

[12:05 PM] ZeroLux: you'll quit reading the forum around pg30. it's all repetative bs and goes nowhere.

[12:05 PM] Jubb: indeed but it's like crack I can't stop reading

[12:05 PM] ZeroLux: i should know. i read all 200+ pages over the course of this arg.

[12:05 PM] aychseven: oof

[12:05 PM] ZeroLux: yeah i had that problem too, but i just had to say 'no'.

[12:06 PM] `3kiLLLa: yea im always reading the new posts, so i dont come in here and ask the same shit as everybody else

[12:06 PM] teamcanuck2: lol i skipped pages 3-40

[12:06 PM] ZeroLux: a lot of asshats out there saying the same shit over and over, then talking about irrelevant crap on top of it

[12:06 PM] `3kiLLLa: yep

[12:06 PM] Keymaster: yeah on that thread you only need the first page

[12:06 PM] teamcanuck2: but i started following this back at page 60ish

[12:06 PM] Keymaster: it summarizes everything good

[12:06 PM] `3kiLLLa: just clutters everything, atleast we have the main page

[12:06 PM] ZeroLux: OOH! did anyone see opalescenthaze.co...CANITASSWIPE-IT'SNOTRELATED!

[12:06 PM] Keymaster: hahaha

[12:07 PM] Keymaster: there should be a filter in place for that site

[12:07 PM] ZeroLux: hah

[12:07 PM] ZeroLux: change it to something absurd

[12:07 PM] Keymaster: opalescenthaze.com->BAN ME

[12:07 PM] aychseven: they changed it

[12:07 PM] ZeroLux: hey! did anyone see __totallygayasssex.com___!?

[12:07 PM] aychseven: if you haven't seen "This was an experiment to see whether contextual clues could convince people over technical facts: i.e., how far down the rabbit hole can one fall?"

[12:07 PM] insip: "It's fake" in title)

[12:07 PM] teamcanuck2: yeah i was just gonna post it

[12:08 PM] * ZeroLux sighs

[12:08 PM] xvs: OMGOMGOMG opalescenthazedatings.com

[12:08 PM] xvs: ;)

[12:08 PM] aychseven: lol

[12:08 PM] ZeroLux: it'd be nice if they could release a new tidbit of data we could devour and pick apart bit by tiny bit

[12:08 PM] `3kiLLLa: aychseven: opalescenthaze is pebkacs site

[12:08 PM] `3kiLLLa: he admitted it was all fake lol

[12:09 PM] aychseven: well i'm sure they could, but they like seeing us suffer

[12:09 PM] ZeroLux: this dried up quicker than Brittany Spears cunt at a redneck convention

[12:09 PM] aychseven: ewww

[12:09 PM] ZeroLux: shit was that outloud?

[12:09 PM] ZeroLux: my bad. ignore that mental image.

[12:09 PM] xvs: mm.. brittany or britney?

[12:09 PM] rue: OMG! The Authority got to opalescenthaze.com!

[12:09 PM] ZeroLux: at least her carpet matches her drapes now. or vice-versa.

[12:09 PM] `3kiLLLa: either/or shes bald now

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[12:09 PM] rue: We must devote all our energies on that site now

[12:09 PM] ZeroLux: xvs: i've not slept since 10am yesterday... gimme a break.

[12:10 PM] xvs: ;))

[12:10 PM] teamcanuck2: lmao excuses

[12:10 PM] ZeroLux: not like i listen to her, or care two shits how to properly spell her name

[12:10 PM] ZeroLux: i just want to go home and go to sleep

[12:10 PM] xvs: just curious

[12:10 PM] xvs: heres all call her britney

[12:10 PM] ZeroLux: appriciate the attention to detail though. it shows you really care.

[12:11 PM] ZeroLux: crap i fucked that up too.

[12:11 PM] ZeroLux: appreciate.

[12:11 PM] ZeroLux: ack

[12:11 PM] ZeroLux: again

[12:11 PM] ZeroLux: fuckit i quit.

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[12:34 PM] greenhell: any new developments??

[12:34 PM] torrefaction: Anyone looking into the change in 0.gif?

[12:34 PM] xvs: greenhell 0.gif

[12:35 PM] greenhell: link me

[12:36 PM] heroicraptor: yearzero.nin.com

[12:36 PM] heroicraptor: duh

[12:36 PM] greenhell: anymore about the number "3" on that page.

[12:36 PM] greenhell: duh sorry

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[12:47 PM] greenhell: anybody noticed that the pixels next to MVH are the same as the ones next to "our mission" @ the COP site??

[12:48 PM] heroicraptor: yes

[12:48 PM] greenhell: ok sorry, trying to catch up.

[12:48 PM] *** heroicraptor has changed the topic on channel #iamtryingtobelieve to Welcome to #iamtryingtobelieve | OFF TOPIC BULLSHIT = BOOT | Year-Zero stuff ONLY | Maybe something new. Ask.

[12:48 PM] *** heroicraptor has changed the topic on channel #iamtryingtobelieve to Welcome to #iamtryingtobelieve | OFF TOPIC BULLSHIT = BOOT | Year-Zero stuff ONLY | Maybe something new. Ask..

[12:48 PM] heroicraptor: it's ok

[12:49 PM] teamcanuck: lol so whats new?

[12:49 PM] teamcanuck: is my # gonna be added?

[12:49 PM] heroicraptor: your #?

[12:50 PM] teamcanuck: i found 24.15.8 in MVH i told ppl about a hr or so ago

[12:50 PM] heroicraptor: put it on the wiki

[12:50 PM] heroicraptor: ninwiki.com/Numbers

[12:50 PM] teamcanuck: kk

[12:50 PM] `3kiLLLa: hmmm what seems to be new

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[12:54 PM] teamcanuck: ive added it

[12:55 PM] heroicraptor: teamcanuck, (Link: http://ninwiki.com/Year_Zero_Bible_References)http://ninwiki.com/Year_Zero_Bible_References

[12:55 PM] heroicraptor: add it there too

[12:56 PM] heroicraptor: with its corresponding bible passage

[12:56 PM] teamcanuck: k

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[01:00 PM] ZeroLux: you *found* 24.15.8....? morse?

[01:00 PM] Malechite: yeah where did you find that

[01:00 PM] teamcanuck: where do i find bible passages?

[01:00 PM] heroicraptor: read the numbers page

[01:00 PM] heroicraptor: teamcanuck, in the bible

[01:01 PM] teamcanuck: lol wheres the bible on the net?

[01:01 PM] heroicraptor: google

[01:02 PM] ZeroLux: where's the info on that discovery?

[01:03 PM] ZeroLux: ets says nothing new

[01:03 PM] heroicraptor: 24.15.8

[01:03 PM] heroicraptor: Found by counting the bass "beats" in the song My Violent Heart (minus the beats in the bridge)

[01:03 PM] heroicraptor: First Verse = 24 Second Verse = 15 End Of Song (Just Before "Static") = 8

[01:03 PM] heroicraptor: Corresponds to letter "w"

[01:03 PM] heroicraptor: teamcanuck found it

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[01:04 PM] ZeroLux: really... nice call tc

[01:04 PM] ZeroLux: i wondered if there was a rhythmic pattern there somewhere

[01:04 PM] ZeroLux: listening to it again now

[01:04 PM] ZeroLux: it was too chaotic for me to follow without the spectral in front of me

[01:07 PM] SoundlyAsleep: would trent really compromize the music like that you think? isn't that going too far?

[01:08 PM] cynicmuse: I'm voting for coincidence

[01:08 PM] SoundlyAsleep: me too

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[01:09 PM] teamcanuck: well if its 'only' a coincidence that its a pretty good one :P the chances of 24 beats...

[01:09 PM] SoundlyAsleep: i guess you can find those numbers anywhere if you try

[01:09 PM] SoundlyAsleep: gotta have a listen.. brb ;)

[01:09 PM] teamcanuck: k

[01:09 PM] cynicmuse: ok. I'll go dig it out and count. I hate counting

[01:11 PM] teamcanuck: i counted it while i was driving to school

[01:12 PM] ZeroLux: this on a site anywhere i can read more on?

[01:12 PM] ZeroLux: the wiki or ets?

[01:12 PM] teamcanuck: the wiki

[01:12 PM] SoundlyAsleep: the number is listed on the wiki i think

[01:12 PM] ZeroLux: linkage?

[01:12 PM] aychseven: ninwiki.com

[01:12 PM] teamcanuck: (Link: http://ninwiki.com/Numbers)http://ninwiki.com/Numbers

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[01:14 PM] SoundlyAsleep: i've spent too many hours on this today.. i'm hungry

[01:15 PM] teamcanuck: is anybody on here a Mod or someone who can (finally) activate my ETS account?

[01:15 PM] Hacbarton: Hey guys, the press is starting to notice us: (Link: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/160207webtrail.htm)http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/160207webtrail.htm

[01:15 PM] teamcanuck: ive been waiting a week. its annoying.

[01:15 PM] heroicraptor: teamcanuck, email gregTHEATSYMBOLechoingthesound.net

[01:16 PM] aychseven: hac: thats just a copy/paste of the MTV story from last week

[01:17 PM] Jubb: i'm hungry too, wanna go to commons?

[01:17 PM] cynicmuse: teamcanuck, what are you counting again?

[01:17 PM] heroicraptor: bass beats i think

[01:17 PM] heroicraptor: not counting the chorus

[01:18 PM] SoundlyAsleep: thats one long text dude

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[01:19 PM] heroicraptor: wut?

[01:20 PM] SoundlyAsleep: the link up there ^^

[01:20 PM] chantene: yesterday, my friend finally went to 'our lady of angels" cathedral in LA...and guess what? nada...i figured as much but it was worth a shot

[01:20 PM] heroicraptor: o

[01:21 PM] chantene: #ninwiki

[01:21 PM] chantene: oops

[01:21 PM] chantene: lol

[01:21 PM] Hacbarton: srry, then.

[01:21 PM] chantene: so ya...that "lead" is dead

[01:21 PM] SoundlyAsleep: what was that about?

[01:21 PM] aychseven: oh, i was going to ask about that

[01:21 PM] Hacbarton: Before I leave, I have a question to pose to the group

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[01:22 PM] chantene: the pic of the church of plano is a pic of OLA in los angeles

[01:22 PM] aychseven: well no we know. nothing like having a curiosity satisfied :D

[01:22 PM] chantene: =)

[01:22 PM] SoundlyAsleep: a ok

[01:22 PM] Hacbarton: Has anyone ever heard of an NIN bootleg called "The Unknown Trail"?

[01:22 PM] chantene: nope

[01:22 PM] heroicraptor: Hacbarton, nope

[01:22 PM] heroicraptor: check 9inchnails.com

[01:23 PM] Hacbarton: It has 5 songs. 4 are new songs, and one is just a 15-minute remix on "only" off of WT

[01:23 PM] chantene: ?? new songs?

[01:23 PM] Hacbarton: All I know is that it was released in 2007

[01:23 PM] aychseven: why do bootlegs always have shitty names? can't people just name them "date live at location"?

[01:24 PM] Hacbarton: I'm getting the link, give me a sec

[01:24 PM] Drazhar: lol

[01:24 PM] Hacbarton: its not live. There definitely studio

[01:24 PM] Hacbarton: They're*

[01:24 PM] SoundlyAsleep: omg.. cool

[01:24 PM] Hacbarton: (Link: http://istripatparties.reactornet.net:8096/hdd2/Music/Nine%20Inch%20Nails/Rarities%20And%20Misc/2007%20-%20The%20Unknown%20Trail/)http://istripatparties.reactornet.net:8096/hdd2/Music/Nine%20Inch%20Nails/Rarities%20And%20Misc/2007%20-%20The%20Unknown%20Trail/

[01:25 PM] Hacbarton: If you go to that Parent Directory, it also has a couple of other bootleg collections

[01:25 PM] chantene: sweet

[01:25 PM] Hacbarton: CRC Sessions, which are acoustic

[01:25 PM] Hacbarton: His Woodstock performance

[01:25 PM] Hacbarton: and a 1988 collection

[01:25 PM] SoundlyAsleep: ooh, love acoustic

[01:26 PM] Hacbarton: The downloads are a little slow

[01:26 PM] aychseven: hell, loading the page is slow...

[01:26 PM] SoundlyAsleep: doh.. hasn't loaded yet.. is it because I'm in sweden, or is it slow for everyone?

[01:26 PM] Jubb: slow for me too

[01:26 PM] aychseven: i think we broke it

[01:26 PM] chantene: slow for me too

[01:26 PM] chantene: ya

[01:26 PM] Hacbarton: If you're on wireless and can plug into a wall, I suggest that

[01:26 PM] SoundlyAsleep: hah

[01:26 PM] Hacbarton: Its not broken, it took me sometime as well

[01:26 PM] SoundlyAsleep: I'm wired

[01:26 PM] chantene: 45%...you can do it!

[01:27 PM] SoundlyAsleep: on 100mbit though

[01:27 PM] Hacbarton: How many of you on Firefox?

[01:27 PM] heroicraptor: aye

[01:27 PM] SoundlyAsleep: me

[01:27 PM] Malechite: me

[01:27 PM] aychseven: me

[01:27 PM] heroicraptor: because it kicks the shit out of IE

[01:27 PM] Hacbarton: do you have the extension Downthemall?

[01:27 PM] Drazhar: ie7 ^_^

[01:27 PM] heroicraptor: yes

[01:27 PM] heroicraptor: it = win

[01:27 PM] Malechite: nope

[01:28 PM] Hacbarton: I suggest grabbing that

[01:28 PM] SoundlyAsleep: ...still hasn't loaded..=(

[01:28 PM] Malechite: hahah

[01:28 PM] chantene: same

[01:28 PM] Hacbarton: Its just a download manager that speeds things up

[01:28 PM] Malechite: im like wtf is Down The Mall

[01:28 PM] Malechite: its down them all

[01:28 PM] Malechite: hehe

[01:28 PM] Hacbarton: Down-Them-All

[01:28 PM] SoundlyAsleep: haha

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[01:29 PM] heroicraptor: pwnt

[01:29 PM] TonySt: what the hell does this have to do with the year zero arg.

[01:29 PM] TonySt: move over to #yearzero for offtopic bullshit

[01:29 PM] heroicraptor: idk

[01:29 PM] TonySt: even if there isn't anything to do with stuff on-topic.

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[01:29 PM] Hacbarton: TonySt: Honestly, this bootleg could very well be on topic

[01:29 PM] TonySt: orly.

[01:30 PM] Hacbarton: It comes with a text file that has some really cryptic things

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[01:30 PM] Hacbarton: "A single bread crumb does not make a trai"

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[01:30 PM] KayCee: lol

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[01:30 PM] Malechite: • Thanks for the @ •

[01:30 PM] Hacbarton: loltrail*

[01:30 PM] Hacbarton: trail*

[01:30 PM] TonySt: who's OPALESCENTHAZE?

[01:31 PM] heroicraptor: me am vote kickban

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[01:31 PM] heroicraptor: o.O

[01:32 PM] cynicmuse: I've got no clue what teamcanuck was counting... I can get 24.15 if I count the bass part (the two notes) during the verses... but it never surfaces again... and this year's tax refund will be buying me a new pair of headphones

[01:32 PM] TonySt: heh.

[01:32 PM] aychseven: i'm telling you he is on crack

[01:32 PM] SoundlyAsleep: told you ;)

[01:33 PM] cut: nice forum filter ETS

[01:33 PM] heroicraptor: wut?

[01:33 PM] cynicmuse: anyone match the new blips that showed up on yearzero to a page like someone did with the church of plano site?

[01:33 PM] cut: posting a msg with "42" changes it to "the presence"

[01:33 PM] heroicraptor: lol

[01:33 PM] cut: it freaked me out

[01:34 PM] cynicmuse: that's just one of many great filters

[01:34 PM] cut: posting a list of 64 r,g,b color values for 00000.gif

[01:34 PM] cut: #41, the presence, #43

[01:34 PM] aychseven: why change it?

[01:35 PM] cut: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=826454#826454)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=826454#826454

[01:36 PM] Hacbarton: I'm putting the bootleg online as a zip

[01:36 PM] aychseven: hmm when did the new stuff appear on yearzero site? i checked it last night and there were no changes

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[01:37 PM] SoundlyAsleep: Hacbarton - great

[01:37 PM] Hacbarton: (Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?ein02iw5ddt)http://www.mediafire.com/?ein02iw5ddt

[01:37 PM] Hacbarton: theres the ZIP

[01:37 PM] cut: 00000.gif Last-Modified: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:33:37 GMT

[01:37 PM] Hacbarton: has something changed on the YZ

[01:37 PM] SoundlyAsleep: thanks alot

[01:37 PM] aychseven: yeah

[01:37 PM] cut: 6hrs ago

[01:37 PM] Drazhar: l33t >.>

[01:37 PM] cut: almost exactly right now

[01:37 PM] aychseven: new squares

[01:38 PM] Drazhar: but with extra es

[01:38 PM] Hacbarton: I'll be damned! Something did change!

[01:38 PM] cut: 13:37:59 2007-02-19 GMT-6

[01:38 PM] Hacbarton: the thing next to MVH was on the Plano site

[01:38 PM] Hacbarton: everyone scan the sites for that blip

[01:39 PM] cynicmuse: I did a cursory search, didn't see anything with that nasty shade of salmon, but more people should look

[01:39 PM] Hacbarton: we dont have time for cursing

[01:39 PM] Hacbarton: j/k

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[01:40 PM] cynicmuse: eh, I think that I've got two months of cursing ahead of me

[01:41 PM] cynicmuse: found a couple pieces of a circle

[01:41 PM] Garick|YZ: I want BYIT

[01:41 PM] Garick|YZ: damn it

[01:41 PM] cynicmuse: but no color block

[01:41 PM] Hacbarton: look at track 5, "Me, I'm Not", was that blip always there?

[01:41 PM] Garick|YZ: Ahhhhhhhhhh

[01:41 PM] chantene: no

[01:41 PM] chantene: it's new =)

[01:41 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Anything new other then the yearzero site.

[01:41 PM] Hacbarton: track 6, rather

[01:41 PM] Hacbarton: woohoo

[01:41 PM] Hacbarton: thats my favorite word to type

[01:42 PM] Hacbarton: whats this about a circle?

[01:42 PM] cynicmuse: bottom of (Link: http://www.bethehammer.net/informers.htm)http://www.bethehammer.net/informers.htm

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[01:43 PM] cynicmuse: bottom of anotherversionofthetruth.com/end.htm

[01:43 PM] cynicmuse: bottom of anotherversionofthetruth.com/resist.htm

[01:43 PM] cynicmuse: bottom of anotherversionofthetruth.com/opal.htm

[01:43 PM] cynicmuse: and then the memories page on 105th

[01:43 PM] cynicmuse: though it could just be an artifact of whatever they're using to generate the images

[01:43 PM] Hacbarton: anyone with photoshop that can get on that?

[01:43 PM] Delusional: if the "blip" next to track six is new, is there a pic of the old one up some where?

[01:44 PM] TonySt: the ftp server.

[01:44 PM] cynicmuse: (would have photoshopped it, but xfig is about as good as my graphics skills are)

[01:44 PM] Hacbarton: someone link that ftp server

[01:44 PM] cynicmuse: (Link: http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/)http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/

[01:44 PM] insip: (Link: http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/yearzero.nin.com/0.gif_images_by_GMT_timestamp/0.2007.02.13.21.19.00.gif)http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/yearzero.nin.com/0.gif_images_by_GMT_timestamp/0.2007.02.13.21.19.00.gif - old

[01:45 PM] Delusional: thank you.:)

[01:46 PM] insip: np)

[01:46 PM] Hacbarton: insip: you freaking rock

[01:46 PM] keithg: You guys are onto something?

[01:47 PM] aychseven: new graphics on yz minisite

[01:47 PM] insip: (Link: http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/yearzero.nin.com/0.gif_images_by_GMT_timestamp/)http://www.symphonyofnoise.com/nails/YearZeroRelated/yearzero.nin.com/0.gif_images_by_GMT_timestamp/ all of it)

[01:47 PM] aychseven: new graphics elsewhere

[01:47 PM] insip: ^^

[01:47 PM] Hacbarton: keithg: yearzero.nin.com has chnaged significantly

[01:47 PM] ZeroLux: something change?

[01:47 PM] Hacbarton: theres a new blip by Track6 and a new white blip off to the left

[01:47 PM] heroicraptor: not significantly

[01:47 PM] VaelekWork: I wouldn't call it significantly

[01:47 PM] ZeroLux: ah

[01:47 PM] Hacbarton: anything changing is signficant

[01:48 PM] Hacbarton: This is the most that has happened all weekend

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[01:48 PM] insip: and as i heard new pic on iamtryingtobelieve.com

[01:48 PM] Hacbarton: insiP; where?

[01:48 PM] Hacbarton: what forum?

[01:48 PM] insip: two hands

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[01:49 PM] SmasherOfBytes: O.o

[01:49 PM] xvs: re

[01:49 PM] insip: ky

[01:49 PM] insip: )

[01:49 PM] xvs: :)

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[01:50 PM] Hacbarton: I'm missing these hands

[01:50 PM] SmasherOfBytes: ky? astroglide.

[01:50 PM] aychseven: yeah i no see them

[01:50 PM] xvs: from sky?

[01:51 PM] Hacbarton: do you mean the original two, the ones of the Presence?

[01:51 PM] SmasherOfBytes: hmm... perhaps 00000.gif is the key to the markings on the other pics

[01:51 PM] SmasherOfBytes: bah

[01:51 PM] SmasherOfBytes: that makes no sense

[01:51 PM] SmasherOfBytes: nm

[01:51 PM] cynicmuse: the two hands? iamtryingtobelieve hasn't changed

[01:51 PM] insip: (Link: http://iamtryingtobelieve.com/images/content_02.jpg)http://iamtryingtobelieve.com/images/content_02.jpg

[01:51 PM] xvs: where's the lock for that key?

[01:51 PM] insip: i'n dunno

[01:52 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Thoes arnt new.

[01:52 PM] Hacbarton: srry, insip, thats old

[01:52 PM] cynicmuse: I'm looking at a rip of the site and the site.. they're the same

[01:52 PM] insip: oh ok =)

[01:53 PM] Hacbarton: (Link: http://yearzero.nin.com/img/14.jpg)http://yearzero.nin.com/img/14.jpg

[01:53 PM] Hacbarton: are those dots on TR's screen?

[01:53 PM] insip: xvs a lol on medveda tyda vsobachil gg ya slepoi

[01:53 PM] insip: %)

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[01:53 PM] insip: pacman!

[01:53 PM] insip: :)

[01:54 PM] xvs: ðóðóÆ)

[01:54 PM] xvs: hehe:)

[01:54 PM] aychseven: looks like dials for a vst plugin

[01:54 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: They are dials.

[01:54 PM] Hacbarton: I was thinking of all those dots across the websites

[01:54 PM] SoundlyAsleep: doh.. haha

[01:54 PM] Hacbarton: u guys are probably right

[01:55 PM] xvs: yep. dots.

[01:55 PM] cynicmuse: someone started looking at the dots... posted a .psd file

[01:55 PM] xvs: they MEANS something

[01:55 PM] cynicmuse: in one of the threads

[01:55 PM] Hacbarton: You know that crushing feeling after you find out a lead is really nothing?

[01:55 PM] Hacbarton: Weaker hearts may not make this

[01:55 PM] xvs: ))

[01:56 PM] xvs: impossible is our profession

[01:56 PM] SmasherOfBytes: was there a link on this page before?: (Link: http://www.consolidatedmailsystems.com/citizen_unknown/)http://www.consolidatedmailsystems.com/citizen_unknown/

[01:56 PM] heroicraptor: no

[01:56 PM] Hacbarton: NO

[01:56 PM] SmasherOfBytes: |\| ()

[01:56 PM] SmasherOfBytes: ok

[01:56 PM] SmasherOfBytes: gotcha

[01:56 PM] SmasherOfBytes: no need to scream

[01:56 PM] insip: yessss

[01:56 PM] Hacbarton: and there isn;t a link now

[01:56 PM] SmasherOfBytes: I never said there was

[01:56 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Lol have y guys cheked out (Link: www.OpalescentHaze.com)www.OpalescentHaze.com now.

[01:56 PM] SoundlyAsleep: can it be the same dots as these? check lower left corner post#9 (Link: http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/opal.htm)http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/opal.htm

[01:56 PM] Hacbarton: srry, I'm a little hyped on some Vault

[01:57 PM] aychseven: ah crap i thought that was implying there is a link there now :(

[01:57 PM] SmasherOfBytes: lmfao Mr_Grim_N_Evil

[01:57 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: If u havent u gt to.

[01:57 PM] Hacbarton: there are dots on almost every page

[01:57 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: No iknow its fake but take a look.

[01:57 PM] sleestax: MORE DOTZ!

[01:57 PM] SmasherOfBytes: it admits it's fake now

[01:57 PM] SmasherOfBytes: :p

[01:58 PM] insip: :)))

[01:58 PM] SoundlyAsleep: what was on that page before?

[01:58 PM] xvs: and now.... THE "legendary trent's dots"

[01:58 PM] insip: dots everywhere! #)%$)$% i need parepin

[01:58 PM] xvs: tada!

[01:59 PM] Hacbarton: thats pretty funny

[01:59 PM] chroipahtz: Did anyone find the blip from yearzero.nin.com anywhere else yet?

[01:59 PM] aychseven: nope. looked and didn't see anything

[02:00 PM] chroipahtz: Something tells me it's going to be on deadcop-opal.com or something.

[02:01 PM] Delusional: i don't think deadcop-opal is ever going up now.

[02:03 PM] insip: is there any topic about different colors phrases on bethehammer.net ?

[02:03 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: No other site hav change people have a program that tell them when changes occur.

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[02:03 PM] chroipahtz: insip, probably. nothing ever came of it.

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[02:04 PM] insip: ;(

[02:06 PM] * xvs away for a breakfast

[02:06 PM] insip: lol

[02:07 PM] xvs: nu a huli :)

[02:07 PM] xvs: never eat today since yesterday :)

[02:07 PM] xvs: so it's probably breakfast

[02:07 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: So was (Link: http://opalescenthaze.com/)http://opalescenthaze.com/ done by 42?

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[02:09 PM] TonySt: Mr_Grim_N_Evil, NO.

[02:09 PM] TonySt: it was not done by 42.

[02:10 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Lol fine just asking geeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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[02:14 PM] insip: lol it would be 2 cheap for 42 %)

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[02:25 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Lol i guess im just a dum ass.

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[02:25 PM] TylerDurden: This was an experiment to see whether contextual clues could convince people over technical facts: i.e., how far down the rabbit hole can one fall?

[02:25 PM] TylerDurden: TECHNICALITY - We're not falling down the rabbit hole are we? i mean..i'm climbing down... one foot in front of the other :P

[02:26 PM] heroicraptor: no

[02:26 PM] heroicraptor: we're falling

[02:26 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Free will is such a funny thing.

[02:26 PM] TylerDurden: lol

[02:27 PM] TylerDurden: I havn't let this consume my ENTIRE life, so what if i havn't slept for 3 days... -_-

[02:27 PM] TylerDurden: i used to do that all the time *Shiftyeyes*

[02:27 PM] heroicraptor: /_-

[02:27 PM] heroicraptor: shit

[02:27 PM] TylerDurden: mind you thats when Wow still worked on my comp :(

[02:27 PM] heroicraptor: //_-

[02:27 PM] heroicraptor: lol

[02:27 PM] chantene: lol

[02:30 PM] aychseven: does that tracker monitor all the known websites?

[02:30 PM] aychseven: or just yz minisite

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[02:36 PM] Mount[a]inGirl: ./ns identify 12free4

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[02:37 PM] aychseven: oops

[02:38 PM] aychseven: better change your password ;)

[02:38 PM] MountainGirl: yeah stupid fingers

[02:41 PM] yourexwife: so, fellas.

[02:41 PM] yourexwife: what's new?

[02:42 PM] aychseven: yearzero.nin.com

[02:42 PM] aychseven: graphics by track 6

[02:42 PM] yourexwife: i see.

[02:42 PM] yourexwife: that it?

[02:42 PM] aychseven: so far

[02:42 PM] yourexwife: cool, thanks.

[02:43 PM] Bobo_Minky: maybe something new?

[02:43 PM] * Bobo_Minky asks

[02:43 PM] aychseven: read like 5 lines up

[02:44 PM] Bobo_Minky: doh

[02:44 PM] Bobo_Minky: ta

[02:44 PM] Bobo_Minky: ah damn

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[02:45 PM] Bobo_Minky: didnt see anything until a hard refresh

[02:45 PM] aychseven: ah

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[02:50 PM] `3kiLLLa: is the barcelona show going on right now?

[02:50 PM] yourexwife: yeah.

[02:50 PM] `3kiLLLa: k

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[02:50 PM] Jubb: wish I could be there

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[02:53 PM] `3kiLLLa: Recent additions:

[02:53 PM] `3kiLLLa: - yearzero.nin.com has a couple odd graphics on it. Whoop-de-doo.

[02:53 PM] `3kiLLLa: well put merz

[02:53 PM] `3kiLLLa: shoot down all speculation of the dots

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[02:55 PM] yourexwife: lolzorz

[02:55 PM] aychseven: that speculation has been going on for a while now, no need to add anything more about it considering there is a thread devoted to it

[02:56 PM] `3kiLLLa: i know, i was being sarcastic

[02:56 PM] aychseven: sarcasm doesn't come through well on irc ;) unless ;) you use ;) winks ;) hehe

[02:57 PM] aychseven: or not i dunno

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[02:57 PM] teamcanuck: lol

[02:57 PM] teamcanuck: children

[02:57 PM] teamcanuck: :P

[02:57 PM] `3kiLLLa: if i had to use winky things then what would be the fun?

[02:57 PM] yourexwife: ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[02:57 PM] yourexwife: bitches.

[02:58 PM] teamcanuck: well :) the :O fun :S would x( be ;) pissing :( ppl :P off!

[02:58 PM] aychseven: the fun is getting people used to you using it when you're being sarcastic, so when you're not being sarcastic it looks like you're not really saying terrible hurtful things ;)

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[02:59 PM] `3kiLLLa: but the fun comes when all of you fuckers are making faces at me and i sit and laugh lol :D

[02:59 PM] greenhell: cant stop listening to survivalism. LOVE IT

[03:00 PM] aychseven: yeah the people that say thtf was better need to go suck a bag of dicks

[03:00 PM] yourexwife: i got my penis, got my phlegm, i got survivalism

[03:01 PM] greenhell: its good.....but this is totally the beat

[03:01 PM] Jubb: i'm guessing pretty much everyone else shit their pants when they heard it on the radio friday

[03:01 PM] aychseven: doubt it

[03:01 PM] yourexwife: not me.

[03:01 PM] yourexwife: i was on the toilet.

[03:01 PM] yourexwife: so i shit in the toilet.

[03:01 PM] Jubb: ahh I was in the car, it was a mess lost control almost wrecked

[03:02 PM] `3kiLLLa: when i first heard the shitty version of it i wasnt impressed

[03:02 PM] `3kiLLLa: once i heard the cd qual version i got happy

[03:02 PM] `3kiLLLa: makes me want to break things

[03:02 PM] `3kiLLLa: have swerved in the car

[03:02 PM] `3kiLLLa: hurt hand from beating steering wheel

[03:02 PM] greenhell: i love that he released it @ 329kbs

[03:02 PM] greenhell: 320 sorry

[03:03 PM] aychseven: trents trying to start a riot

[03:03 PM] greenhell: its working

[03:03 PM] Jubb: lets all put on trent masks and storm an important building

[03:03 PM] `3kiLLLa: yea, its somehow got me to do zero homework

[03:03 PM] greenhell: always been on the cutting edge

[03:04 PM] heroicraptor: Jubb, roffle

[03:04 PM] aychseven: i was reading bethehammer and the carver thing got me thinking about a huge datacenter not to far from me with barbed wire and armed guards and shit

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[03:04 PM] aychseven: then i realised i dont want to break my internet

[03:04 PM] greenhell: good thinking

[03:04 PM] `3kiLLLa: hmm actually have a database administration midterm this evening

[03:04 PM] `3kiLLLa: i may be able to come in handy one day

[03:05 PM] greenhell: you think theres movie plans in this too???

[03:05 PM] Jubb: doubt it

[03:05 PM] `3kiLLLa: not quite sure, im really wondering what survivalism video is gonna look like tho

[03:06 PM] Jubb: yeah the videos should be interesting, shouldn't expect a full length film though

[03:06 PM] `3kiLLLa: yea, not with the amount of touring they do

[03:06 PM] `3kiLLLa: wont ever have time to make sexy movies

[03:06 PM] cynicmuse: eh. the radio rip didn't do survivalism justice.... I wouldn't have liked it without hearing the 320kpbs mp3

[03:06 PM] greenhell: screenplays already written it seems

[03:07 PM] `3kiLLLa: i felt same way cynicmuse

[03:07 PM] SoundlyAsleep: what did you think of the thtf-vid when it came?

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[03:08 PM] `3kiLLLa: it was strange to say the least, very simple, not too exciting

[03:08 PM] greenhell: agreed

[03:08 PM] `3kiLLLa: it looked like a bad home video

[03:08 PM] greenhell: just seemed like filler.....fluff

[03:08 PM] `3kiLLLa: yes, like the label forced them to make a video

[03:09 PM] SoundlyAsleep: yeah.. but it's good that they didn't take it too far.. keep it simple or do something huge

[03:09 PM] greenhell: not very unique

[03:09 PM] SoundlyAsleep: like march of the pigs... just love that vid

[03:09 PM] cynicmuse: both of those videos are second versions after the first one was rejected

[03:09 PM] cynicmuse: though the footage on closure demonstrates why the first motp was rejected

[03:10 PM] SoundlyAsleep: yeah.. ive seen the first version of motp, but i like the "new" version better

[03:10 PM] `3kiLLLa: i didnt see the first one

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[03:10 PM] heroicraptor: `3kiLLa, it's fucked up

[03:10 PM] aychseven: xvs: liquid lunch?

[03:10 PM] SoundlyAsleep: is there any footage of thtf-vid.. original?

[03:10 PM] xvs-drunk: like that, yep:)

[03:10 PM] insip: :))

[03:11 PM] heroicraptor: SoundlyAsleep, no

[03:11 PM] xvs-drunk: i drink vodka. so should you.

[03:11 PM] xvs-drunk: ;)

[03:11 PM] `3kiLLLa: hmmm is there a version of it floating around anywhere?

[03:11 PM] SoundlyAsleep: motp?

[03:11 PM] `3kiLLLa: yes

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[03:11 PM] heroicraptor: youtube

[03:11 PM] insip: vodka without handy bear - nothing)

[03:12 PM] dariassw: guys, take a look at this please : (Link: http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8236)http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8236

[03:12 PM] SoundlyAsleep: i'm looking for it @ utube

[03:12 PM] dariassw: there's more in the archive section

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[03:13 PM] SoundlyAsleep: OMG

[03:13 PM] Hacbarton: how weird

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[03:13 PM] `3kiLLLa: omg what?

[03:13 PM] dariassw: can someone could try to call the number ?

[03:13 PM] insip: wow

[03:13 PM] greenhell: wtf

[03:14 PM] dariassw: n

[03:14 PM] SoundlyAsleep: I'm gonna cry

[03:14 PM] SoundlyAsleep: give me

[03:14 PM] dariassw: i'm in france so...

[03:14 PM] Hacbarton: weve had that number for some time, havent we?

[03:14 PM] SoundlyAsleep: Im in sweden

[03:14 PM] aychseven: yeah

[03:14 PM] SoundlyAsleep: we have?

[03:14 PM] yourexwife: who is soundlyasleep?

[03:14 PM] dariassw: really ?

[03:14 PM] aychseven: do you guys not pay any attention?

[03:14 PM] Hacbarton: thats the number from the tour shirt

[03:14 PM] `3kiLLLa: why is soundlyasleep omg'ing

[03:14 PM] SoundlyAsleep: Im new... to the channel at least

[03:14 PM] yourexwife: you must be new to the ninternet as well. :P

[03:14 PM] aychseven: this has nothing to do with the channel

[03:14 PM] SoundlyAsleep: about the blog

[03:15 PM] greenhell: yeah thats the number f

[03:15 PM] Hacbarton: Go to this link: (Link: http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8236)http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8236

[03:15 PM] aychseven: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20265&sid=9990f72fbb595421dc2234d0de1b76ff)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20265&sid=9990f72fbb595421dc2234d0de1b76ff

[03:15 PM] aychseven: read that shti

[03:15 PM] aychseven: shit*

[03:15 PM] aychseven: at least the first page.

[03:15 PM] Jubb: wtf how'd this guy get those tracks

[03:15 PM] `3kiLLLa: radio promos?

[03:15 PM] yourexwife: i wants me, i'm not.

[03:15 PM] yourexwife: like.

[03:15 PM] yourexwife: now.

[03:15 PM] SoundlyAsleep: Ive red that shit... a bunch of times

[03:15 PM] Jubb: Why aren't they leaked yet?! haha

[03:15 PM] aychseven: well you're blind if you didn't see the phone #

[03:16 PM] `3kiLLLa: i have a hunch me, i'm not comes very soon

[03:16 PM] Hacbarton: it says Trent sometimes posts as Tietan

[03:16 PM] `3kiLLLa: just a small hunch

[03:16 PM] greenhell: the good soldier hasnt leaked has it??

[03:16 PM] xvs-drunk: <TR>

[03:16 PM] dariassw: okay, it's the phone number found on the t shirt

[03:16 PM] xvs-drunk: <TDA>

[03:16 PM] dariassw: sorry guys

[03:16 PM] xvs-drunk: <TDS>

[03:16 PM] xvs-drunk: :)

[03:16 PM] yourexwife: HAY GUYS OPALESCENTHAZE.COM TURND OUT 2 B FAKE LOOK AT DA SITE

[03:16 PM] yourexwife: AHAHAHA I TOLD U

[03:16 PM] yourexwife: NOOZBZ

[03:17 PM] `3kiLLLa: merz, its pebkacs site

[03:17 PM] SoundlyAsleep: yeah ok, i get it... didn't pay attention to the number cause it sait it was a usa-number... and i cant call those from here so i didnt care

[03:17 PM] `3kiLLLa: he admitted that shit earlier and changed it lol

[03:17 PM] xvs-drunk: :)))))

[03:17 PM] SoundlyAsleep: old news

[03:18 PM] Hacbarton: If some random Dj has the tracks, I bet there's a way to get them elsewhere

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[03:18 PM] Hacbarton: the YZ page changed, and there was a blip next to the song "Me, I'm Not"

[03:19 PM] greenhell: (Link: http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8293)http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8293 sheck this

[03:19 PM] greenhell: check

[03:19 PM] SoundlyAsleep: you mean they will leak?

[03:19 PM] insip: "Dammit! Why don't you call me? The number is: (310) 295-1040!"

[03:19 PM] insip: CALLL FFS XD

[03:20 PM] Jubb: trent's lonely D:

[03:20 PM] SoundlyAsleep: i bet

[03:20 PM] greenhell: is he changing the messages that are played at the phone number??

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[03:20 PM] Jubb: no I just called last night it's the same

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[03:20 PM] Jubb: but he very well could

[03:21 PM] SoundlyAsleep: but the blog is posted today..?

[03:21 PM] greenhell: then why are they still pushin the phone#

[03:21 PM] Jubb: they want more people to call?

[03:21 PM] Jubb: lol

[03:21 PM] SoundlyAsleep: is the call expensive or what?

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[03:21 PM] Jubb: it's a cali number

[03:22 PM] insip: lol it would be funny

[03:22 PM] insip: if the cost of call = cost of album

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[03:22 PM] SoundlyAsleep: whats a cali number?

[03:22 PM] vVdravenVv: so whats been going on the past several hours?

[03:22 PM] Hacbarton: The area code is in Los Angeles

[03:22 PM] workingclasshero: california\

[03:22 PM] Jubb: maybe all the people who call it get called back by trent and we all become butt buddies with him and hang out all the time an you know just chill like bros and chill with him

[03:23 PM] Jubb: maybe play some gamecube

[03:23 PM] workingclasshero: nothing much draven

[03:23 PM] Hacbarton: Here's instruction as to what to do

[03:23 PM] Hacbarton: call the number

[03:23 PM] SoundlyAsleep: haha

[03:23 PM] Hacbarton: press * at any time

[03:23 PM] Hacbarton: enter 2552

[03:23 PM] Hacbarton: press #

[03:23 PM] Hacbarton: It will prompt for a message...leave what you want

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[03:24 PM] Jubb: whaat

[03:24 PM] yourexwife: i love the #yearzero channel.

[03:24 PM] SoundlyAsleep: how did you find out?

[03:24 PM] Hacbarton: workingclassheroe actually found it two nights ago

[03:24 PM] greenhell: 2552?

[03:24 PM] workingclasshero: this is what we do here soundly

[03:24 PM] Jubb: wow

[03:24 PM] workingclasshero: brainstorm

[03:25 PM] SoundlyAsleep: ;) Im impressd

[03:25 PM] Hacbarton: workingclasshero: it finally worked for me last night

[03:25 PM] workingclasshero: good deal that is excellent

[03:25 PM] greenhell: 2552?

[03:25 PM] chantene: i pressed 0 and it worked too

[03:25 PM] xvs-drunk: redrover works

[03:25 PM] workingclasshero: now if we could just figure out the access codes

[03:25 PM] Hacbarton: I told him my name, number, and said the album sounds amazing

[03:26 PM] workingclasshero: 0 took you to the message ?

[03:26 PM] Jubb: 2552 gave me invalid mailbox number just now

[03:26 PM] Hacbarton: 0?

[03:26 PM] greenhell: me too

[03:26 PM] workingclasshero: chantene did hitting 0 get you to the point you could leave a message?

[03:27 PM] aychseven: 2278 worked for a while iirc

[03:27 PM] chantene: yeah it did

[03:27 PM] Hacbarton: I think it changes periodically

[03:27 PM] insip: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=826074#826074)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=826074#826074

[03:27 PM] SoundlyAsleep: 2552 sounds kinda random... if that works, anything could work it sounds to me. where did the 2552 come from to start with?

[03:27 PM] insip: is it?

[03:27 PM] Jubb: I just tried 2552 and 0 and just got disconnected

[03:27 PM] cut: its the number right after 2551!

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[03:28 PM] BYTE-Smasher: LMFAO: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=826489#826489)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=826489#826489

[03:28 PM] chantene: lol

[03:28 PM] ledge: what's up meatbags

[03:28 PM] ledge: anything new?

[03:28 PM] xvs-drunk: nah

[03:28 PM] xvs-drunk: blips and flips

[03:28 PM] greenhell: (Link: http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8293)http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8293

[03:28 PM] workingclasshero: bruce willis lol

[03:28 PM] xvs-drunk: yz.nin.com

[03:28 PM] ledge: crud

[03:29 PM] Hacbarton: I made the H2G2 connection when we first started

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[03:29 PM] Hacbarton: how do we connect 42 to the Presence?

[03:29 PM] xvs-drunk: lol @ gif deconstruct

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[03:29 PM] aychseven: whats so funny about bruce willis? he is the angry sniper you know ;)

[03:29 PM] workingclasshero: maybe old images 42 has used in past games?

[03:30 PM] xvs-drunk: its time to start some c++ projects

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[03:31 PM] cut: i cant wait until someone photoshops a flying chicken with a cape on the new 00000.gif technicolor spetacular

[03:31 PM] transient_foible: dont give anyone ideas

[03:31 PM] transient_foible: lol

[03:31 PM] ledge: The Presence on Leno tonight...

[03:31 PM] workingclasshero: lmao

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[03:32 PM] Hacbarton: what 00000.gif technicolor spectacular?

[03:33 PM] cut: score!

[03:33 PM] SoundlyAsleep: Im glad that im not an american.. I like music better when its not that popular. like nin in sweden

[03:33 PM] cut: i got someone else to say technicolor spetacular

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[03:33 PM] SoundlyAsleep: not this marketing hype anyway

[03:33 PM] cut: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=826563#826563)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=826563#826563

[03:33 PM] Hacbarton: SoundlyAsleep: I wouldn't quite call this a marketing hype

[03:33 PM] cut: brbcig

[03:33 PM] Hacbarton: There are two classes of NIN fans

[03:34 PM] SoundlyAsleep: the leno bit i mean.. its getting some media time, right?

[03:34 PM] Hacbarton: People who consider it a grand artistic statement about emotion and self-image, who realize the genius in the detail and perfection of the music

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[03:35 PM] Hacbarton: And then there are thoe who still laugh at 'Closer"

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[03:35 PM] Hacbarton: those*

[03:35 PM] Jubb: well these days there's a whole group of nin "fans" that only really know with teeth

[03:36 PM] Hacbarton: "Yeah, bite the hand that feeds, yeah!"

[03:36 PM] Hacbarton: The Top 40 group is.....annoying

[03:36 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: My first real cd was with phm.

[03:36 PM] Hacbarton: Honestly, I picked my firs CD by NIN just 4 years ago (it was PHM)

[03:36 PM] ledge: SoundlyAsleep: the leno thing was a joke

[03:37 PM] Hacbarton: I went to a boarding school that disallowed any Parental Advisory Cd's

[03:37 PM] yourexwife: aw, so you didn't hear limp bizkit first?

[03:37 PM] yourexwife: i'm sorry.

[03:37 PM] Hacbarton: I obtained NIN's entire catalog within 6 months after that

[03:37 PM] chantene: my first nin cd was phm like, 8 yrs ago

[03:37 PM] SoundlyAsleep: okey, im not the one to judge anyway :)

[03:37 PM] Smellbow: my aunt got my PHM for christmas loonnnggg ago. id never heard of NIN but from then i was hooked :p

[03:38 PM] ledge: the fact is, a lot of groups get very popular for a very simple reason: they don't suck

[03:38 PM] chantene: but i'd loved nin before that...through radio play. i was like, 12...so i guess it wasn't appropriate to own the cd before that?? fucking parents

[03:39 PM] Hacbarton: I have trouble explaining to friends that people don't sell out when they become popular

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[03:39 PM] chantene: yeah.

[03:39 PM] SoundlyAsleep: the first contact I ever had with nin was the vid for motp

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[03:39 PM] ledge: it baffles me when people decide to stop listening to good music simply because they get popular. as long as that's not the ONLY reason you're listening, what's the problem.

[03:39 PM] chantene: i know!

[03:39 PM] Hacbarton: People enjoy there little worlds

[03:39 PM] xvs-drunk: motp - man on the prowl? :>

[03:40 PM] Hacbarton: When they like a band that a few other people like, it makes them feel special

[03:40 PM] Smellbow: i work in a record store and have for 5 years, i see all these bands come and go

[03:40 PM] h6a6t6e: maldives only tropical port

[03:40 PM] SoundlyAsleep: march of the hams dude

[03:40 PM] Smellbow: all the "scene kids" lapping up whatevers new

[03:40 PM] Smellbow: dumping what was out the week before

[03:40 PM] chantene: i am sooooo scene, guyzz

[03:41 PM] ledge: I like where trent has gotten himself. like his comment on upcomng YZ: "It's my job to make the music, it's the label's job to try to sell it." Lets him do stuff like all this crazy website stuff.

[03:41 PM] h6a6t6e: I like your sense of self importance

[03:41 PM] Hacbarton: SPIN magazine does a "Band Of The Day" feature online

[03:41 PM] h6a6t6e: It goes well with your job at a record store

[03:41 PM] Smellbow: :P

[03:41 PM] Hacbarton: Band of the day is pretty insignificant to us

[03:42 PM] Hacbarton: But imagine how much that means to the band?

[03:42 PM] SoundlyAsleep: i would like to se my band there... or not actually... would be pretty scary

[03:42 PM] Hacbarton: OK, we drifted a bit

[03:42 PM] Smellbow: merely making an observation of current trends from my point of view, not saying i have some super opinion that cannot be questioned

[03:42 PM] SoundlyAsleep: hehe

[03:42 PM] ledge: I figured "President's Day" would see something new developments... I guess not. nuts.

[03:42 PM] BYTE-Smasher: the angry sniper almost sounds like bruce willis... but not completely

[03:43 PM] Hacbarton: ledge: I don't think anything new will develop outside of business days

[03:43 PM] Smellbow: a new die hard clip :P

[03:43 PM] Jubb: guys the angry sniper is mark wahlburg, aint you seen teh previews for that movie The Shootah?

[03:43 PM] Hacbarton: Why the hell have I heard some many references to Bruce Willis?

[03:43 PM] ledge: Hacbarton: because some people think AS sounds like Bruce Willis

[03:43 PM] heroicraptor: because he's a bamf

[03:44 PM] chantene: so true.

[03:44 PM] Hacbarton: The Angry Sniper is a poor voice actor they paid

[03:44 PM] Hacbarton: not known. Just my theory

[03:44 PM] chantene: named bruce willis

[03:44 PM] workingclasshero: ol

[03:44 PM] h6a6t6e: He does a pretty good job though.

[03:44 PM] Hacbarton: lol

[03:44 PM] h6a6t6e: imho

[03:44 PM] h6a6t6e: The columbian woman sucks though

[03:45 PM] BYTE-Smasher: no... there's a timbre to his voice that just doesn't sound like bruce

[03:45 PM] chantene: lol. i know. i don't think it's brucey

[03:45 PM] ledge: they should have got Gilbert Gottfried to do AS

[03:45 PM] chantene: LOL

[03:45 PM] h6a6t6e: hehe

[03:45 PM] chantene: i don't mind the colombian woman...she's ok

[03:45 PM] h6a6t6e: Pauly Shore would also be a fine choice

[03:46 PM] BYTE-Smasher: or rosie o'donnell

[03:46 PM] SoundlyAsleep: how about leno?

[03:46 PM] chantene: bob barker

[03:46 PM] Jubb: come on obvious choice is Morgan Freeman

[03:46 PM] ledge: "This is a fucking bomb, buuuuuuuday!"

[03:46 PM] h6a6t6e: He did march of the pengiuns after all

[03:46 PM] SoundlyAsleep: gordon freeman?

[03:46 PM] h6a6t6e: I see the tie in

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[03:46 PM] Jubb: angry sniper = master chief

[03:46 PM] Smellbow: gordon frohman....

[03:46 PM] h6a6t6e: Speaking of gordon freeman, when's episode 2 out?

[03:46 PM] BYTE-Smasher: actually, the obvious choice is the guy that played the sniper in death to smoochie

[03:47 PM] chantene: peace out

[03:47 PM] BYTE-Smasher: his voice kicks ass

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[03:47 PM] h6a6t6e: xvs do you ever sleep?

[03:47 PM] h6a6t6e: It must be nearly 1am

[03:48 PM] Hacbarton: (Link: http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8240)http://www.edge.ca/station/blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?bid=8240

[03:48 PM] Hacbarton: This is a different post

[03:48 PM] Hacbarton: He mentions another site

[03:49 PM] Hacbarton: HAARP.net

[03:49 PM] Hacbarton: wont work in Firefox

[03:49 PM] Hacbarton: It is VERY unrelated

[03:49 PM] xvs-drunk: h6a6t6e errr.. on keyboard. why?

[03:50 PM] xvs-drunk: 0.47

[03:50 PM] heroicraptor: it's sad how the RIAA has power over Canada

[03:50 PM] Smellbow: episode 2 still says Q2-2007. no date bleh

[03:50 PM] BYTE-Smasher: it works in firefox

[03:51 PM] *** Mode change "+b opalescenthaze!*@*" for channel #iamtryingtobelieve by heroicraptor.

[03:51 PM] BYTE-Smasher: just gotta add the h to the url :p

[03:51 PM] ledge: oh god.... HAARP weirdos

[03:51 PM] ledge: yeah, that's not totally nutso conspiracy theory insanity

[03:51 PM] ledge: "a secret weapon designed to boil the upper atmosphere"

[03:52 PM] BYTE-Smasher: lmfao

[03:52 PM] BYTE-Smasher: hahaha: "Hi, it's Trent. Call me: (310) 295-1040."

[03:52 PM] Jubb: you think this radio site has connections with the people running the arg?

[03:52 PM] Hacbarton: Hey, April 17 is also Maynard of Tool and APC birthday

[03:52 PM] Hacbarton: Alan Cross

[03:53 PM] Jubb: I mean, I thought it was kinda weird he wrote out "However, come April 17, "Year Zero" will arrive 1 year, 11 months and 15 days after "With Teeth." Compare that to the 5 years, 7 months and 13 days that separated "The Fragile" from "With Teeth." Just 62 more sleeps..."

[03:53 PM] Jubb: why get into that much detail about the numbers?

[03:53 PM] xvs-drunk: 62 more sleeps

[03:53 PM] xvs-drunk: hm

[03:53 PM] xvs-drunk: good count

[03:53 PM] xvs-drunk: wish i have them all

[03:53 PM] Hacbarton: Alan Cross seems very connected. He's heard half the damn album

[03:54 PM] Jubb: what were the numbers of those pictures again on the stie

[03:54 PM] Jubb: **site

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[03:55 PM] h6a6t6e: it's a secret jubb

[03:56 PM] Hacbarton: Alright folks, I got other business to attend to. Good luck, and see you tomorrow.

[03:56 PM] xvs-drunk: secret who?

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[03:57 PM] h6a6t6e: secret williams

[03:57 PM] h6a6t6e: son of colonel williams

[03:59 PM] xvs-drunk: ah

[03:59 PM] xvs-drunk: bruce willis..

[04:00 PM] h6a6t6e: you cracked the code

[04:00 PM] h6a6t6e: how much spirits did you need?

[04:00 PM] insip: =)

[04:00 PM] xvs-drunk: spirits? 2 liters

[04:00 PM] BYTE-Smasher: it's not bruce willis... it's actually will bruceus

[04:00 PM] xvs-drunk: brusex

[04:00 PM] h6a6t6e: space cam

[04:01 PM] h6a6t6e: p

[04:01 PM] xvs-drunk: space cum :P ? ;)

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[04:02 PM] TylerDurden: OMFG WHATS NEW?

[04:02 PM] TylerDurden: lol

[04:02 PM] xvs-drunk: OMGOMGNUTTIN

[04:02 PM] h6a6t6e: there's a new website

[04:02 PM] h6a6t6e: (Link: www.crackinbacon.net)www.crackinbacon.net

[04:02 PM] TylerDurden: * Topic is 'Welcome to #iamtryingtobelieve | OFF TOPIC BULLSHIT = BOOT | Year Zero stuff ONLY | Maybe something new. Ask.'*******

[04:02 PM] xvs-drunk: yes. (Link: www.nin.com)www.nin.com

[04:02 PM] h6a6t6e: we think it's mallory's

[04:02 PM] TylerDurden: Dang Mallory

[04:03 PM] BYTE-Smasher: 00000.gif and 0.gif had mad monkey secks and trent reznor phoned al gore to tell him that jesus camp was scary

[04:03 PM] xvs-drunk: bang mallory

[04:03 PM] h6a6t6e: was mallory beautiful?

[04:03 PM] xvs-drunk: got a nude pic???

[04:04 PM] ledge: I have a site with a pic of mallory nude in a bathtub doing something gross...

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[04:04 PM] BYTE-Smasher: there's no UFOs in barcelona

[04:04 PM] BYTE-Smasher: :p

[04:04 PM] BYTE-Smasher: just really big dildoes: (Link: http://www.nin.com/today.jpg)http://www.nin.com/today.jpg

[04:05 PM] xvs-drunk: )))))

[04:05 PM] ledge: nothing new, smell you meatbags later

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[04:19 PM] Smellbow: anyone here going to the show in manchester on sunday? by any chance :P

[04:21 PM] VaelekWork: if it wasn't for the damn ocean... I'd be there

[04:21 PM] Smellbow: ah i c

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[04:23 PM] `3kiLLLa: yea u tell em

[04:24 PM] workingclasshero: interesting thoughts on the 105th and trent possible resentment from Katrina (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20404&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20404&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

[04:27 PM] cynicmuse: I seriously doubt that's why it's the 105th

[04:27 PM] TylerDurden: I like Hippygeeks head :D

[04:27 PM] cynicmuse: that was probably just a number

[04:30 PM] yourexwife: (Link: http://www.edge.ca/station//blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm)http://www.edge.ca/station//blog_ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm

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[04:35 PM] Marienkind: nothing so far?

[04:41 PM] xvs-drunk: no

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[04:41 PM] `3kiLLLa: god damnit, shows over and i have a midterm in 30 minutes

[04:42 PM] `3kiLLLa: so if something happens ill be all late on it :\

[04:42 PM] Marienkind: It be nice it the game was already over, like, thats all they were commisioned for.

[04:44 PM] cut: i couldn't wait any longer (Link: http://resync.net/~cut/0/00000-cluck.jpg)http://resync.net/~cut/0/00000-cluck.jpg

[04:45 PM] `3kiLLLa: fuck it all comes into perspective now

[04:45 PM] workingclasshero: of course it was the chicken (presence)

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[04:47 PM] xvs-drunk: meathead's?

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[04:57 PM] yourexwife: HEY NOTICE TO EVERYONE

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[04:57 PM] yourexwife: IF YOU WANT TO GET KICKED, BERATED, AND CALLED A NOOB OVER AND OVER AGAIN

[04:57 PM] KayCee: WHAT

[04:57 PM] yourexwife: JOIN #YEARZERO

[04:57 PM] KayCee: FUCK YEAH

[04:57 PM] yourexwife: IT'S FUN AS FUCKING HELL

[04:57 PM] *** playwithfire is now known as playwithfire_.

[04:57 PM] playwithfire_: :D

[04:58 PM] xvs-drunk: :)

[04:58 PM] playwithfire_: I WANT THE POWER.

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[04:58 PM] *** Mode change "+o playwithfire_" for channel #iamtryingtobelieve by yourexwife.

[04:58 PM] playwithfire_: :D

[04:59 PM] yourexwife: :D

[04:59 PM] yourexwife: i loves me some lydia!

[04:59 PM] playwithfire_: <3

[04:59 PM] playwithfire_: Yeah!

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[08:16 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve: VaelekWork ZenHarbinger Fibus BYTE-Smasher Psil0cybe insip mranachronism scummy-sleep chippy Mr_Grim_N_Evil Overand pae xvs-sleep Vaelek_ aeryxz cut lowazzgolf nympholept +casualty Starblade|Work psicom VinzClortho P-Frank Nitret Nyarlathotep jerx hokkaido aaronr|sleep Keymaster MountainGirl remixxer iseewhyyouleft s3phiroth billnye Malechite tp123 chroipahtz2 sleepingraptor @yourexisaway digshake Insomniak` @playwithfire_ Bobo_Minky

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[08:16 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve was created on Thu Feb 15 13:12:15 2007.

[08:19 AM] s3phiroth: Psil0cybe: that's the fun of it !

[08:19 AM] s3phiroth: Psil0cybe: why do you think two drives with my violent heart were found ?

[08:19 AM] s3phiroth: when they leaked the second drive, there was probably no news in the net about the first one

[08:19 AM] s3phiroth: so they leaked a second

[08:20 AM] Nitret: i think that there was still a significant risk that no one would've noticed the first drive

[08:20 AM] s3phiroth: if the drive hadn't been found last night, they would probably leak another one

[08:20 AM] s3phiroth: Nitret: there's always a risk

[08:20 AM] s3phiroth: and like i said, that's the fun of it

[08:20 AM] mranachronism: true

[08:20 AM] Nitret: i believe that they make sure they leak

[08:21 AM] pravus: the real question is how many drives have yet to be found?

[08:21 AM] s3phiroth: and the "blocks" on the songs on yearzero.nin.com are consistent with the days the drives appeared

[08:21 AM] s3phiroth: so, so far, so good

[08:21 AM] mranachronism: that'd be funny if somebody "in the know" saw someone pick it up and starting saying "man you know what to do with that don't you?"

[08:21 AM] cynicmuse: I'm waiting for one to show up on ebay

[08:21 AM] mranachronism: ooo

[08:22 AM] cynicmuse: some asshole will do it

[08:22 AM] mranachronism: without them uploading it first

[08:22 AM] mranachronism: i'd be mad

[08:24 AM] s3phiroth: mranachronism: like i said, if that happens, they'll leak another one

[08:24 AM] mranachronism: ya surely

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[08:31 AM] chippy: (Link: http://thinkarg.googlepages.com/yearzeroreformatter)http://thinkarg.googlepages.com/yearzeroreformatter << a bookmarklet for viewing the pages easier

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[08:54 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Doent seem to want to work fo rm :(

[08:56 AM] mranachronism: grim why can't you spell?

[08:57 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Lol fine i wont ever type agian:P.

[09:01 AM] mranachronism: ha

[09:03 AM] s3phiroth: LOL

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[09:04 AM] BYTE-Smasher: (Link: http://zeridine.com/)http://zeridine.com/ !!!!!!

[09:04 AM] BYTE-Smasher: though it just seems to route to the other site :(

[09:05 AM] mranachronism: ya

[09:05 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I think the word zeridine might be of some significance

[09:05 AM] BYTE-Smasher: it's an odd word

[09:05 AM] mranachronism: look at page source?

[09:06 AM] cynicmuse: it's the generic name for parepin

[09:06 AM] mranachronism: ya

[09:06 AM] mranachronism: just checkin to see if any differences

[09:08 AM] mranachronism: i don't see any

[09:14 AM] Nitret: has anyone mailed something to this address: water@iamtryingtobelieve.com ?

[09:14 AM] criarde: yup

[09:14 AM] Nitret: any reply?

[09:14 AM] yourexwife: yeah, ages ago.

[09:14 AM] criarde: try it

[09:14 AM] Nitret: k

[09:14 AM] yourexwife: it's quite creepy.

[09:15 AM] Nitret: heheh

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[09:51 AM] Bobo_Minky: lmao i read heroic-raptor as hero-craptor

[09:51 AM] * heroicraptor slaps Bobo_Minky with a chainsaw

[09:52 AM] Bobo_Minky: sorry

[09:52 AM] Bobo_Minky: it ont happen again

[09:52 AM] Bobo_Minky: ont=wont

[09:53 AM] *** heroicraptor has changed the topic on channel #iamtryingtobelieve to Welcome to #iamtryingtobelieve, your source for ARG discussion, interpretation, and other related things! Help us figure out the conspiracy! | ALL CONVERSATION MUST REMAIN ON-TOPIC. If you don't follow these rules, an operator WILL boot you. Keep off-topic bullshit in #yearzero. Refusing to follow these rules will result in a ban. | NEWS: "ME, I'M NOT" HAS LEAKED! DON'T ASK FOR IT HERE, GO TO ETS, YOU NOOBS!.

[09:54 AM] Masamune: anyone else noticed yet that (Link: http://www.uswiretap.com/71839j/images/police_05.jpg)http://www.uswiretap.com/71839j/images/police_05.jpg the part at the very bottom seems like crying eyes? (orange tears anyone?)

[09:54 AM] yourexwife: yeah, it's text from the novel 'slaughterhouse-five.'

[09:55 AM] Masamune: Yeah I know, but the image itself looks like a set of crying eyes to me

[09:56 AM] pae: btw, the background images on be the hammer reminded me on doom

[09:56 AM] pae: *of doom

[09:56 AM] pae: nad the different images seemed like a puzzle

[09:56 AM] criarde: and some of the parts repeat

[09:57 AM] Bobo_Minky: ok, i dont see crying eyes

[09:57 AM] Bobo_Minky: but then again my imagination sucks donkey dick

[09:57 AM] yourexwife: i know a guy that sucks donkey dick.

[09:57 AM] yourexwife: you'll find him in #yearzero, his name's canted_angle.

[09:58 AM] mranachronism: ha

[09:59 AM] Bobo_Minky: great. him and my imagination can hang out together

[09:59 AM] heroicraptor: o.O

[10:00 AM] mranachronism: gross

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[10:10 AM] Drazhar: has anyone pointed out that the tracks with blocks by them on 0.gif are the ones that are being released?

[10:11 AM] yourexwife: yup yup.

[10:11 AM] BYTE-Smasher: yes

[10:11 AM] Drazhar: ok ^_^

[10:11 AM] BYTE-Smasher: it was predicted a day before the last leak

[10:11 AM] Drazhar: ahh

[10:11 AM] BYTE-Smasher: one of the only times we've been ahead of the game so far, actually

[10:11 AM] BYTE-Smasher: :)

[10:12 AM] BYTE-Smasher: so next time, we will know what track's gonna be leaked

[10:12 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I wonder if interscope knows about the leaks... or if they care

[10:12 AM] BYTE-Smasher: lol

[10:12 AM] Drazhar: i would hope so

[10:12 AM] Drazhar: of course, at this rate there will be no album to release >.>

[10:13 AM] BYTE-Smasher: well artists have been known to fuck their labels before

[10:13 AM] Bobo_Minky: yeah

[10:13 AM] Bobo_Minky: alec empire anyone

[10:13 AM] Bobo_Minky: he fucked his label big time

[10:13 AM] BYTE-Smasher: beck, actually, apparently leaked the tracks on his latest album one my one on p2p networks

[10:19 AM] xvs: yum yum

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[10:36 AM] tootall: so what is all this a game

[10:36 AM] BYTE-Smasher: no it is a reality :o

[10:37 AM] * heroicraptor smacks tootall with a trout

[10:37 AM] tootall: thanx

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[10:45 AM] *** Initial topic: Welcome to #iamtryingtobelieve, your source for ARG discussion, interpretation, and other related things! Help us figure out the conspiracy! | ALL CONVERSATION MUST REMAIN ON-TOPIC. If you don't follow these rules, an operator WILL boot you. Keep off-topic bullshit in #yearzero. Refusing to follow these rules will result in a ban. | NEWS: "ME, I'M NOT" HAS LEAKED! DON'T ASK FOR IT HERE, GO TO ETS, YOU NOOBS!

[10:45 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve: VaelekWork ravadox tootall mranachronism torrefaction_ Delusional BYTE-Smasher Masamune xvs @yourexwife criarde ZenHarbinger Fibus Psil0cybe insip scummy-sleep chippy Mr_Grim_N_Evil Overand pae Vaelek_ aeryxz cut lowazzgolf nympholept +casualty Starblade|Work psicom VinzClortho P-Frank Nitret Nyarlathotep jerx hokkaido aaronr Keymaster MountainGirl remixxer iseewhyyouleft s3phiroth billnye Malechite tp123 chroipahtz2 @heroicraptor

[10:45 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve: digshake Insomniak` @playwithfire_ Bobo_Minky ZeroLux scorpionz Drazhar torrefaction `3kiLLa c0 cynicmuse pravus rue dona +LordMael

[10:45 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve was created on Thu Feb 15 13:12:15 2007.

[10:47 AM] Insomniak`: this is mostly a ETS channel i take it?

[10:47 AM] heroicraptor: mostly

[10:47 AM] xvs: mostly i am trying to believe channel

[10:48 AM] Insomniak`: heh i'm a BSF member myself

[10:48 AM] heroicraptor: Keep off-topic bullshit in #yearzero.

[10:48 AM] Insomniak`: k

[10:48 AM] Insomniak`: same network

[10:48 AM] insip: xvs 4e-nitb novoe nashli?

[10:48 AM] Insomniak`: ?

[10:48 AM] heroicraptor: yes

[10:48 AM] xvs: ne

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[10:50 AM] insip: yasn

[10:50 AM] Insomniak`: on-topic question:

[10:51 AM] heroicraptor: wut?

[10:51 AM] Insomniak`: any correlation between the high frequency sounds in Me, I'm Not, and the presence spectrogram

[10:51 AM] heroicraptor: dunno

[10:51 AM] heroicraptor: check it out

[10:52 AM] Insomniak`: my spectrogrqam program doesn't do the MVH one properly

[10:52 AM] ZeroLux: what do you use?

[10:52 AM] Insomniak`: hontograph for itunes

[10:52 AM] ZeroLux: ah

[10:52 AM] ZeroLux: using a mac or a pc?

[10:52 AM] Insomniak`: mac

[10:52 AM] ZeroLux: k

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[10:57 AM] `3kiLLa: ill spec it

[10:57 AM] `3kiLLa: even tho im sure its been done

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[10:59 AM] `3kiLLa: nothin

[11:00 AM] Insomniak`: but there's alot of high freq stuff nonetheless

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[11:03 AM] BYTE-Smasher: try spectogram 14

[11:03 AM] BYTE-Smasher: that's the one the phone number was found with

[11:04 AM] BYTE-Smasher: phone numbers, of course, being high detail

[11:04 AM] BYTE-Smasher: :)

[11:04 AM] Jubb: adobe audition works well too

[11:05 AM] BYTE-Smasher: hmm

[11:05 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I tried cool edit

[11:05 AM] BYTE-Smasher: but I was getting too much noise

[11:05 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I'll have to install adobe audition

[11:05 AM] ZeroLux: i have not processed MIN thru a spectral yet

[11:05 AM] ZeroLux: cooledit kinda blows these das

[11:05 AM] ZeroLux: days

[11:05 AM] BYTE-Smasher: that's 'cause cool edit pro turned into adobe audition

[11:06 AM] ZeroLux: i used to have a ton of audio processing progs somewhere

[11:06 AM] BYTE-Smasher: so if your'e using cool edit, you've got an old version

[11:06 AM] ZeroLux: the progam still currently called 'Cool Edit Pro' is the original old ver. and sucks.

[11:06 AM] ZeroLux: yeah

[11:06 AM] ZeroLux: there are no 'new' versions by that name

[11:06 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I wouldn't say it sucks per say

[11:06 AM] ZeroLux: eh

[11:06 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I use it quite effectively

[11:07 AM] ZeroLux: it has it's issues

[11:07 AM] BYTE-Smasher: like?

[11:07 AM] ZeroLux: i've actually had problems with it crashing while processing large files in uncompressed format

[11:07 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I've never had it crash

[11:08 AM] BYTE-Smasher: were you using a pirated version?

[11:08 AM] ZeroLux: at first i thought it was a hardware issue, but i changed a few things and same result. no, legit copy

[11:08 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I've done 20 channel multitrack work with it with no problems

[11:08 AM] BYTE-Smasher: albeit, I had to lock most of my tracks when I wasn't using them

[11:09 AM] BYTE-Smasher: but that's pretty standard with any program

[11:09 AM] ZeroLux: i quit using it shortly after that anyway. i reinstalled it recently on a different machine to try the spec for nin

[11:09 AM] ZeroLux: i should find my copy of Reason again

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[11:13 AM] teamcanuck: anything new?

[11:13 AM] xvs: me? i'm not

[11:13 AM] xvs: :)

[11:13 AM] teamcanuck: have it

[11:13 AM] xvs: sure

[11:13 AM] elyzaria: there was something new posted at 1am, but I'm not too sure what it meant

[11:13 AM] xvs: i remember:)

[11:14 AM] teamcanuck: no cause i was reading on ETS that Vessel and Capital G were somewhere heard

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[11:15 AM] teamcanuck: lowki said it on pg 233

[11:16 AM] Jubb: uhh wasn't that just the guy at the radio station who had advance copies of these songs

[11:17 AM] teamcanuck: well whoever he is i want those songs!

[11:17 AM] xvs: heh

[11:17 AM] xvs: my guess that we'll have full album on 17th april in mp3/320kbps

[11:18 AM] elyzaria: that's probably true imo

[11:18 AM] teamcanuck: really? thats a suprise!

[11:18 AM] xvs: trent doesn't like riia so far

[11:18 AM] xvs: riaa

[11:18 AM] teamcanuck: what riaa?

[11:18 AM] teamcanuck: *whats

[11:18 AM] xvs: (whatever)

[11:19 AM] xvs: recording industry blahblah

[11:19 AM] xvs: cant remember:)

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[11:19 AM] xvs: copyrights and other shit

[11:19 AM] xvs: that doesnt allow to copy music etc

[11:20 AM] elyzaria: yeah, recording industry association of america

[11:20 AM] xvs: oh, yes

[11:20 AM] teamcanuck: ah ic

[11:20 AM] xvs: riaa

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[11:20 AM] elyzaria: they're the ones who come after you for sharing mp3s!

[11:20 AM] xvs: yeh

[11:20 AM] xvs: brainfuckers

[11:21 AM] elyzaria: indeed ;o

[11:21 AM] teamcanuck: they do? lmao im in canada so im safe:P

[11:21 AM] elyzaria: yepyep!

[11:21 AM] xvs: i'm in russia, so i don't care :)

[11:22 AM] teamcanuck: lol

[11:22 AM] tootall: hey what do u guuys know about gala

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[11:22 AM] xvs: gala-concert

[11:23 AM] ZeroLux: i'm on the east coast and i STILL DONT GIVE A SHIT

[11:23 AM] xvs: heh

[11:23 AM] tootall: in the consolidated mail systems it talks about the rape of gala

[11:23 AM] ZeroLux: let them come find me.

[11:23 AM] pigshit: So, did ETS close again when me, im not leaked?

[11:23 AM] pigshit: i wasnt around

[11:24 AM] xvs: close?

[11:24 AM] ZeroLux: ok can we use proper puncutation when using the title of a song like 'Me, I'm not'? specifically to distinguish it from THE REST OF YOUR SENTENCE?

[11:24 AM] xvs: :)

[11:24 AM] pigshit: yeah, when MVH leaked ets was flooded and shut down for a few hours due to traffic

[11:25 AM] teamcanuck: remember the cats?

[11:25 AM] aychseven: you sure its gala and not gaia?

[11:25 AM] KayCee: It was down for a few minutes I think

[11:25 AM] xvs: no me i'm not want to speculate that much about 'me i'm not' ;)

[11:25 AM] AqueousEcho: it does look like gala

[11:25 AM] xvs: it was just busy :)

[11:25 AM] xvs: gala/gaia.. whatever

[11:25 AM] tootall: Looks like an "L" to me

[11:25 AM] mranachronism: just use MIN

[11:25 AM] xvs: you think it's so important now?

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[11:54 AM] *** Initial topic: Welcome to #iamtryingtobelieve, your source for ARG discussion, interpretation, and other related things! Help us figure out the conspiracy! | ALL CONVERSATION MUST REMAIN ON-TOPIC. If you don't follow these rules, an operator WILL boot you. Keep off-topic bullshit in #yearzero. Refusing to follow these rules will result in a ban. | NEWS: "ME, I'M NOT" HAS LEAKED! DON'T ASK FOR IT HERE, GO TO ETS, YOU NOOBS!

[11:54 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve: VaelekWork Mr_Grim_N_Evil bund Drazhar aychseven AqueousEcho elyzaria Jubb KayCee blast_ets ravadox tootall mranachronism torrefaction_ Delusional BYTE-Smasher Masamune xvs @yourexwife criarde ZenHarbinger Fibus Psil0cybe scummy-sleep chippy Overand pae Vaelek_ aeryxz cut lowazzgolf nympholept +casualty Starblade|Work psicom VinzClortho P-Frank Nitret Nyarlathotep jerx hokkaido aaronr Keymaster MountainGirl remixxer iseewhyyouleft

[11:54 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve: s3phiroth billnye Malechite tp123 chroipahtz2 @heroicraptor digshake Insomniak` @playwithfire_ Bobo_Minky ZeroLux scorpionz torrefaction `3kiLLa c0 cynicmuse pravus rue dona +LordMael

[11:54 AM] *** #iamtryingtobelieve was created on Thu Feb 15 13:12:15 2007.

[11:54 AM] torrefaction_: God vorbid people stay on topic

[11:54 AM] torrefaction_: heh

[11:58 AM] yourexwife: yeah.

[11:59 AM] yourexwife: mormolyke has the right to say what she needs/wants to, but people arguing with her are fucking stupid.

[11:59 AM] yourexwife: you DON'T argue with mormolyke. period.

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[12:01 PM] BYTE-Smasher: vorbid... what a word

[12:01 PM] BYTE-Smasher: :p

[12:02 PM] BYTE-Smasher: sounds like a metal band ....... VORBID!!! \m/-.-\m/

[12:03 PM] Drazhar: what causes tears to be orange?

[12:03 PM] aychseven: probably the same that that causes girls to smell like copper

[12:03 PM] BYTE-Smasher: why sunny delight, of course

[12:03 PM] Jubb: coulda been dried blood or some kind of reaction to opal shit in your eye

[12:03 PM] AqueousEcho: drazhar - we spent a good half an hour on that yesterday with no resultsd.

[12:04 PM] Drazhar: ahh, ok

[12:04 PM] BYTE-Smasher: didn't you hear about that girl turning orange because of the sunny d? that was a testing platform for perapin

[12:04 PM] BYTE-Smasher: XD

[12:04 PM] yourexwife: they took pennies, liquified them, and threw it at people.

[12:04 PM] yourexwife: duh.

[12:04 PM] Jubb: out of a gun

[12:04 PM] Drazhar: too many carrots :p

[12:04 PM] Jubb: see in the dark

[12:04 PM] BYTE-Smasher: actually too much carrots juice will turn the skin an orangish color

[12:04 PM] aychseven: that just turns your skin orange

[12:04 PM] BYTE-Smasher: it's the beta carotine

[12:05 PM] aychseven: yeppers

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[12:05 PM] Jubb: I wonder if they pee orange too

[12:05 PM] BYTE-Smasher: well perhaps perapin is 1/3 beta carotine, 1/3 copper, and 1/3 lsd

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[12:06 PM] chippy: yeah, a few cases of orange/yellow kids were found way back - turned out all they ate were carrots

[12:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I love carrots

[12:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: they're so good with dill dip

[12:07 PM] Jubb: they help ya see

[12:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: any dip actually

[12:07 PM] Jubb: @nighttime

[12:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I thougth that was a wivestale

[12:07 PM] Jubb: Nope

[12:07 PM] aychseven: everything i find comes back to rifampin

[12:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: hmm

[12:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: wierd

[12:08 PM] BYTE-Smasher: even snopes thinks it's a wivestale

[12:08 PM] aychseven: causes orange tears sweat urine

[12:08 PM] BYTE-Smasher: (Link: http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/carrots.asp)http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/carrots.asp

[12:08 PM] Jubb: ; )

[12:08 PM] ZenHarbinger: that's what i was about to post

[12:08 PM] chippy: same with spinach

[12:09 PM] Jubb: so where can you find that separate mp3 that lead to the phone number being discovered

[12:09 PM] Jubb: i'd just like to look at it myself

[12:10 PM] aychseven: should be in the rar with me, i'm not

[12:10 PM] aychseven: 2432.mp3

[12:10 PM] Jubb: don't think it was when I downloaded it last night, i'll double check though

[12:11 PM] pravus: does anyone know the significance of the 2423 numbers? is that supposed to be 24.2.3?

[12:12 PM] xvs: shit

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[12:12 PM] xvs: i need to hire someone

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[12:13 PM] aychseven: hrrmmmm they use rifampin as a treatment for TB

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[12:13 PM] aychseven: says nothing about coppery smell though

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[12:17 PM] Jubb: why isnt 2432.mp3 on symphony of noise

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[12:26 PM] Drazhar: soo, dresden is the clue for the passage right?

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[12:32 PM] Jubb: link?

[12:33 PM] elyzaria: omg i forgot i was in here

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[12:34 PM] Drazhar: I was just thinking

[12:34 PM] Drazhar: theres a Dresden, Staffordshire, UK

[12:34 PM] Drazhar: Wolvershampton is also located in Staffordshire, UK

[12:34 PM] Drazhar: which is the last UK show

[12:34 PM] torrefaction_: Wait...maybe it's the Dresden Dolls! That's who's in charge of the conspiracy! (Okay...sorry...I had to)

[12:35 PM] torrefaction_: Has anyone updated the wiki with the info about dresden?

[12:35 PM] Drazhar: i just did

[12:36 PM] xvs: hm

[12:36 PM] Drazhar: well, about Dresden being a city in Staffordshire

[12:36 PM] xvs: isnt 'me im not' about us?

[12:37 PM] torrefaction_: February 13th...

[12:37 PM] torrefaction_: is there any key event that happened that day?

[12:38 PM] iantm: the show where mvh was "leaked"?

[12:38 PM] iantm: lisboa?

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[12:38 PM] yourexwife: lisbon ftw

[12:38 PM] torrefaction_: No..the last thing we have is heroicraptor 2/13

[12:38 PM] iantm: whatever, jesus

[12:38 PM] torrefaction_: I'm talking about the year zero timeline

[12:39 PM] Jubb: uhh in relation to the feb13 destruction of dresden in 1945?

[12:39 PM] torrefaction_: Oh

[12:39 PM] torrefaction_: wait

[12:39 PM] torrefaction_: That's interesting

[12:40 PM] torrefaction_: 2/13 is the sermon from Church of Plano

[12:40 PM] Jubb: oo

[12:40 PM] torrefaction_: regarding heroicraptor Resisting the authority of god

[12:40 PM] torrefaction_: 2/13 is the date of the Dresden firebombings

[12:41 PM] torrefaction_: I still feel like we're missing something at the Church, and this makes me more curious about that

[12:41 PM] xvs: 2/17

[12:42 PM] torrefaction_: What's 2/17?

[12:43 PM] xvs: 112 killed in star chamèer?

[12:43 PM] torrefaction_: oh

[12:43 PM] torrefaction_: yeah

[12:43 PM] torrefaction_: I was just doing some date correlation considering the reference to Dresden

[12:45 PM] xvs: i think i'll write a big post with thoughts

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[12:45 PM] xvs: (but i dunno where to post it anyway))

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[12:45 PM] xvs: hey wch

[12:45 PM] workingclasshero: good day

[12:45 PM] Stinky-D: has anyone posted the actual *.rar file from the leak? or the 2432.mp3 file?

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[12:46 PM] Jubb: I can't seem to find it

[12:46 PM] workingclasshero: what are we working on today?

[12:46 PM] xvs: dates i guess

[12:46 PM] xvs: timeline

[12:47 PM] workingclasshero: good idea

[12:47 PM] workingclasshero: feb appears to be a good month for terrorism

[12:48 PM] xvs: sept too

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[12:49 PM] Fantom23: one thing i'm thinking about is the significance of the "bunny suits"

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[12:50 PM] rue: Radiation or hazmat suits

[12:50 PM] Fantom23: well alright then

[12:50 PM] Fantom23: heh

[12:50 PM] Fantom23: never heard of them called that before

[12:51 PM] BYTE-Smasher: trent's a furry now

[12:51 PM] BYTE-Smasher: he likes his bunny suit

[12:52 PM] workingclasshero: sorry i am trying to catch up today but who are we thinking SIKES works for, since it is not the fbi??

[12:53 PM] rue: Gestapo Inc.

[12:53 PM] xvs: FBM

[12:53 PM] workingclasshero: morality got it

[12:53 PM] xvs: but anyway, they're talking bout FBI

[12:54 PM] xvs: Stinky-D found?

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[12:55 PM] Stinky-D: xvs: negative

[12:55 PM] xvs: (Link: http://xvs.maloletka.ru/tmp/NIN.rar)http://xvs.maloletka.ru/tmp/NIN.rar

[12:55 PM] xvs: catch

[12:55 PM] xvs: :)

[12:55 PM] Stinky-D: caught

[12:55 PM] Stinky-D: danke!

[12:55 PM] xvs: np

[12:55 PM] yourexwife: NICE THROW LOSER

[12:55 PM] yourexwife: kidding.

[12:56 PM] xvs: hehe

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[12:56 PM] Stinky-D: if you haven't checked out the db.remix1 of mvh on ets yet

[12:56 PM] Stinky-D: it is worth a download

[12:56 PM] Stinky-D: good stuff

[12:56 PM] * xvs working on song, yz-inspired

[12:57 PM] Stinky-D: original tune?

[12:57 PM] xvs: ye

[12:57 PM] Stinky-D: nice

[12:57 PM] workingclasshero: AGENT SIKES

[12:57 PM] workingclasshero: Curiously, your districts also consistently under-report violations of the Freedom Act.

[12:57 PM] workingclasshero: parepin?

[12:57 PM] xvs: "freedom act"?

[12:59 PM] workingclasshero: looks like it must address issues of ''Criminal speech, negligent morale, that sort of thing.""

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[01:00 PM] xvs: wanna see that act...

[01:00 PM] workingclasshero: sure

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[01:00 PM] xvs: the sky is not the same

[01:01 PM] xvs: (ta-da-dam)

[01:01 PM] xvs: well

[01:01 PM] * xvs going home

[01:01 PM] xvs: i guess

[01:02 PM] workingclasshero: oh i get it YOU WANT to see that act giggle i thought you were asking me if i wanted to see it

[01:02 PM] xvs: ;)

[01:03 PM] workingclasshero: <<<<<exhausted

[01:03 PM] xvs: oh

[01:03 PM] yourexwife: i am spacing my words really far apart

[01:03 PM] * xvs after sleepless night

[01:03 PM] workingclasshero: catch you all tonight

[01:03 PM] workingclasshero: if i knew you better werz i would curse you

[01:03 PM] workingclasshero: merz*

[01:04 PM] xvs: ðóðóÆ)

[01:04 PM] xvs: hehe:)

[01:04 PM] * yourexwife curses workingclasshero.

[01:04 PM] workingclasshero: f u c k y o u

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[01:04 PM] yourexwife: i just don't see the point of all the obnoxious spaces

[01:04 PM] KayCee: haha

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[01:05 PM] xvs: split phrases i guess

[01:05 PM] yourexwife: it's annoying.

[01:05 PM] xvs: íó

[01:05 PM] xvs: ye

[01:05 PM] yourexwife: even still, i was joking.

[01:05 PM] xvs: "press enter"

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[01:05 PM] xvs: some people didnt seem to dig that kind of irc fun :)

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[01:06 PM] BYTE-Smasher: people are tards when it comes to irc... they seem to think you're violating them somehow by joking around

[01:06 PM] BYTE-Smasher: even when it's in no way directed at them

[01:06 PM] yourexwife: yeah. gotta love it.

[01:07 PM] xvs: it was fun to see all those crowds that discovered irc at circa 2000

[01:07 PM] yourexwife: if it was #yearzero, i wouldn't have a problem with it, but this is a different sort of channel.

[01:07 PM] yourexwife: haha, yeah, agreed xvs.

[01:07 PM] xvs: TAHT WAS FUN

[01:07 PM] xvs: they were all SERIOUS

[01:07 PM] xvs: fantastic

[01:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: lol

[01:07 PM] xvs: but anyway it all began with efnet split back in '96-97

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[01:08 PM] xvs: here in .ru some journalists start making articles about irc

[01:08 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I had a guy leave one of my channels claiming i was a poor op once. When I asked him for an example of how, all he came up with was the fact that I told lame jokes occasionally

[01:08 PM] xvs: and all thta script kiddies etc...

[01:08 PM] xvs: meh

[01:08 PM] xvs: k-line fun

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[01:10 PM] xvs: well

[01:10 PM] xvs: gotta go home

[01:10 PM] xvs: bus is waiting:)

[01:10 PM] xvs: brb

[01:12 PM] torrefaction_: I can vet that...you do tell lame jokes Byte

[01:12 PM] torrefaction_: ....

[01:12 PM] torrefaction_: :D

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[01:12 PM] torrefaction_: Interesting...

[01:12 PM] torrefaction_: Psalm 58....on the church of plano site...has this

[01:12 PM] torrefaction_: Let them melt away as waters which run continually:

[01:12 PM] torrefaction_: Kinda reminds me of the sweating blood

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[01:15 PM] BYTE-Smasher: is there a searchable index of the site text?

[01:15 PM] BYTE-Smasher: *sites

[01:16 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I want to search some partial words I found in an image

[01:17 PM] torrefaction_: I have one at my home comp

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[01:17 PM] heroicraptor: just go to each page and ctrl+f the partial words

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[01:17 PM] torrefaction_: It's more of a dictionary file though

[01:17 PM] torrefaction_: not text in order, but ALL words

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[01:31 PM] BYTE-Smasher: anyone know how to google for partial words?

[01:31 PM] torrefaction_: What do you mean?

[01:31 PM] heroicraptor: par*

[01:31 PM] heroicraptor: i think

[01:32 PM] torrefaction_: ^^^

[01:32 PM] BYTE-Smasher: heroicraptor: doens't work

[01:32 PM] heroicraptor: like <partial word>*

[01:32 PM] heroicraptor: o

[01:32 PM] heroicraptor: idk then

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[01:32 PM] BYTE-Smasher: * is word wildcard

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[01:32 PM] BYTE-Smasher: not letter wildcard

[01:32 PM] BYTE-Smasher: =\

[01:33 PM] torrefaction_: Yeah, I'm looking

[01:34 PM] heroicraptor: call google

[01:34 PM] heroicraptor: and ask them

[01:34 PM] torrefaction_: Ugh

[01:34 PM] torrefaction_: Bad news

[01:34 PM] torrefaction_: (Link: http://websearch.about.com/od/fromthemailbag/f/partialword.htm)http://websearch.about.com/od/fromthemailbag/f/partialword.htm

[01:35 PM] billnye: 1-900-GOO-GLIT

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[01:35 PM] torrefaction_: You may be able to pull something off with cached pages and google desktop though

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[01:35 PM] `3kiLLLa: btw i went looking for the building yesterday where i thought the 216-333-1810 number was from, kinda inconclusive - i figured out its a number held by generation wireless

[01:36 PM] aychseven: like people were saying before...

[01:36 PM] aychseven: duh ;)

[01:36 PM] BYTE-Smasher: yah

[01:36 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I see

[01:36 PM] BYTE-Smasher: that sucks

[01:37 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I wish I could search the web with regex

[01:37 PM] aychseven: regex hurts my brain

[01:38 PM] BYTE-Smasher: regex is easy if you know what the symbols do

[01:38 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I used to fjeer regex myself

[01:38 PM] billnye: (Link: http://regular-expressions.info)http://regular-expressions.info

[01:38 PM] BYTE-Smasher: but I don't now

[01:38 PM] BYTE-Smasher: :)

[01:38 PM] billnye: it's a shill site, but good ground-up information

[01:41 PM] rue: Oh, someone cracked it.

[01:41 PM] aychseven: eh?

[01:41 PM] rue: Earth is ruled by alien reptilian robots.

[01:41 PM] aychseven: meh. copout

[01:41 PM] torrefaction_: Byte: Why not spider the pages?

[01:41 PM] torrefaction_: And just use grep to do your job?

[01:42 PM] s3phiroth: torrefaction_: i guess that's already been done :p

[01:43 PM] aychseven: and you don't get the text from images

[01:43 PM] torrefaction_: ?

[01:43 PM] torrefaction_: Byte was trying to do it

[01:43 PM] torrefaction_: So I gave him a solution...for whatever reason he's trying to do it :)

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[01:44 PM] xvs: its good to be home)

[01:44 PM] s3phiroth: hah. let's ask some spammer for one of those bots which process captchas and read it's text

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[01:47 PM] aqueousecho: anything new happening?

[01:47 PM] aqueousecho: :P

[01:47 PM] xvs-food: yep. -20ñ outside

[01:49 PM] aqueousecho: has anyone tried running all the letters, the the new ones, through an anagram thingy?

[01:49 PM] torrefaction_: Huh...I kinda noticed something interesting

[01:49 PM] torrefaction_: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. No, no wait. Oh shit, my skin isn't turnin' shit

[01:49 PM] aqueousecho: ?

[01:49 PM] torrefaction_: From the ballgame mp3

[01:50 PM] torrefaction_: In the MeImnot call, the girl says something about her skin too

[01:50 PM] torrefaction_: Which I thought was scared out of my skin when I made the transcript

[01:50 PM] aqueousecho: and about the guy sweating blood.

[01:50 PM] rue: I think he says *is* turning

[01:50 PM] rue: Could be the silver nitrate or whatever it was.

[01:51 PM] aqueousecho: i still think its red pill related, ir the 105th airbourne

[01:51 PM] aqueousecho: ie*

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[01:51 PM] aqueousecho: though..

[01:52 PM] aqueousecho: alright assuming the MVH is about the resistance movment,a nd that Me, I'm Not is taking fromt he point of view of an opal user.

[01:52 PM] aqueousecho: MVH gave us AVOTT.com, the resistance message board.

[01:53 PM] aqueousecho: MIN gave us this sound clip, so maybe the song is actually from the point of view of the killer.

[01:54 PM] aqueousecho: juding by the lyrics, i dont think i'm far off.

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[01:55 PM] torrefaction_: Yeah, we've talked about this a few times...it's pretty much a consensus that this is either from the point of a government "pill type" or something along those lines

[01:56 PM] aqueousecho: ...see? this is what happens when i sleep for 12 hours. i miss this. :P

[01:57 PM] torrefaction_: lol

[01:57 PM] torrefaction_: Sleep is for the weak

[01:57 PM] torrefaction_: ;)

[01:57 PM] chantene: haha

[02:01 PM] Jubb: AVOTT.com?

[02:01 PM] Jubb: oh ok

[02:01 PM] Jubb: i'm slow on these acronyms

[02:01 PM] Jubb: lol

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[02:06 PM] aychseven: i was thinking the same about me, i'm not being from an opal user, cause there are other lyrics quoted on avott board that sound more like from a red pill guy

[02:08 PM] BYTE-Smasher: hmm

[02:08 PM] BYTE-Smasher: interesting

[02:08 PM] BYTE-Smasher: 105.html links to an image called chinese democracy

[02:08 PM] BYTE-Smasher: "Chinese Democracy is the name of the long-delayed album from rock band Guns N' Roses."

[02:09 PM] BYTE-Smasher: :o

[02:09 PM] aqueousecho: link?

[02:09 PM] heroicraptor: old

[02:09 PM] aychseven: a pic someone linked to yesterday had a sign in the background that said chinese democracy

[02:10 PM] hokkaido: maybe it's a joke that chinese democrazy is not yet released on year zero.

[02:10 PM] BYTE-Smasher: (Link: http://yearzero.nin.com/img/105.html)http://yearzero.nin.com/img/105.html

[02:10 PM] hokkaido: "coming soon"

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[02:13 PM] aychseven: i always felt blood tastes like iron, but if you google blood and copper there are lots of references to smell...

[02:14 PM] SoundlyAsleep: i think its some new kind of epidemic thing thats just been flashed, and that more will come

[02:14 PM] chantene: hemoglobin oxidizes Fe to Fe 3+

[02:14 PM] rue: In other news, Bill Chapman is *every single person we have heard of so far*!

[02:14 PM] chantene: hence the iron/coppery flavor/smell of blood

[02:14 PM] SoundlyAsleep: not linked to anything from the earlier story

[02:15 PM] elyzaria: has the album cover been posted yet, on that one image?

[02:15 PM] heroicraptor: next person to talk about off-topic bullshit is getting kicked

[02:15 PM] aychseven: nope

[02:16 PM] aychseven: well if blood smells like copper... i wonder how much that would stick to you... i'd imagine the blood of 122 people would be enough to make one smell like copper as they brushed by someone

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[02:16 PM] aychseven: still doesnt explain the orange tears though

[02:17 PM] torrefaction_: I think the person with the orange tears is not the person that did the killing

[02:17 PM] `3kiLLLa: tears are waste, could the copper be excreted through the tears as a waste product?

[02:17 PM] torrefaction_: I'm fairly certain the two are seperate

[02:17 PM] torrefaction_: I think the orange tears is the person who did...cleanup

[02:17 PM] torrefaction_: I think the other person was very likely someone gone rogue

[02:17 PM] chantene: true

[02:17 PM] chantene: i agree torre

[02:17 PM] torrefaction_: I mean, if killing becomes like orgams

[02:18 PM] torrefaction_: It could become an addiction in and of itself

[02:18 PM] chantene: well, blood could be excreted through the tear ducts several ways

[02:18 PM] chantene: but...i think it's prob related to this "disease" or whatever is making peoples skin bleed

[02:18 PM] chantene: or maybe bioterrorism like the other incidents

[02:19 PM] chantene: ...or a side effect of parepin

[02:19 PM] chantene: lol

[02:19 PM] aychseven: torre: yeah you are right about the person w/ the decon unit

[02:19 PM] aychseven: she was the agent, and she was the one crying and smelling like copper

[02:20 PM] torrefaction_: And the agent told the cop he was "sorry" he saw that

[02:20 PM] torrefaction_: but the agent wasn't sure about what happened inside entirely

[02:20 PM] aychseven: theres something special about the agent

[02:20 PM] torrefaction_: Makes me think one agent had to kill someone she knew

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[02:20 PM] torrefaction_: Which throws some 1984 themes in there

[02:20 PM] torrefaction_: :)

[02:21 PM] torrefaction_: Chantene: I'm not so sure about it being directly related to parepin.

[02:21 PM] aychseven: well skies was saying "she's not like me"

[02:21 PM] torrefaction_: chantene: I think there's a connection there, but the outbreak was too controlled

[02:21 PM] aychseven: as if this agent w/ the decon unit is different for some reason

[02:21 PM] Swindley: Good day folks

[02:22 PM] chantene: good point

[02:22 PM] torrefaction_: Most definitely.

[02:22 PM] aychseven: if it was an outbreak, why would they wait for 2 days to send in decon?

[02:22 PM] chantene: quarantine?

[02:23 PM] chantene: maybe they didn't know what it was or what to expect

[02:23 PM] torrefaction_: Well, I mean whatever happened...outbreak may be too strong of a word

[02:23 PM] aychseven: yeah but why let the office come home and then return 2 days later

[02:23 PM] SoundlyAsleep: i wonder where this first infected persom came from.. if it spreads that quickly and you die from it he must have been infected by someone else not long ago...

[02:23 PM] aychseven: risk spread

[02:23 PM] aychseven: office=officer

[02:23 PM] rue: The tears could be a real anti-whatever-agent symptom

[02:24 PM] rue: Of course it could be that seeing the tears is not revealing something about the agent but the cop instead

[02:24 PM] SoundlyAsleep: and then why isn't the spread out in public.. could there be some kind of research center linked to this underground club place maby...?

[02:24 PM] aychseven: the police were there. unprotected. allowed to go home. if it was a weaponized bioagent i doubt they would let these people possibly spread it

[02:24 PM] SoundlyAsleep: where something has gone wrong with experiments?

[02:24 PM] rue: Right

[02:24 PM] chantene: hmmm

[02:24 PM] chantene: interesting soundly

[02:25 PM] aychseven: plus in the interview they say the people ripped eachother to pieces

[02:25 PM] Jubb: red pills sounds like

[02:25 PM] SoundlyAsleep: the place was under ground, right?

[02:25 PM] heroicraptor: yes

[02:26 PM] chantene: i was thinking maybe the tears were red pill related too, jubb...but maybe subconsciously i associated the two due to the "red"ness

[02:26 PM] aychseven: oops, not ripped eachother. just says "hunted down and torn to pieces"

[02:26 PM] Jubb: the orange tears could be like dried blood, there are diseases that make you bleed out your eyes, but opal has the connection with the eyes

[02:27 PM] rue: A bioagent would have to be tested in containment unless it is not airborne. 'Police lines' do not really cut it

[02:27 PM] SoundlyAsleep: yeah but i dont think we shuld be that obsessed with the red pills and opal and stuff.. it could as well be something new

[02:27 PM] aychseven: yeah thats what i was pointing out

[02:27 PM] rue: And remember. Not everything is connected.

[02:27 PM] SoundlyAsleep: true

[02:28 PM] chantene: truly the first thing i though of when i heard orange tears was ebola...obviously not correct, but it did make me think of diseases that cause orafice hemmorhage

[02:28 PM] aychseven: hmm maybe something transmitted by blood

[02:28 PM] SoundlyAsleep: i think the under ground place is connected to some kind of under ground experimet thingy led by the government

[02:29 PM] rue: Yeh, I am 99% that the agent is not contaminated

[02:29 PM] aychseven: that never crossed my mind

[02:29 PM] chantene: i like your thinking, soundly!

[02:29 PM] rue: It is either a precaution or then completely unrelated to whatever was going on

[02:29 PM] SoundlyAsleep: ;)

[02:29 PM] aychseven: just trying to figure out why they locked the people in, and obviously it wasn't dangerous enough to require quarantine or bunny suits etc immediately

[02:30 PM] rue: Not feeling that, SoundlyAsleep. It seems that these were either just normal kids or then subversive kids

[02:30 PM] aqueousecho: maybe they didn't know?

[02:30 PM] chantene: yeah...a blind experiment

[02:30 PM] Jubb: since they give soldiers pills as uppers and stuff to make them insane and kill everyone, maybe they're trying another form of treatment maybe to make people into super soldiers

[02:30 PM] rue: And the 'underground' is probably just the basement or garage of an office building

[02:30 PM] aychseven: they explain that

[02:30 PM] aychseven: as the place where the printing presses were

[02:30 PM] aychseven: its like the basement

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[02:31 PM] rue: Right. Not an Area 51 Underground

[02:31 PM] SoundlyAsleep: yeah they are notmal kids, but the first killer may have been someone working with an experiment somewhere underground. something went wrong, he started running around in the tunnels under the city, fund the kids

[02:31 PM] `3kiLLLa: Jubb: interesting

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[02:31 PM] rue: Hmm

[02:31 PM] aychseven: i think its more like he was introduced into the club, or just found his way in

[02:31 PM] torrefaction_: Wonder if they put anything in recreational drugs?

[02:31 PM] rue: Leaning on introduced

[02:32 PM] rue: I am actually not even sold on that part yet, need to listen/read the phone call again

[02:32 PM] aychseven: they say he "showed up" dont they?

[02:32 PM] SoundlyAsleep: but who would introduce some one there if he's covered with blood and has a knife?

[02:32 PM] aychseven: i dont even think its clear he had a knife

[02:33 PM] aqueousecho: she says it

[02:33 PM] torrefaction_: Yeah

[02:33 PM] mpikeat2002: yea she does

[02:33 PM] xvs-drunk: ik

[02:33 PM] torrefaction_: She says we didn't notice the knife

[02:33 PM] aychseven: she says what exactly?

[02:33 PM] torrefaction_: ^^^^

[02:33 PM] torrefaction_: Look at the transcript

[02:33 PM] rue: Well, she says they did not see a knife which DOES suggest she /thinks/ he is using a knife

[02:33 PM] rue: Which means slashing wounds etc

[02:33 PM] aychseven: right, but not that there really was a knife

[02:33 PM] rue: But it could be that there are slashing wounds *without* a knife

[02:34 PM] aychseven: if the word is actually knife. it sounds garbled to me

[02:34 PM] aqueousecho: that doesn't explain the gun shots you can hear on the recording though

[02:34 PM] torrefaction_: Aqueous: That's the police

[02:34 PM] Jubb: riot control?

[02:34 PM] torrefaction_: aqueous: She says the police locked them in

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[02:34 PM] aychseven: and those dont sound like gunshots to me either

[02:34 PM] aychseven: more like some big crash

[02:34 PM] torrefaction_: At the end I noticed to weird things

[02:34 PM] Jubb: yeah like a door getting knocked down like off teh hinges

[02:34 PM] torrefaction_: There was a tone, in the last scream

[02:35 PM] torrefaction_: if you noticed....it sounds almost like her pitch changes

[02:35 PM] torrefaction_: you can play that tone by itself in that section...and looking at the spectrogram, it almost looks like fingers in the file

[02:35 PM] torrefaction_: The only thing is, it could very well have been a VoIP glitch or something

[02:35 PM] aqueousecho: ...are you serious?

[02:35 PM] torrefaction_: So I haven't said much about it

[02:35 PM] torrefaction_: Yeah

[02:35 PM] aychseven: ok yeah you're right about the knife. just listened again via phone

[02:35 PM] torrefaction_: I sure am

[02:36 PM] torrefaction_: Aych: I wrote the transcript (People helped fix it), I listened to it like 40 tiems

[02:36 PM] aychseven: didnt see the knife (garbled) but then later says he stabbed someone

[02:36 PM] aqueousecho: run mutiple recordings through. see if you ge it everytime

[02:36 PM] torrefaction_: Can't right now. All that stuff's at home

[02:36 PM] lemmer: sorry, where's the transcript located?

[02:36 PM] aqueousecho: if you get a chance later then.

[02:37 PM] aychseven: wheres the transcript on the wiki?

[02:37 PM] Jubb: anyone else think from 2:06 - 2:09 it sounds like someone's getting either eaten or just ripped to shreds

[02:37 PM] torrefaction_: someone wanna try?

[02:37 PM] torrefaction_: (Link: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speech.kth.se%2Fwavesurfer%2F&ei=DFzbRcHvDYqajgHIndzHCQ&usg=__w2w0LMAOl-jsjMHmlkEVig_aYF4=&sig2=CY9EbhBvXiTgb7RknzqDCQ)http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speech.kth.se%2Fwavesurfer%2F&ei=DFzbRcHvDYqajgHIndzHCQ&usg=__w2w0LMAOl-jsjMHmlkEVig_aYF4=&sig2=CY9EbhBvXiTgb7RknzqDCQ

[02:37 PM] SoundlyAsleep: buh... Im glad i havn't heard it

[02:37 PM] torrefaction_: Spectrogram software :)

[02:38 PM] torrefaction_: Look at the end of the sound, where the screaming happens

[02:38 PM] Jubb: is that proggy better than adobe audition?

[02:38 PM] SoundlyAsleep: there is something to watch in the pitch y mean?

[02:38 PM] Jubb: audition seems to be workin for me fine

[02:38 PM] aqueousecho: whats the link for the transcript?

[02:39 PM] aychseven: (Link: http://www.ninwiki.com/12163331810)http://www.ninwiki.com/12163331810

[02:39 PM] lemmer: thank you

[02:39 PM] torrefaction_: your prolly fine jubb

[02:39 PM] torrefaction_: I was just giving that for people that didn't have anything

[02:39 PM] SoundlyAsleep: isnt it just one of the distortions that they use in the sound files a lot.. like the distortion in the images on the web pages...

[02:39 PM] torrefaction_: Jubb: Can you look at the area I was talking about?

[02:40 PM] xvs-drunk: btw

[02:40 PM] xvs-drunk: ppl

[02:40 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I'm currently using a custom clash applet to parse through all the possible nin image numbers in the yz minisite to see if there's any more images there

[02:40 PM] xvs-drunk: anyone have that stolen.mp3?

[02:40 PM] aychseven: torre, the program you linked doesnt seem to do spectrogram very well

[02:40 PM] Jubb: yeah I'm not really seein anything out of the ordinary

[02:40 PM] aqueousecho: yeaht he "everybodies got it" confirms that there was more then one person killing

[02:41 PM] Jubb: what's stolen.mp3

[02:41 PM] aychseven: yeah whats that?

[02:41 PM] xvs-drunk: from spiral i guess

[02:41 PM] xvs-drunk: Originally Posted by snaapz

[02:41 PM] xvs-drunk: ITS STOLEN MATERIAL

[02:41 PM] xvs-drunk: (Link: http://snaapz.bounceme.net/stolen.mp3)http://snaapz.bounceme.net/stolen.mp3

[02:41 PM] xvs-drunk: NIN beside KMFDM

[02:41 PM] xvs-drunk: You: go fuck yourself. Now. The day I steal something from KMFD-Fucking-M is a sad fucking day indeed. Call up Sasha and have him sue me if you feel that strongly about it, meanwhile let everyone have some goddamned fun without you pissing on the parade.

[02:41 PM] aychseven: aww its down :(

[02:41 PM] xvs-drunk: noone dl'ed it?:(

[02:41 PM] Jubb: uhh somebody put it on rapidshare or something

[02:42 PM] Jubb: right now

[02:42 PM] Jubb: lol

[02:42 PM] xvs-drunk: YAY REUPLOAD PLZPLZPLZOMGOMGONEONEONE

[02:42 PM] xvs-drunk: ;)

[02:42 PM] torrefaction_: Jubb: you don't see 4 straight lines, seem almost like fingers towards the end?

[02:42 PM] Jubb: horizontal or vertical

[02:43 PM] torrefaction_: horizontal

[02:43 PM] torrefaction_: Right around /immediately after the deep growl sound

[02:43 PM] torrefaction_: If you play the section I'm talking about by itself, it played a high tone

[02:43 PM] torrefaction_: but that tone wasn't very audible, except for I noticed a pitch change in the scream at the end

[02:43 PM] Jubb: horizontal lines just indicate tone

[02:43 PM] Jubb: they're all over the place

[02:44 PM] torrefaction_: This was entirely different than everythign else on the wav

[02:44 PM] Jubb: i've been looking at a lot of spectrograms lately

[02:44 PM] torrefaction_: eh

[02:44 PM] Jubb: probably nothing, but good that you're lookin out

[02:44 PM] billnye: but they indicate a fairly pure tone

[02:44 PM] rue: 28 days later was a good movie :)

[02:45 PM] Jubb: I was kinda wondering why the sound cuts out at random points at the end, I mean it's a wiretap recording not like some ghetto hook up

[02:45 PM] aqueousecho: the mroe i think about this, the mroe the experiment makes sense.

[02:45 PM] torrefaction_: See, the whole thing is, it sounds like a generated tone

[02:45 PM] torrefaction_: Not like anything else on the mp3, and I see the same pattern in two spots at the end

[02:45 PM] Jubb: I don't like that transcript I don't care if a bunch of people heard the name roby the voice is completely femenine

[02:45 PM] aqueousecho: what if this guy was infected with something, and then thrown into the club by the feds? i think maybe this WAS an experiemnt.

[02:45 PM] rue: Jubb: The wiretap is on one of the two 'ends' of the line. In this case probably the recipient's

[02:46 PM] aqueousecho: roby is a girls name

[02:46 PM] torrefaction_: Jubb: Robin

[02:46 PM] aqueousecho: short for robin

[02:46 PM] Jubb: really? damn

[02:46 PM] Jubb: lol

[02:46 PM] torrefaction_: It's really possible

[02:46 PM] aychseven: hard o

[02:46 PM] torrefaction_: There's 3 possibilities

[02:46 PM] torrefaction_: Ruby

[02:46 PM] torrefaction_: Mommy

[02:46 PM] Jubb: i'm just gonna pretend its mommy

[02:46 PM] torrefaction_: Robby

[02:46 PM] Jubb: lol

[02:47 PM] aychseven: heh that was my take on it, but some times it sounds like an R, but i'll play that up to snot and crying ;)

[02:48 PM] `3kiLLLa: im reading this shit for the first time, whats a bunny suit?

[02:48 PM] * `3kiLLLa is imagining rayman

[02:48 PM] SoundlyAsleep: biohazard thingy

[02:48 PM] `3kiLLLa: ok

[02:48 PM] SoundlyAsleep: space man u know

[02:48 PM] * xvs-drunk is making railgun

[02:48 PM] SoundlyAsleep: ET

[02:48 PM] billnye: clean suit, a la intel's pentium 4 marketing

[02:48 PM] billnye: pentium 3?

[02:49 PM] SoundlyAsleep: heh

[02:49 PM] aychseven: pentium II i think

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[02:49 PM] billnye: I'm getting old ;)

[02:49 PM] aychseven: ditto :(

[02:49 PM] torrefaction_: Jubb: look from just before 2.07.1 to just before 2.07.4

[02:50 PM] torrefaction_: Also

[02:50 PM] torrefaction_: look at 204.9 to 2.05.1

[02:50 PM] BYTE-Smasher: hmmm I haven't found any images above 105 yet... and I just passed 1000

[02:50 PM] Jubb: ok one sec I was just slowing down the girl screaming the name

[02:51 PM] torrefaction_: I tried that

[02:51 PM] aychseven: lol

[02:51 PM] torrefaction_: Still failed to get clear pronunciation

[02:51 PM] torrefaction_: heh

[02:51 PM] Jubb: to me it sounds like shes starting to make a noise like when you're wailing it almost sounds like, uhhhMMOOMMMYYY and that beginning noise is throwing off the hard M sound

[02:52 PM] Jubb: like she can barely get the word out

[02:52 PM] SoundlyAsleep: well.. if the name cant be heard i guess it's not important

[02:52 PM] Jubb: yeah it just sucks cuz they're never gonna clarify it I bet haha

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[02:53 PM] SoundlyAsleep: if we need it then i suppose it will be repeated some time in the future and well know wich one it was

[02:53 PM] Jubb: alright let me look at what your talkin about torrefaction

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[02:57 PM] Jubb: I still don't really see it

[02:58 PM] * teamcanuck wonders what is new

[02:58 PM] torrefaction_: ???

[02:58 PM] torrefaction_: I saw it as soon as I reopened

[02:58 PM] torrefaction_: Highlight the section from 2.04.9 to 2.05.1

[02:58 PM] torrefaction_: and play it

[02:58 PM] xvs-drunk: nothn

[02:58 PM] torrefaction_: Are you using the recording fromt he wiki?

[02:59 PM] * teamcanuck wonders what everyone is looking for

[02:59 PM] torrefaction_: Nothing important :)

[02:59 PM] torrefaction_: Or, probably anyway

[02:59 PM] teamcanuck: but....thats like 3 milli sencods

[02:59 PM] torrefaction_: More of an oddity, wondering if there's an easter egg...99% likely it's not a clue

[02:59 PM] teamcanuck: 2*

[03:00 PM] teamcanuck: ohhh what song?

[03:00 PM] SoundlyAsleep: if there is something there i would gess its gonna be larger then 3 milli seconds

[03:00 PM] torrefaction_: No song...a phone number

[03:00 PM] teamcanuck: which one?

[03:00 PM] torrefaction_: It's the sound that makes me wonder

[03:00 PM] torrefaction_: The latest

[03:00 PM] rue: Hm. Might be 'mommy'

[03:01 PM] SoundlyAsleep: otherwise we shuld look into every little thing everywhere.. thats not reasonably

[03:01 PM] teamcanuck: lol yes, trent is calling us 'mommy'

[03:01 PM] Jubb: I would call my mommy if someone was ripping me in two

[03:01 PM] rue: Unless someone got a much clearer rip and was able to peg it an 'r'

[03:01 PM] teamcanuck: did u try slowing ti down?

[03:01 PM] pravus: "help me, please god" ?

[03:01 PM] Jubb: yeah doesn't help much

[03:02 PM] torrefaction_: Yeah, a few of us have tried

[03:02 PM] rue: I find slowing down makes it harder to understand

[03:02 PM] torrefaction_: its the filter they put it through

[03:02 PM] teamcanuck: if it an easter egg, why doesnt someone call the number and randomly press numbers at that time?

[03:02 PM] pravus: well.. more like "halp", but accents aside...

[03:04 PM] rue: Although I am not sure how much of a difference it makes whether it is mommy or Robin or whoever

[03:04 PM] torrefaction_: The way PBX's work, i'm almost certain that won't make a difference

[03:04 PM] heroicraptor: HALP ME I AM IN #HELL

[03:04 PM] torrefaction_: Rue: I Think we're doing this because there's not a lot to go on, so we're trying to clarify and sift through other stuff

[03:04 PM] torrefaction_: Or at least, I am

[03:04 PM] torrefaction_: :)

[03:05 PM] `3kiLLLa: heroicraptor: stay on topic please

[03:05 PM] rue: torrefaction_: Sure. The only way I see it is relevant if Roby/Mommy becomes a 'character' in the story

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[03:05 PM] torrefaction_: hahahaha

[03:05 PM] `3kiLLLa: lmfao

[03:05 PM] `3kiLLLa: :)

[03:05 PM] * torrefaction_ dies

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[03:05 PM] yourexwife: AHAHAHAHAHA HEROICRATPOR WAHT A NOOB

[03:05 PM] torrefaction_: Classic.

[03:06 PM] teamcanuck: lol

[03:06 PM] * xvs-drunk sets mode +lol torrefaction_

[03:06 PM] teamcanuck: that was great

[03:06 PM] KayCee: ha

[03:08 PM] Jubb: I can just see it now, a new song with Mommy screaming Mia as the chorus

[03:08 PM] SoundlyAsleep: why did trent say "no left overs from with teeth" if The Warning is on YZ?

[03:09 PM] aychseven-food: well have you listened to the warning from yz?

[03:11 PM] SoundlyAsleep: you mean its not interesting at all that there is a track on yz called just The Warning?

[03:11 PM] aychseven-food: i think me meant sound and idea wise there are no leftovers

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[03:12 PM] aychseven-food: its like OMG HE USED THE WORD 'THE' IN ONE OF HIS SONGS!!!11 MUST BE LEFTOVER FROM WITHTEETH!!@2@

[03:12 PM] aychseven-food: kind of ridiculous

[03:12 PM] P-Frank: where at yo

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[03:13 PM] SoundlyAsleep: i like you too

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[03:13 PM] torrefaction_: what the crap.

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[03:14 PM] iantm: heroicraptor is annoying

[03:14 PM] iantm: yes i said it

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[03:15 PM] iantm: i knew you were bad news when i read your hilarious weird al version of big man with a gun

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[03:16 PM] `3kiLLLa: lol

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[03:16 PM] iantm: haha

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[03:16 PM] yourexwife: JOIN THE FUN IN #YEARZERO

[03:17 PM] P-Frank: looks boring there

[03:17 PM] P-Frank: i want to know the next website

[03:17 PM] mpikeat2002: cant wait to see how the album is released :)

[03:17 PM] xvs: j yearzero then :)

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[03:17 PM] * Delusinal says don't join #yearzero

[03:18 PM] * P-Frank says don't do drugs

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[03:18 PM] mpikeat2002: lol

[03:19 PM] mpikeat2002: lol

[03:19 PM] Delusinal: there kick happy in there. the only reason i join that channle is it's on my autojoin for another server.

[03:20 PM] Delusinal: *thier

[03:20 PM] rue: Yes, the old @-sign, the ancient symbol of a shriveled penis.

[03:20 PM] rue: Laters

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[03:20 PM] xvs: rue))

[03:21 PM] vVdravenVv: wtf

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[03:22 PM] Delusinal: is there no ping timeout on this server? or does someone actually just have my nick here:/

[03:22 PM] xvs: ping timeout in 83894368923645918345 secs

[03:23 PM] mpikeat2002: lol

[03:23 PM] mpikeat2002: whats everyone delving into with the arg right now?

[03:23 PM] Delusinal: ahh makes pefect sence than.

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[03:23 PM] mpikeat2002: everyone too caught up listening to me I'm not?

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[03:24 PM] Delusinal: i'm not sure what we are supposed to do with this right now. wait?

[03:24 PM] xvs: listen to "me, i'm not":))

[03:24 PM] TR_Rulz_Numbr1: I need to look over the us wiretap stuff...

[03:24 PM] P-Frank: yeah

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[03:24 PM] P-Frank: honestly i wish i had some network tools

[03:24 PM] P-Frank: i'd be checking every site thats on rackspace

[03:24 PM] P-Frank: :)

[03:24 PM] TR_Rulz_Numbr1: most of them you can download

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[03:24 PM] rue: Dun spoil the game by exploiting

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[03:25 PM] Delusinal: wasn't the last site registered the day it was released?

[03:25 PM] Delusinal: I thought they did that to prevent what you are suggesting.

[03:25 PM] Delusinal: and what happened at the very begining.

[03:26 PM] SoundlyAsleep: the last page registered i think was the 14th

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[03:26 PM] P-Frank: it was registered on the 14th yes

[03:26 PM] Delusinal: ok a bit before the release

[03:26 PM] P-Frank: Delusinal: a week before

[03:26 PM] SoundlyAsleep: yes

[03:26 PM] P-Frank: so there ARE sites out there

[03:26 PM] xvs: anyway it can take 1hr to make a site working

[03:26 PM] P-Frank: we just dont know them

[03:27 PM] SoundlyAsleep: what are we doing here then?!

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[03:27 PM] Delusinal: i'm just trying to discourage using any kind of "tricks" to find them. it ruins the fun.

[03:27 PM] aychseven-smoke: then what about deadcop-opal.com? not related?

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[03:27 PM] Delusinal: related never coming on line.

[03:27 PM] Delusinal: we found it to soon.

[03:27 PM] torrefaction_: We'll see

[03:28 PM] P-Frank: its the only name that has a hyphen in it

[03:28 PM] torrefaction_: should be kept under possibly related

[03:28 PM] Delusinal: it's in the same IP block

[03:28 PM] P-Frank: deadcop-opal isnt

[03:28 PM] P-Frank: its on godaddy

[03:28 PM] Delusinal: it was found with the other sites.

[03:28 PM] Delusinal: i thought it was.

[03:28 PM] P-Frank: it was found by looking through domain records

[03:28 PM] TR_Rulz_Numbr1: delusinal, you think its cheating to use ARG tools?

[03:29 PM] Delusinal: what's an "ARG tool"

[03:29 PM] P-Frank: if we find the sites

[03:29 PM] P-Frank: we've done it right

[03:29 PM] iantm: a guy on soulseek named "masterpenguin" has a dir for year zero with appropriate songtitles and filesizes, not in the format of the riaa bots

[03:29 PM] MERZBAU: AHAHAHAHAH

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[03:29 PM] iantm: a line of 260 people waiting

[03:29 PM] P-Frank: iantm: fakes fakes fakes

[03:29 PM] P-Frank: we hit these jerks yesterday

[03:29 PM] iantm: they're not in the format of the normal fakes

[03:29 PM] iantm: that's all i'm saying

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[03:30 PM] iantm: i have a history of bringing credible shit to the ets crew and having to deal with hours of "fake" haha

[03:30 PM] Delusinal: about time

[03:30 PM] iantm: this is a running motif with me

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[03:31 PM] iantm: this is probably a fakeout though, i think the guys in the industrial slsk chat are playing a trick

[03:31 PM] iantm: they're the only files this user has

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[03:31 PM] iantm: yes, haha this is the guy who did the same thing with with teeth

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[03:32 PM] Stinky-D: finally d/l a spectrogram program myself

[03:32 PM] Stinky-D: those images are wicked

[03:33 PM] Jugga: wher?

[03:33 PM] P-Frank: AWITHA TEETHAAA

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[03:34 PM] P-Frank: iantm: no i mean it was confirmed a fake yesterday

[03:34 PM] P-Frank: people downloaded it from that specific guy

[03:34 PM] Delusional: which one stinky? I have been looking for one.

[03:34 PM] iantm: p-frank yeah i get it

[03:34 PM] iantm: haha what were the songs

[03:35 PM] P-Frank: they say so in an ETS thread

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[03:35 PM] P-Frank: i didnt grab it myself

[03:35 PM] P-Frank: since i dont have time to sit in a 500 person (thats how long it was yesterday) long queue

[03:35 PM] iantm: agreed

[03:36 PM] Jubb: I want to spread my phone number across the internet in a spectrogram

[03:36 PM] Jubb: lol

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[03:38 PM] xvs: fuck, icq stuck

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[03:39 PM] maybeedeluxe: i need some help, i'm not familiar with these trackers, does it open, when i simply open the webside??? sorry, this is stupid :-(

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[03:41 PM] aychseven: que?

[03:41 PM] aychseven: you mean the g-talk tracker?

[03:41 PM] aychseven: or whatever jabber client?

[03:41 PM] torrefaction_: Man...i had no idea

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[03:41 PM] torrefaction_: I need to download Closure

[03:41 PM] TR_Rulz_Numbr1: haha

[03:41 PM] torrefaction_: oops

[03:41 PM] torrefaction_: wrong chan

[03:41 PM] TR_Rulz_Numbr1: I have it on vhs...

[03:42 PM] xvs: i have it in 2 mpg

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[03:42 PM] TR_Rulz_Numbr1: but afraid that the vcr will eat it up

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[03:42 PM] maybeedeluxe: yes, sorry it's completely new to me ;-)

[03:43 PM] aychseven: its a bot

[03:43 PM] aychseven: once you add it to your roster/friends whatever in g-talk or jabber client

[03:43 PM] aychseven: it will let you know when the sites change

[03:45 PM] SoundlyAsleep: I thought "2. Put your ETS nickname as your nickname" was praxis?

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[03:46 PM] iantm: #yearzero is turning lord of the flies

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[03:46 PM] aychseven: i dont think the tracker is working right though, i send the addme message and i get an error :(

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[03:50 PM] Jugga: any link to where i could find a spectrograph

[03:50 PM] `3kiLLLa: have you tried a simple google search?

[03:51 PM] `3kiLLLa: get spectrogram

[03:51 PM] iantm: spirographs are available at your local toys r' us

[03:51 PM] `3kiLLLa: (Link: http://www.visualizationsoftware.com/gram/programs/gram14_setup.exe)http://www.visualizationsoftware.com/gram/programs/gram14_setup.exe

[03:51 PM] aychseven: (Link: http://www.visualizationsoftware.com/gram.html)http://www.visualizationsoftware.com/gram.html

[03:51 PM] aychseven: jinx

[03:51 PM] aychseven: ;)

[03:52 PM] Jugga: thnx

[03:52 PM] iantm: by galoob

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[03:54 PM] vVdravenVv: hello everyone

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[03:54 PM] xvs: lo

[03:55 PM] vVdravenVv: how goes the arg today

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[03:56 PM] vVdravenVv: wow im completely ignored in spiral and repeatedly booted in #yearzero and apparently not faring much better in here

[03:56 PM] xvs: silently

[03:56 PM] vVdravenVv: i think i get the hint

[03:56 PM] mpikeat2002: ummm

[03:56 PM] rue: Well, now Bill Chapman is the AS and the guy who attacked the kids

[03:56 PM] KayCee: its nothing personal

[03:56 PM] mpikeat2002: well peopole in yearzero are just being idiots, thats why im trying to ignore it because its distracting

[03:56 PM] `3kiLLLa: why are you ignored in spiral?

[03:56 PM] heroicraptor: we're just fucking around in #yearzero

[03:56 PM] vVdravenVv: dunno

[03:56 PM] `3kiLLLa: you are not fucking around heroicraptor

[03:56 PM] `3kiLLLa: dont lie

[03:56 PM] `3kiLLLa: you hate them all

[03:57 PM] mpikeat2002: us wiretap time

[03:57 PM] vVdravenVv: was in there for a while sharing my good news and other tidbits and noone even noticed i was there

[03:57 PM] rue: Dun bring it here, please

[03:57 PM] vVdravenVv: anyway

[03:57 PM] `3kiLLLa: from what i hear spiral is kinda lame

[03:57 PM] vVdravenVv: any new leads that need following up on

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[03:57 PM] mpikeat2002: nothing since slaughthouse 5 and us wiretap..

[03:58 PM] mpikeat2002: thats what people working with right now I guess. not much to go on.

[03:58 PM] vVdravenVv: when is nin playing germany?

[03:58 PM] mpikeat2002: and the phone call

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[03:58 PM] vVdravenVv: though nothing became of the bilbo show did it

[03:58 PM] `3kiLLLa: nope

[03:58 PM] mpikeat2002: nope. That was just a stab in the dark.

[03:58 PM] `3kiLLLa: u know there was new shit last nite right?

[03:58 PM] mpikeat2002: so far we dont know shit of why hobbit or SH5 was in

[03:58 PM] vVdravenVv: yeah

[03:58 PM] ratrider: what was that number that we had to call?

[03:58 PM] `3kiLLLa: k

[03:59 PM] mpikeat2002: just call it

[03:59 PM] mpikeat2002: it's crazy

[03:59 PM] `3kiLLLa: 216-333-1810

[03:59 PM] vVdravenVv: i cant wait to hear audio from survivalism

[03:59 PM] rue: It could well be that we are not necessarily *meant* to 'crack' stuff, just follow along

[03:59 PM] `3kiLLLa: you havent heard survivalism yet?

[03:59 PM] vVdravenVv: not the live stuff

[03:59 PM] ratrider: im listening to it now its great

[03:59 PM] vVdravenVv: is it out?

[03:59 PM] mpikeat2002: the cd is

[03:59 PM] `3kiLLLa: i think htere was a link somewhere

[03:59 PM] mpikeat2002: cd quality version

[03:59 PM] iantm: oh yeah, i bet they're playing new stuff

[03:59 PM] vVdravenVv: of the show?

[03:59 PM] `3kiLLLa: of the live version

[03:59 PM] aychseven: no

[03:59 PM] mpikeat2002: oh, yes.

[03:59 PM] iantm: i wonder if any boots are around yet

[03:59 PM] mpikeat2002: sec

[03:59 PM] mpikeat2002: ill link it

[04:00 PM] vVdravenVv: im looking for a boot of when they played survivalism live

[04:00 PM] aychseven: ok i thought it was just the studio version...

[04:00 PM] vVdravenVv: not the cd version

[04:00 PM] vVdravenVv: which i already have

[04:00 PM] mpikeat2002: (Link: http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid507904948/bctid512940575)http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid507904948/bctid512940575

[04:00 PM] mpikeat2002: go to that link

[04:00 PM] Stinky-D: lol

[04:00 PM] mpikeat2002: survivalism live

[04:00 PM] Stinky-D: just created a wav file with my face in it

[04:00 PM] Stinky-D: computers are cool

[04:00 PM] mpikeat2002: good quality of survivalism live in barcelona:

[04:00 PM] mpikeat2002: (Link: http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid507904948/bctid512940575)http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid507904948/bctid512940575

[04:00 PM] iantm: haha trent's pretty funny

[04:01 PM] vVdravenVv: well now that ive finally found a place that isnt ignoring me or kicking me out i have to go to class :(

[04:01 PM] iantm: he could do stand up

[04:01 PM] mpikeat2002: i suggest watching that vid, draven... freakking awesome

[04:01 PM] vVdravenVv: im watching it now

[04:01 PM] vVdravenVv: i want the rest :) this is good quality

[04:01 PM] ratrider: holy crap this numbers crazy

[04:01 PM] iantm: is there a raw video of this to download

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[04:02 PM] vVdravenVv: who taped this? they did a great job

[04:02 PM] iantm: this looks like a spiral soundchecky-thing

[04:02 PM] iantm: preshow?

[04:02 PM] mpikeat2002: nope

[04:03 PM] iantm: looks like a relaxed smaller venue

[04:03 PM] mpikeat2002: reason why people arent going crazy obviously is because no one knows it

[04:03 PM] aychseven: lol all the people with phone cams

[04:03 PM] mpikeat2002: that was taped the day after survivalism was leaked...

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[04:03 PM] vVdravenVv: ok ill bbl

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[04:03 PM] mpikeat2002: and my guess is everyone was too busy getting ready to go to the show to learn it..

[04:04 PM] Stinky-D: nice video

[04:04 PM] mpikeat2002: that's how I was when they played Home for the first time live.. i was like wtf is this.

[04:04 PM] mpikeat2002: back at the 2005 club shows

[04:04 PM] rue: Ooh, someone cracked it again. The orange tears are pepper spray. *sigh*

[04:04 PM] heroicraptor: wut?

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[04:04 PM] heroicraptor: woa

[04:04 PM] yourexwife: huh?

[04:04 PM] BYTE-Smasher: link?

[04:04 PM] mpikeat2002: that'd be phat

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[04:05 PM] aychseven: doesnt explain coppery smell

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[04:05 PM] aychseven: and would add hot pepper smell

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[04:06 PM] rue: Really now?

[04:06 PM] mpikeat2002: is that what pepper smells like?

[04:07 PM] mpikeat2002: pepper spray? I never messed w it

[04:07 PM] rue: No, not at all.

[04:07 PM] `3kiLLLa: pepper spray doesnt smell anything like metal

[04:07 PM] rue: Yes, I was just pointing out the silly theory.

[04:07 PM] `3kiLLLa: and actually the capsacian within the pepper spray is a clear liquid....

[04:07 PM] mpikeat2002: not if it made your eyes bleed...

[04:07 PM] yourexwife: let's argue!

[04:07 PM] yourexwife: come on, guys!

[04:07 PM] yourexwife: yay!

[04:07 PM] KayCee: no

[04:07 PM] yourexwife: shut up.

[04:07 PM] mpikeat2002: exwife you could be a little more constructive

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[04:07 PM] TEH_PRESCENCEOMG: This is great. (the vid)

[04:08 PM] mpikeat2002: instead of adding pointless BS

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[04:08 PM] yourexwife: mpikeat2002, relax. i own the channel, and i'm the one organizing half the information.

[04:08 PM] yourexwife: i need a break

[04:08 PM] yourexwife: .

[04:08 PM] KayCee: Take the arguing over to #yearzero

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[04:08 PM] mpikeat2002: exactly

[04:08 PM] mpikeat2002: have your break in #yearzero, like you are already. It's cool that you're compiling the information..

[04:08 PM] KayCee: I've been kicked 30 times over there ><

[04:09 PM] aychseven: oh lord...

[04:09 PM] yourexwife: do you not realize that the whole "let's argue!" thing was sarcastic?

[04:09 PM] chanteneafk: yourexwife is myexwife

[04:09 PM] `3kiLLLa: merz is basically god, keep that in mind mpikeat2002

[04:09 PM] yourexwife: much like what rue said?

[04:09 PM] mpikeat2002: but i mean some people trying to understand things

[04:09 PM] mpikeat2002: of course i know it was sarcastic

[04:09 PM] mpikeat2002: but Ive seen enough of that shit in yearzero

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[04:09 PM] mpikeat2002: i thought this was the "on topic" chan

[04:09 PM] `3kiLLLa: ok ok shut up

[04:09 PM] `3kiLLLa: both of you

[04:09 PM] yourexwife: and this is -definitely- on-topic. :P

[04:09 PM] iantm: there's not much to be on topic about right now

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[04:09 PM] mpikeat2002: speculations count.

[04:10 PM] iantm: avenues to explore aren't coming as frequently as they did

[04:10 PM] Missmenchi: Hey hey peoples

[04:10 PM] mpikeat2002: hi

[04:10 PM] `3kiLLLa: yea this website hasnt given us anything except another piece to the story, but left out very huge pieces

[04:10 PM] aychseven: we are waiting on ze clues

[04:10 PM] Jugga: I am entitling the series "Year Zero" with a sidewise glance at the 1962 Ray Milland movie about America after a nuclear war,

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[04:10 PM] mpikeat2002: where?

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[04:11 PM] Missmenchi: so, what have I missed? Got up to that amazing new track being released and the website..

[04:11 PM] aychseven: thats it

[04:11 PM] Missmenchi: oh

[04:11 PM] Missmenchi: :( Nothing else on the site?

[04:11 PM] aychseven: well arguing about names on the phone message...

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[04:11 PM] Exit: is not the track enough!?!?

[04:11 PM] Missmenchi: lol

[04:11 PM] iantm: things move a little slower here in grover's corners

[04:11 PM] aychseven: you called the number right?

[04:12 PM] mpikeat2002: so what did Slanski say about a copper smell?

[04:12 PM] mpikeat2002: im gonna have to go through that interview some more

[04:12 PM] Missmenchi: I can't call it cos I'm in the UK and can't afford such luxoury but I downloaded it so all is good.

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[04:13 PM] Missmenchi: Oh, what happened with that guy going to the star press thing? Did he even return?

[04:15 PM] mpikeat2002: so orange tears. Pepper spray was a random suggestion of course.. pepper spray may react w/ the skin to put off copper smell?

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[04:16 PM] mpikeat2002: pepper spray actually does look orange... being sprayed

[04:16 PM] Jugga: new effort is a concept album and "part of a bigger picture of a number of things I'm working on. Essentially I wrote the soundtrack to a movie that doesn't exist."

[04:16 PM] mpikeat2002: maybe it's MACE that's a different color

[04:16 PM] rue: *sigh* I am sorry, I unleashed the evil of Stupid Theories

[04:16 PM] aychseven: lol

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[04:17 PM] aychseven: thanks jugga for the old info ;)

[04:17 PM] mpikeat2002: why is it a stupid theory? Isn't this nearly boundless?

[04:17 PM] mpikeat2002: we have nothing to go on

[04:17 PM] Jugga: lol

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[04:18 PM] aychseven: mpikeat, think on something different. how about why were these people locked in by the police, and then a decon unit sent in 2 days afterwards with bunny suits

[04:18 PM] aychseven: while the cops outside had no protection

[04:18 PM] aychseven: and neither did the female agent (assuming)

[04:18 PM] chantene: they might've found something inside

[04:18 PM] Jugga: there was already a year zero album?

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[04:20 PM] mpikeat2002: the people were being killed by terrorists

[04:20 PM] mpikeat2002: the 112 people

[04:21 PM] mpikeat2002: well, "alleged" terrorist action.

[04:21 PM] chantene: bioterrorists

[04:21 PM] aychseven: "everyone's got it"

[04:21 PM] mpikeat2002: bioterrorists? That doesnt explain them being "HUNTED"

[04:21 PM] mpikeat2002: hunted down over a course of two days

[04:21 PM] mpikeat2002: within the nightclub

[04:21 PM] chantene: maybe these people had some kind of bio weapon

[04:21 PM] chantene: i dunno

[04:21 PM] chantene: im just talking

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[04:22 PM] rue: We cannot discount that yet, definitely. But also definitely it was not airborne

[04:22 PM] aychseven: yep

[04:22 PM] rue: Perhaps spreads through touch or fluids

[04:22 PM] chantene: maybe they had to hunt them down to inject the,??

[04:22 PM] mpikeat2002: decon unit.

[04:22 PM] chantene: them*

[04:23 PM] aychseven: naw she said they were hunted down and torn to bloody pieces

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[04:23 PM] mpikeat2002: Slanski called it a "decon unit" so obviously he knew it was something contaminated inside.

[04:23 PM] chantene: yeah...

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[04:24 PM] rue: That may indicate that it was a very large space if people were able to hide for days

[04:24 PM] mpikeat2002: he was just trying to withold information in the interview

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[04:24 PM] aychseven: see now you're stating speculation as if its fact

[04:24 PM] chantene: wait, how do we KNOW it wasn't airborne?

[04:24 PM] aychseven: because they let the cop go home

[04:24 PM] psicom: was it like that one episode of 3's company where jack is trapped inside a meat locker

[04:24 PM] aychseven: then called him back 2 days

[04:24 PM] rue: Because you cannot effectively seal a building like that

[04:25 PM] chantene: outside. maybe they didn;t realize at first??

[04:25 PM] aychseven: then why did they lock the people in?

[04:25 PM] chantene: yeah, but maybe they didn't realize it at first?

[04:25 PM] mpikeat2002: contamination.

[04:25 PM] chantene: and "quaratine" tape

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[04:25 PM] aychseven: they sure as hell realized something enough to lock people in

[04:25 PM] rue: chantene: Then probably a *lot* of people would have gotten sick

[04:25 PM] aychseven: the big question is why they waited 2 days for a decon unit

[04:26 PM] mpikeat2002: so everyone would die off?

[04:26 PM] Hacbarton: Any idea what they would've gotten sick with?

[04:26 PM] mpikeat2002: and they burn the corpses?

[04:26 PM] chantene: maybe the contaminant has a low half-life?

[04:26 PM] mpikeat2002: with flamethroweres?

[04:26 PM] Hacbarton: "Blood coming out of my skin"

[04:26 PM] chantene: if the half-life of the contaminant is short, it would not affect everyone as quickly or as many people

[04:26 PM] chantene: just a thought

[04:26 PM] yourexwife: did you guys see achamoth's little "review" of the situation?

[04:26 PM] yourexwife: it helps summarize it.

[04:26 PM] Hacbarton: Wait.....these people were hiding because they didn't take parepin, right?

[04:26 PM] yourexwife: it's definitely worth reading!

[04:27 PM] chantene: have a link merz?

[04:27 PM] yourexwife: no, no. they were simply at a club, dancing. or something.

[04:27 PM] yourexwife: yeah! one second.

[04:27 PM] aychseven: normally in any type of outbreak scenario, decon steps in quickly

[04:27 PM] aerith099: I think the orange tears are an interesting slant.

[04:27 PM] yourexwife: REQUIRED READING FOR EVERONE:

[04:27 PM] yourexwife: (Link: http://echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=828551&sid=96cf0a7822d7d55b7dbdd3c312970499#828551)http://echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=828551&sid=96cf0a7822d7d55b7dbdd3c312970499#828551

[04:27 PM] yourexwife: ACHAMOTH'S POST.

[04:27 PM] chantene: maybe decon knew that whatever the contaminant was would permeate their suits until a given period of time?

[04:27 PM] chantene: thanks, merz

[04:27 PM] mpikeat2002: aychseven, what if they knew the people inside wouldnt live?

[04:27 PM] Hacbarton: OK, the whole thing seems confusing

[04:27 PM] chippy: not flamethrowers, but flameflower type objects, like tanks and sprays

[04:28 PM] Hacbarton: yourexwife: thnx

[04:29 PM] chantene: i agree with achamoth 100 percent

[04:29 PM] Hacbarton: OK, it seems pretty simple

[04:29 PM] yourexwife: it's a great little summary.

[04:30 PM] yourexwife: remind me to add it to my post later.

[04:30 PM] chantene: as it is exactly what i was proposing earlier

[04:30 PM] chantene: lol

[04:30 PM] chantene: will do merz

[04:30 PM] mpikeat2002: okay

[04:30 PM] mpikeat2002: im thinking this.

[04:30 PM] Hacbarton: Since people not taking parepin are the only ones who would be hurt by a chemical attack...

[04:30 PM] Hacbarton: All the Administration has to do is launch chemical attacks to kill those who are not obedient

[04:30 PM] rue: It may be *obviously* some kind of an infection but it does not mean it is the correct explanation

[04:30 PM] aychseven: the one part that i'm unsure of is was the female agent wearing a bunny suit or not

[04:31 PM] mpikeat2002: what if its not an infection?

[04:31 PM] mpikeat2002: what if its a dormant side-effect?

[04:31 PM] mpikeat2002: like HIV to AIDS

[04:31 PM] Missmenchi: Unless they found something that can out do the pearpin

[04:31 PM] mpikeat2002: parepin.

[04:31 PM] Hacbarton: But the people taking Parepin are already obedient

[04:31 PM] chantene: or the parepin doesn't actually work

[04:31 PM] Missmenchi: or parepin.. :D

[04:31 PM] Hacbarton: so why even attack

[04:31 PM] Hacbarton: ?

[04:32 PM] Missmenchi: Lab rats?

[04:32 PM] chantene: ??

[04:32 PM] mpikeat2002: maybe knife guy was going crazy from the parepin. The knife guy was a guinea pig, the first one. I dont know. Just thoughts.

[04:32 PM] Hacbarton: They attack to eliminate the non-obedient

[04:32 PM] Hacbarton: Its perfect

[04:32 PM] aychseven: this is long after parepin was introduced into the water

[04:32 PM] Hacbarton: Perhaps the knife guy was issuing mercy killings

[04:32 PM] aychseven: if that was going to make someone go crazy tiw ould have by now

[04:32 PM] chantene: hmmm

[04:32 PM] mpikeat2002: Yes, aychseven. What if its just now starting to take effect

[04:33 PM] chantene: interesting ,hac

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[04:33 PM] Hacbarton: He knew the attack was launched, perhaps, and didn't want them to die from slow death

[04:33 PM] Hacbarton: some* instead of from

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[04:33 PM] Hacbarton: H already was bleeding

[04:33 PM] Hacbarton: He*

[04:33 PM] mpikeat2002: What I'm wondering, is what causes everyone else to start bleeding.

[04:34 PM] mpikeat2002: like Mia.

[04:34 PM] aychseven: "it"

[04:34 PM] Hacbarton: The Admin launched a chemical attack (thats my best geuss)

[04:34 PM] mpikeat2002: parepin.

[04:34 PM] mpikeat2002: oh.

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[04:34 PM] chantene: i think it was airborne

[04:34 PM] chippy: contaminated blood, seeps out into air, infects by air?

[04:34 PM] mpikeat2002: By "it" i keep thinking of parepin. What's already in their blood.

[04:34 PM] mpikeat2002: parepin is in everyones blood

[04:35 PM] mpikeat2002: "most" peoples blood at least.

[04:35 PM] yourexwife: not everyone's.

[04:35 PM] aychseven: airborne doesnt make sense. everyone would be fucked if it was airborne

[04:35 PM] yourexwife: yeah.

[04:35 PM] Hacbarton: I KNOW ive heard of such a chemical, where blood is forced out of the skin

[04:35 PM] mpikeat2002: airborne transmission is possible, but what if its the CATALYST that is airborn

[04:35 PM] mpikeat2002: the parepin in the blood, reacts with the catalyst in the air. To cause people to start bleeding. Once again, speculation.

[04:35 PM] Hacbarton: I have to look into it

[04:35 PM] Hacbarton: Why is this room lagging so much?

[04:35 PM] chantene: maybe

[04:36 PM] chantene: dunno

[04:36 PM] aychseven: mpikeat then why didnt the cops and regular citizens in the area start bleeding too?

[04:36 PM] chantene: like i said, the half-life would prevent some people from catching it

[04:36 PM] mpikeat2002: im just trying to come up with ideas, to get my brain rolling

[04:36 PM] Hacbarton: bunny suits

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[04:36 PM] aychseven: this is why i say airborne doesnt make sense

[04:36 PM] chantene: like the people outside

[04:36 PM] aychseven: but what about the feds that where there first

[04:36 PM] Hacbarton: The club was in some basement, right?

[04:36 PM] mpikeat2002: just suggestions, just trying to find the right direction to head in.

[04:37 PM] aychseven: hac yes

[04:37 PM] aychseven: basement of newspaper building

[04:37 PM] mpikeat2002: aychseven, maybe it was released in the club through ventilation system.

[04:37 PM] aychseven: where the printing presses used to be

[04:37 PM] Hacbarton: Then they probably pumped it into the room

[04:37 PM] chantene: let's say it was released inside...the feds stayed outside...some time release capsule or something did it. half-life= people in the area catch it

[04:37 PM] mpikeat2002: yes.

[04:37 PM] mpikeat2002: hac

[04:37 PM] chantene: or pumped into the room

[04:37 PM] mpikeat2002: thats what I was trying to suggest when i mentioned catalyst being released into the air.

[04:37 PM] aychseven: BUT

[04:37 PM] aychseven: nothing started

[04:37 PM] mpikeat2002: controlled release

[04:37 PM] aychseven: until the guy showed up

[04:37 PM] Hacbarton: Im with chantene....sounds like a half-life issue (I knew all that crap in Biology would help someday)

[04:37 PM] mpikeat2002: but the feds were already there right aych?

[04:37 PM] chantene: maybe he set off something...was forced to

[04:38 PM] chantene: yay, hac

[04:38 PM] mpikeat2002: I think the feds let the air into the room.

[04:38 PM] chantene: he started killing people out of guilt

[04:38 PM] aychseven: i think HE was the infected thing and the feds put him in there

[04:38 PM] chantene: knew that they would tie a terrible death, but he was forced to do it

[04:38 PM] aychseven: he was crazy

[04:38 PM] mpikeat2002: yers

[04:38 PM] mpikeat2002: yes

[04:38 PM] mpikeat2002: but maybe he was just a red pill taker

[04:38 PM] aychseven: that doesnt make sense

[04:38 PM] mpikeat2002: but why did they put him down there

[04:38 PM] aychseven: whens the last time sex made you scream and all fucking wacked out?

[04:39 PM] chantene: maybe leaders of the resistance were there

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[04:39 PM] chantene: maybe they had to take out a lot of people jsut to get a few?

[04:39 PM] chantene: doesn't seem beyond them

[04:39 PM] mpikeat2002: haha aych im not providing the solution, everything I'm saying should of course be taken with grains of salt

[04:39 PM] chantene: considering the administration

[04:39 PM] rue: I am not buying into airborne. They do not have sufficient guarantees of it not spreading unless the substance has a life counted in minutes

[04:39 PM] aychseven: thank you

[04:39 PM] chantene: half-life

[04:39 PM] Jugga: why did SLANSKI not mean to see the orange tears?

[04:40 PM] chantene: it WOULD have a life counted in minutes

[04:40 PM] chantene: it's bio

[04:40 PM] chantene: an isotope can die out

[04:40 PM] mpikeat2002: The government is controlling the situation.

[04:40 PM] chantene: if its unstable

[04:40 PM] rue: That would have very limited usage though

[04:40 PM] chantene: maybe, but it could get the job done

[04:40 PM] mpikeat2002: Slanski may not want the feds to KNOW that he knows. So that he wont be eliminated.

[04:40 PM] rue: You cannot drop it from airplanes etc.

[04:40 PM] aychseven: too late now

[04:40 PM] chantene: exactly mpikeat

[04:40 PM] mpikeat2002: And maybe the orange tears are an infected FED

[04:41 PM] chantene: well, you can also adopt isotopoes top be more stable

[04:41 PM] chantene: isotopes*

[04:41 PM] rue: Ockham

[04:41 PM] chantene: ockham= airborne, imo

[04:41 PM] Jugga: the feds new tho

[04:41 PM] chantene: i am working with that

[04:41 PM] mpikeat2002: and they dont want him to know that an infected fed was released. Maybe this is leading to a pandemic, beginning of the end.

[04:41 PM] mpikeat2002: haha I'm throwing all these wild ideas out there

[04:42 PM] rue: Why would they try to hush-hush it? I would think they like the new world

[04:42 PM] mpikeat2002: maybe keeping it quiet is the only way to do it until it's ensured that it will control the world.

[04:42 PM] mpikeat2002: insured*

[04:42 PM] rue: chantene: Ocham says fluids or touch because we need less conjecture for that given the environ in which this happened

[04:42 PM] Hacbarton: Im out for dinner, back soon

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[04:42 PM] mpikeat2002: they want the people to trust the government.

[04:42 PM] mpikeat2002: until they have complete control of the situation

[04:43 PM] chantene: true, but why would Mia, who wasn't touched be bleeding?

[04:43 PM] chantene: unless it was airborne??

[04:43 PM] aychseven: transfer of fluid

[04:43 PM] aychseven: blood

[04:43 PM] rue: She was pretty close to the action

[04:43 PM] aychseven: she saw the guy stabbing

[04:43 PM] aychseven: and covered in blood

[04:43 PM] rue: And again, I am not /ruling out/ airborne, just that I find it less likely

[04:43 PM] rue: On the other hand, I am not even convinced there WAS a contamination/infection

[04:43 PM] mpikeat2002: I think it has something to do with the parepin, because that's where it all started.

[04:44 PM] rue: Not Everything Is Connected :)

[04:44 PM] mpikeat2002: of course not

[04:44 PM] chantene: so, then the people were systematically hunted down, and touched??...possible i guess

[04:44 PM] mpikeat2002: The only reason I think there was a contamination is because people like Mia just started bleeding out of no where

[04:44 PM] chantene: same

[04:44 PM] mpikeat2002: And the fact that Slanski said something about "DECON"

[04:44 PM] rue: I am actually not even certain the agent actually *had* tears in her eyes

[04:44 PM] chantene: yup

[04:44 PM] chantene: and the hazmat suits

[04:44 PM] rue: Much less orange ones.

[04:45 PM] aychseven: yeah thats the other side :(

[04:45 PM] mpikeat2002: Maybe they werent tears at all.

[04:45 PM] aychseven: maybe slanski is fucked

[04:45 PM] rue: We are not sure if Mia started bleeding, are we? She seemed to *think* she was

[04:45 PM] mpikeat2002: Maybe slanski just thought they were tears.

[04:45 PM] mpikeat2002: I dont think Slanski got let go.

[04:45 PM] mpikeat2002: There had to be a catch.

[04:45 PM] rue: chantene: The hazmat suits would be used in any of the three forms of spreading

[04:46 PM] mpikeat2002: The agent ended the conversation with "I'm sorry"

[04:46 PM] Jugga: he said she was crying tho

[04:46 PM] chantene: true

[04:46 PM] mpikeat2002: Jugga, he said she was crying. But maybe he saw it wrong. Maybe she was just whimpering in pain, and the orange liquid was not a tear at all but rather something else.

[04:46 PM] Jugga: yea

[04:47 PM] aychseven: SLANSKI

[04:47 PM] chantene: like you, i am of course not ruling out fluid/touch contamination. but i like the idea of half-life's and stuff haha

[04:47 PM] aychseven: She was crying.

[04:47 PM] aychseven:

[04:47 PM] aychseven: AGENT SIKES

[04:47 PM] aychseven: But that wasnâ€™t the strange part.

[04:47 PM] aychseven:

[04:47 PM] aychseven: SLANSKI

[04:47 PM] aychseven: And her tears were orange.

[04:47 PM] aychseven:

[04:47 PM] aychseven: AGENT SIKES

[04:47 PM] aychseven: Thatâ€™s right, they were.

[04:47 PM] aychseven:

[04:47 PM] aychseven: SLANSKI

[04:47 PM] aychseven: I didnâ€™t mean to see that!

[04:47 PM] aychseven:

[04:47 PM] aychseven: AGENT SIKES

[04:47 PM] aychseven: I know.

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[04:47 PM] aychseven: And, Iâ€™m sorry.

[04:47 PM] aychseven: oops

[04:47 PM] mpikeat2002: is it proven that Slanski was LET go?

[04:48 PM] mpikeat2002: My thoughts are that Slanski was killed right after, but I have nothing to prove it.

[04:48 PM] chantene: very possible

[04:48 PM] aychseven: nothing either way

[04:48 PM] mpikeat2002: Slanksi knows everything. The Agent knows that Slanski knows.

[04:48 PM] rue: He could have been let go. The text was clearly intended to give the air of elimination

[04:48 PM] mpikeat2002: Agent doesnt want Slanski to know.

[04:49 PM] mpikeat2002: So he apologizes.

[04:49 PM] mpikeat2002: But he knows he has to kill Slanski?

[04:49 PM] aychseven: he doesnt apologize

[04:49 PM] aychseven: the agent does

[04:49 PM] chantene: so the agent leaves, but is contaminated...this is bad news for everyone else... maybe?

[04:49 PM] mpikeat2002: thats what i mean

[04:49 PM] chantene: which is why it's not good that he knows

[04:49 PM] rue: But Slanski seems to know something about what he is not supposed to know

[04:49 PM] mpikeat2002: Agent apologizes to slanski. Sort of maybe like "Sorry, but I have to do this" /pullstrigger

[04:49 PM] aychseven: rue: exactly

[04:49 PM] mpikeat2002: yes.

[04:50 PM] Jugga: maybe slanski knew the person?

[04:50 PM] aychseven: and then theres the question of the only two agents mentioned being female. possible coincidence, but...

[04:50 PM] rue: Either that seeing orange tears means you are not doing something right or (more likely) that they indicate something about the other person

[04:50 PM] rue: He was not so much *surprised* about the orange tears

[04:50 PM] mpikeat2002: I think..

[04:50 PM] chantene: well. i will say that regardless of method, i am on board with the contamination theory...

[04:51 PM] chantene: yeah, he seemed sad about the orange tears...or guilty

[04:51 PM] mpikeat2002: Slanski knew what the feds were doing. He wasn't supposed to know though. The feds have something going on.

[04:51 PM] chantene: the feds are aliens with orange tears

[04:51 PM] mpikeat2002: that no one is supposed to know

[04:51 PM] rue: But none of the other sites reference this whatever is going on with the feds

[04:51 PM] chantene: not yet...

[04:51 PM] rue: No aliens, no robots, no lizardfolk

[04:51 PM] chantene: haha

[04:51 PM] mpikeat2002: chantene: I think this has alot less to do with aliens than government conspiracy.

[04:52 PM] rue: You might think that AVOTT for example would mention something like that

[04:52 PM] mpikeat2002: and the downfall of the world

[04:52 PM] mpikeat2002: err nation

[04:52 PM] chantene: lol, ya i was totally joking

[04:52 PM] chantene: unless it was still kept covered up...

[04:52 PM] rue: So we have two questions: A) what is it that he knows and B) WHY/HOW does he know of it?

[04:52 PM] chantene: they posted 3 days after the incident

[04:52 PM] aychseven: and no mention

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[04:53 PM] mpikeat2002: rue, yes

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[04:53 PM] mpikeat2002: He knows everything.

[04:53 PM] mpikeat2002: Agent knows it.

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[04:53 PM] aychseven: he who? i think you're missing a detail mpikeat

[04:53 PM] mpikeat2002: Slanski knows enough to know what the federal government is doing.

[04:53 PM] aychseven: agent skies is female

[04:54 PM] rue: Mm, I doubt Slanski knows much

[04:54 PM] chantene: i agree, rue

[04:54 PM] Jugga: what i dont under stand is agent skies is like yeah there was another person

[04:54 PM] rue: It may just be an indication that he has been talking to resistance people?

[04:54 PM] mpikeat2002: From the beginning of the interview, I gathered to my perception that Slanski knows alot. He's just trying to withold as much information as possible to keep his family safe.

[04:54 PM] chantene: he saw the orange tears and he was NOT supposed to see that...so he's terminated

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[04:54 PM] Jugga: SLANSKI lie you same badgers

[04:54 PM] chantene: ?

[04:55 PM] rue: He clearly is aware of *something*

[04:55 PM] Jugga: then he is like no like me

[04:55 PM] rue: chantene: Heh, if it turns out to be either aliens, reptiles, robots or a time warp, I am not buying the album :P

[04:55 PM] aychseven: lol

[04:56 PM] aychseven: if he wasn't supposed to see it why was he so close to her?

[04:56 PM] chantene: lol...i agree

[04:56 PM] chantene: in fact, i am protesting it

[04:56 PM] mpikeat2002: Slanski says "I'm trying to guess how much you know already."

[04:56 PM] chantene: implying they know he saw the tears

[04:56 PM] Jugga: Jeff is his first name.? SLANSKI

[04:56 PM] chantene: and they're just trying to get anything else out of him

[04:56 PM] chantene: before they off him

[04:56 PM] mpikeat2002: But he knows what the tears mean, or else he wouldnt be trying to withhold info.

[04:57 PM] mpikeat2002: he knows they mean SOMETHING

[04:57 PM] aychseven: if they were planning to off him, who gives a fuck what he knows.

[04:57 PM] rue: Right, he knows they are significant in some way

[04:57 PM] aychseven: it think it would matter more who he told and they never say anything about that

[04:57 PM] mpikeat2002: I dont think they were planning to off him.

[04:57 PM] aychseven: agent doesnt ask

[04:57 PM] mpikeat2002: They were only planning to off him if he knew enough detrimental information to the federal government.

[04:57 PM] mpikeat2002: that's my thought anyway

[04:57 PM] chantene: yeah, maybe he contacted some resistance members?

[04:58 PM] aychseven: or he was part...

[04:58 PM] chantene: does his name have any possible links on the avott forum?? like in the blurred part at the bottom?

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[08:19 AM] severthestars: fucking university dsl.

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[08:24 AM] slv: what are "bunny suits" ?

[08:24 AM] slv: that the terrorists are wearing

[08:24 AM] lemmer: hazmat

[08:25 AM] chippy: 1) bunny suits are like jump suits, all in one protective clothing

[08:25 AM] mranachronism: (Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleanroom_suit)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleanroom_suit

[08:25 AM] cynicmuse: biohazard suits

[08:25 AM] chippy: 2) they arent terrorists, they are feds

[08:25 AM] slv: no chippy

[08:25 AM] slv: on the 105th page

[08:25 AM] chippy: ahh

[08:25 AM] slv: they reference the enemy wearing bunny suits

[08:25 AM] lemmer: oh, they're cleanroom suits?

[08:25 AM] lemmer: hahaha

[08:25 AM] slv: are they?

[08:25 AM] slv: i don't think they are, that wouldn't make sense

[08:25 AM] chippy: pretty much

[08:25 AM] mranachronism: go to that wiki page

[08:25 AM] lemmer: i never heard that used in my time spent working in the factory

[08:25 AM] slv: why would terrorists in a battle be wearing bunny suits

[08:26 AM] lemmer: feds

[08:26 AM] lemmer: or no

[08:26 AM] lemmer: wait

[08:26 AM] chippy: like (Link: http://www.greenpeace.nl/raw/image_big_teaser/photosvideos/photos/greenpeace-nederland-heeft-bij)http://www.greenpeace.nl/raw/image_big_teaser/photosvideos/photos/greenpeace-nederland-heeft-bij

[08:26 AM] slv:

[08:26 AM] slv: Iâ€™ve received a lot of letter

[08:26 AM] slv: are a few of the stand-outs, reprinted with permission of the author and state

[08:26 AM] slv: sanction.

[08:26 AM] slv: First night on the ground after the Iran decap stri

[08:26 AM] slv: night FISH, what we called â€œgoing skatingâ€ on acco

[08:26 AM] slv: There was still some enemy but since most of them didnâ€™t have bunny suits, their

[08:26 AM] slv: evil was starting to shine throu

[08:26 AM] slv: had your back and God had his so we were in good shape.

[08:26 AM] slv: Iâ€™ve received a lot of letters over the years that the 105th has been stood up. Below

[08:26 AM] slv: are a few of the stand-outs, reprinted with permission of the author and state

[08:26 AM] slv: sanction.

[08:26 AM] slv: First night on the ground after the Iran decap strike, Lt tagged the section for

[08:26 AM] slv: night FISH, what we called â€œgoing skatingâ€ on account of all the nuked sand-glass.

[08:26 AM] slv: There was still some enemy but since most of them didnâ€™t have bunny suits, their

[08:26 AM] slv: evil was starting to shine through. The section was a good bunch of boys. Buddy

[08:26 AM] slv: had your back and God had his so we were in good shape.

[08:26 AM] slv: ah sorry didn't mean to spam all that

[08:26 AM] slv: just the last couple of lines

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[08:27 AM] gtz_: slv: where is that from?

[08:28 AM] chippy: seems like they are talking about becuase the enemy didnt have anti-radiation suits, they were "shining" with radioactivity

[08:28 AM] slv: 105th page

[08:28 AM] slv: (Link: http://105thairbornecrusaders.com/memories.htm)http://105thairbornecrusaders.com/memories.htm

[08:28 AM] slv: it's unimportant, but "bunny suits" is also referenced i think on the anotherversionofthetruth forums, where cops take out a terrorist cell and they had "bunny suits"

[08:29 AM] gtz_: (Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunny_suit)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunny_suit

[08:30 AM] slv: hahahaha

[08:30 AM] slv: A costume that looks like a bunny rabbit

[08:30 AM] slv: wow, whodathunk

[08:30 AM] gtz_: that would be pretty cool

[08:30 AM] gtz_: nuclear warfae and people running around in bunny suits

[08:30 AM] gtz_: fre*

[08:31 AM] chippy: and on (Link: http://www.uswiretap.com/71839J/)http://www.uswiretap.com/71839J/ "Crowd control again. A bunch of guys in bunny suits went into the building with some very serious equipment. "

[08:31 AM] slv: yeah

[08:31 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Can any one say frank from donie darko lol.

[08:32 AM] gtz_: i was about to

[08:32 AM] mranachronism: heh, i always wanted to make that suit

[08:33 AM] lemmer: (Link: http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/violent.htm)http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/violent.htm so is there any significance to the backwards text on the bottom of this page?

[08:33 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: I think bunny siuetis just a nick name probly form the way they look mabey tubes and hoes coming out of the head pices gives it that bunny ears look.

[08:33 AM] cynicmuse: lemmer: that's part of the quote from the hobbit

[08:34 AM] yourexwife: bunny suit = radiation suit.

[08:34 AM] lemmer: i see

[08:34 AM] yourexwife: it's a slang name, kind of like pig = cop.

[08:34 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: But why bunny.

[08:35 AM] gtz_: i do think it's kinda funny that there is a star newspaper

[08:35 AM] yourexwife: i don't know, it's a word that's been used for years. :P

[08:35 AM] gtz_: in plano

[08:35 AM] gtz_: to boot

[08:36 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_suit thats why lol.

[08:37 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: U look up bunny suit and thats what u get well a link onther page then get that.

[08:38 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunny_suit is what u get.

[08:39 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: So trent didn make that up its a real thing, i was thinkin gmabey he disd some srt of hideen thing but nope guess not.

[08:39 AM] gtz_: i have no idea what you just said

[08:39 AM] mranachronism: no

[08:40 AM] mranachronism: grim: you do have some terrible typing; especially for a 28 year old.

[08:40 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Tr didn not make up the idea of the bunny suit, i thouhgt mabey he did to lead us some where but i guess not.

[08:40 AM] yourexwife: well, duh, i just told you that.

[08:40 AM] yourexwife: bunny suit is a common slang word for that kind of uniform.

[08:41 AM] mranachronism: no shit, plus those links have already been on here

[08:41 AM] yourexwife: it's not like the feds went in dressed up like A Christmas Story.

[08:41 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: I never heard of it before this arg.

[08:41 AM] yourexwife: so?

[08:41 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: So the term is new to me is all.

[08:41 AM] * mranachronism gives grim a cookie

[08:42 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: My humblest apologies.

[08:42 AM] yourexwife: i wants me some cookies.

[08:43 AM] * mranachronism gives yourexwife a box of cookies

[08:43 AM] * yourexwife throws them at some bitches.

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[08:45 AM] gtz_: sorry for being a lazy ass, but did this 105thwhatevermilitaryidiots site amount to any information so far?

[08:48 AM] slv: there's gotta be something in the medals page

[08:48 AM] slv: but we can't figure it out yet

[08:48 AM] slv: maybe if we get info on one of the campaigns for the medals

[08:48 AM] slv: that mgiht open something up

[08:48 AM] gtz_: i've been meddling with images for 30 minutes now

[08:48 AM] gtz_: there is this one 8px square

[08:48 AM] slv: yeah see, at this point it's mostly tyring to figure out htese goddamn dots and glitches

[08:48 AM] gtz_: that looks awfully lot lime bit-encoded info

[08:49 AM] gtz_: i reckon those are pass marks to fit the images together

[08:49 AM] gtz_: mostly

[08:49 AM] gtz_: are those called "pass marks" in englisch

[08:49 AM] gtz_: ?

[08:49 AM] slv: someone mentioned that on a lot of pages, those dots show up like keyframes from flash

[08:49 AM] gtz_: in german they are "passmarken"

[08:49 AM] gtz_: slv: yeah, the do

[08:50 AM] slv: maybe those are used to someone connect them

[08:50 AM] gtz_: but mostly because of the timeline display

[08:50 AM] gtz_: you know

[08:50 AM] slv: i haven't checked which pages specifically have those and whether or not they can be connected

[08:50 AM] slv: yeah

[08:50 AM] gtz_: sveraly layers arranged in a timeline

[08:50 AM] gtz_: man

[08:50 AM] slv: yeah exactly

[08:50 AM] slv: something like that

[08:50 AM] gtz_: english broken

[08:50 AM] slv: check the pages with the obvious keyframes

[08:50 AM] slv: and grab those images they're on

[08:50 AM] gtz_: i figured it was actaully a timeline display from protools

[08:50 AM] slv: and try placing them together... i'll do it in a bit

[08:50 AM] slv: AH! yeah dude

[08:50 AM] slv: that would make sense

[08:50 AM] slv: kind of

[08:50 AM] gtz_: or whatever sequencer they're using

[08:51 AM] gtz_: but i don't relly know audio software

[08:51 AM] gtz_: the frame-ish nature of the things might imply flash

[08:52 AM] slv: well it might just be a hint as to, look at the timeline

[08:52 AM] Rekurzia: couldnt the stripes on the medals represent morse code (again) ?

[08:53 AM] gtz_: might be

[08:53 AM] gtz_: i don't know any morse, alas

[08:53 AM] gtz_: except for sos

[08:54 AM] Rekurzia: neither do I

[08:54 AM] aaronr: Do the medals represent any actual medals that could be relevant?

[08:55 AM] aaronr: (How they'd be relevant, I have no idea.)

[08:56 AM] gtz_: in this wiretap thread over at ets, people seem bent on neglecting the obviously contageous nature of whatever is going on with the knifer at teh star chamber

[08:56 AM] gtz_: how's that`?

[08:56 AM] P-Frank: aaronr: dont know

[08:56 AM] P-Frank: i did weird shit with the medals

[08:56 AM] P-Frank: if you lay them on top of each other

[08:56 AM] P-Frank: they look fucking STRANGE

[08:57 AM] P-Frank: (Link: http://www.phonybone.co.nz/yearzero/30percent-reverseorder.gif)http://www.phonybone.co.nz/yearzero/30percent-reverseorder.gif

[08:58 AM] aaronr: gtz_: I get the impression the knifer was infected. Am I wrong?

[08:58 AM] gtz_: hmm

[08:58 AM] gtz_: that'S what i get

[08:58 AM] gtz_: but in this thread, peoply keep insisting there was no infection going on

[08:58 AM] gtz_: what with "blood out of my skin"

[08:58 AM] gtz_: and all

[08:58 AM] gtz_: that would be pretty euphemistic for "i'm being stabbed to death"

[08:59 AM] P-Frank: and the guy covered in blood

[08:59 AM] P-Frank: its likely his own

[08:59 AM] gtz_: although there would be blood coming out o f your skin

[08:59 AM] gtz_: technically#

[08:59 AM] aaronr: It's just that "and he was sweating blood"

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[08:59 AM] aaronr: He stabbed "Joey", whilst he was sweating blood himself.

[08:59 AM] aaronr: And then: "#

[08:59 AM] aaronr: # Mia: Roby, you there? Blood...there's blood coming out of my skin... "

[08:59 AM] gtz_: P-Frank: the medals look like some sort of marking on capcaitors and resistors

[08:59 AM] P-Frank: i think its very odd how they line up

[09:00 AM] P-Frank: i thought maybe that on top of each other

[09:00 AM] P-Frank: they could be morse code

[09:00 AM] P-Frank: or something

[09:00 AM] gtz_: i suppose that'S the idea behind those medal-type things

[09:00 AM] gtz_: in general, i mean

[09:00 AM] gtz_: in reality

[09:00 AM] gtz_: like

[09:00 AM] aaronr: medals are relatively standardised, iirc.

[09:00 AM] cynicmuse: the problem with an infection is that it'd have to have an incubation time of minutes

[09:00 AM] gtz_: but i don't know jack shit about any military crap

[09:01 AM] cynicmuse: where a chemical agent would make more sense

[09:01 AM] gtz_: cynicmuse: might be

[09:01 AM] gtz_: but it is contageous

[09:01 AM] gtz_: or maybe the agent is just spreading

[09:01 AM] aaronr: Possibly the knifer is the source of the agent.

[09:01 AM] P-Frank: something GAVE him the agent

[09:01 AM] cynicmuse: I'd say spreading. or they gave it to guy and had it in place in the club

[09:01 AM] P-Frank: somehow

[09:01 AM] P-Frank: and they knew what the agent was

[09:01 AM] aaronr: Suicide bio-attacker, of some sort.

[09:01 AM] P-Frank: or else they wouldnt have locked them in

[09:01 AM] gtz_: but the phrase "everyone'S got it" kinda implies an infection

[09:01 AM] cynicmuse: and let the guy withe knife be the fall guy

[09:02 AM] P-Frank: and how the fuck did knife guy know

[09:02 AM] P-Frank: to go down there?

[09:02 AM] P-Frank: this thing seemed to be at least SLIGHTLY underground

[09:02 AM] cynicmuse: I think that it was a set up

[09:02 AM] gtz_: i don't think this incident was staged

[09:02 AM] aaronr: Well if someone came in looking bad and then everyone else did, most people would jump to the conclusion of "something really infectious" before "bioattack"

[09:02 AM] cynicmuse: that the feds dumped him there

[09:02 AM] gtz_: the knifer got contaminated somehow

[09:02 AM] cynicmuse: the feds were there before the cops got there

[09:02 AM] gtz_: and went apeshit

[09:02 AM] aaronr: Yeah.

[09:02 AM] cynicmuse: which is odd, to say the least

[09:02 AM] mranachronism: angry sniper is trent. he'll be 56

[09:03 AM] mranachronism: jk

[09:03 AM] aaronr: But the whole orange tears thing.

[09:03 AM] gtz_: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=827520#827520)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=827520#827520

[09:03 AM] aaronr: I've been trying to find out information about that for a while, and I'm not getting hugely far.

[09:03 AM] gtz_: that does away with the orange tears rather well

[09:03 AM] gtz_: i think

[09:03 AM] aaronr: Hm.

[09:03 AM] gtz_: although i don't know if this is backed up by any info

[09:04 AM] aaronr: Alternatively: if parepin is designed to make the citizens more... tranquil, perhaps that's the opposite.

[09:04 AM] aaronr: Making feds more "alert".

[09:04 AM] aaronr: Or it could always be pure opal. ;)

[09:04 AM] gtz_: did anyone see this firefly movie?

[09:04 AM] gtz_: serenity?

[09:04 AM] aaronr: Yes.

[09:04 AM] gtz_: there was this planet where people were tranqualised

[09:04 AM] gtz_: to be perfect citizens

[09:04 AM] aaronr: Yeah

[09:04 AM] aaronr: And it backfired.

[09:05 AM] gtz_: on some of them it backfired

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[09:05 AM] gtz_: get my drift?

[09:05 AM] aaronr: yeah

[09:05 AM] gtz_: on the other hand

[09:06 AM] gtz_: there was this bleeding through skin and all, which would be rather drastic

[09:06 AM] gtz_: musta been somethign ales besides parepi

[09:06 AM] gtz_: n

[09:06 AM] gtz_: soemthing else*

[09:06 AM] gtz_: shit

[09:06 AM] aaronr: An idea I had the other day:

[09:06 AM] gtz_: my english is so broken

[09:07 AM] aaronr: The cop, Slanski. Underreported Freedom Act violations. Perhaps the feds started to distrust people in Slanski's district.

[09:07 AM] aaronr: So had them terminated.

[09:08 AM] aaronr: I'm thinking 1984-esque "Thought Police".

[09:08 AM] gtz_: well

[09:09 AM] gtz_: slanski apparently was not one of them thought police cops

[09:09 AM] gtz_: got along rather well with the sheep in his distrct

[09:10 AM] aaronr: Well, no, Slanski wasn't, thus the interview.

[09:10 AM] aaronr: I'm thinking the Feds were.

[09:10 AM] aaronr: They're "not FBI"

[09:10 AM] gtz_: huh?

[09:10 AM] gtz_: i was trying to say

[09:10 AM] gtz_: ah yeh

[09:10 AM] gtz_: i get you now

[09:10 AM] gtz_: carry on

[09:11 AM] gtz_: so

[09:11 AM] aaronr: "Thats not an FBI badge." // "No, its not. Officer Slanski"

[09:11 AM] gtz_: "the feds" were trying to take down this unregulated kinda subversive subculture

[09:11 AM] aaronr: If they're feds, but not FBI, who are they?

[09:12 AM] gtz_: they staged the bio-incident

[09:12 AM] aaronr: Surely cops would be familiar with most main law enforcement agencies.

[09:12 AM] cynicmuse: bureau of morality

[09:12 AM] aaronr: Yes, that's what I'm getting at. :)

[09:12 AM] gtz_: what i'm not getting is:

[09:12 AM] gtz_: why stage this?

[09:12 AM] gtz_: it's just a buncha punk kids in some cellar

[09:12 AM] aaronr: why take risks?

[09:12 AM] gtz_: go in, kill em, end of story

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[09:13 AM] gtz_: but maybe this whole staging and cover upping is just to portrait the mindset of the authorities

[09:14 AM] aaronr: Taking out the cop with the people was an interesting move.

[09:14 AM] aaronr: "I didn't mean to see that!" // "I know. And, I'm sorry.

[09:15 AM] aaronr: But why was she crying?

[09:15 AM] gtz_: you think they kiled him?

[09:15 AM] gtz_: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=827520#827520)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=827520#827520

[09:15 AM] gtz_: that'S why

[09:15 AM] gtz_: i wonder, why threaten his daughter

[09:15 AM] gtz_: and then off him?

[09:15 AM] gtz_: what's the point?

[09:16 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: To let him no ther going to take out his whole family.

[09:17 AM] aaronr: She was crying, she didn't just have watery eyes.

[09:17 AM] aaronr: Or at least, that's the impression I got.

[09:17 AM] gtz_: i didn't

[09:17 AM] aaronr: And they off'd him because he wasn't supposed to see those tears.

[09:17 AM] gtz_: he was talking about tears

[09:17 AM] gtz_: not crying

[09:17 AM] aaronr: AGENT SIK ES

[09:17 AM] aaronr: Jeff, I can't help you if you aren't 100 percent--

[09:17 AM] aaronr: SLANSKI

[09:17 AM] aaronr: She was crying.

[09:17 AM] gtz_: but they knew from the start he had seen the tears

[09:18 AM] gtz_: then they threaten his daughter

[09:18 AM] gtz_: then they off himi

[09:18 AM] gtz_: aaronr: ok

[09:18 AM] gtz_: so there was crying

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[09:19 AM] aaronr: 1) why was she crying? 2) what's the copper smell about?

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[09:19 AM] aaronr: I'm thinking they're linked.

[09:20 AM] aaronr: "Resin is a sticky substance that becomes yellow to orange and hard after is taken from trees. Right before resin concretes 'orange tears' run down the branches"

[09:20 AM] gtz_: in the thread i linked there's a cople of possible explanaitions for the copper thingy

[09:20 AM] * aaronr goes to read

[09:22 AM] gtz_: so, do you think the presence is actually a real physical thing, or some sort of image from the collective subconscious depicting a theme of oppression and "so fucking much bigger than me"?

[09:22 AM] aaronr: (By the way, the "goodbye" at the end of the message is the standard Asterisk "goodbye". If you call the number and hit * or a number, it'll take you to a menu. I don't think we're supposed to do that.)

[09:23 AM] aaronr: gtz_: I'm not sure. Part of me thinks it's about as real as Big Brother in 1984.

[09:23 AM] aaronr: Not real, but the government likes to scare/control/tame people with the thought that Big Brother's watching over them.

[09:23 AM] gtz_: i'm really not sure of this

[09:24 AM] gtz_: the presence being physical would sorta be prove that there is some sort of god

[09:24 AM] aaronr: But... I'm not sure. At first I thought it was something the government didn't want people to know about.

[09:24 AM] aaronr: But the Church of Plano seem to focus on it. And they're connected with the government.

[09:24 AM] gtz_: i'm going for the presence being a current in the collective unconscious

[09:24 AM] gtz_: btw

[09:24 AM] gtz_: there was this pricess mononoke anime movie

[09:25 AM] gtz_: when the forest god goes crazy at the end

[09:25 AM] gtz_: his liquid-y limbs sprouting all over the universe kinda look like that presence's arms

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[09:26 AM] workingclasshero: anyone got a second to give me an opinion on a thought?

[09:27 AM] gtz_: yeah

[09:27 AM] aaronr: hmm.

[09:27 AM] aaronr: interesting point, gtz_.

[09:27 AM] gtz_: what point?

[09:27 AM] gtz_: the forest god?

[09:27 AM] gtz_: that's was just a sidenote

[09:27 AM] gtz_: looks very similar is all

[09:28 AM] aaronr: [offtopic, you know you're on the internets when a search for "orange tears copper" in google turns up porn.)

[09:28 AM] workingclasshero: lll

[09:28 AM] workingclasshero: sorry thought coming

[09:29 AM] workingclasshero: i have been owrking on the location of the star chamber, thinking that it is located in Plano Texas, where the newspaper was printed

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[09:29 AM] workingclasshero: how important to you think this is, menaing how much work should i put into it?

[09:29 AM] gtz_: that would make sense

[09:30 AM] gtz_: as far as i recall, the incident was in texas, no?

[09:30 AM] workingclasshero: i think it is important, as it clears up the possibility that the cop might have been in illinois

[09:31 AM] workingclasshero: where the AS was

[09:32 AM] workingclasshero: maybe that had got cleared up, but at one time there was discussing of plano, IL being involved

[09:32 AM] gtz_: with the plano church, it kinda ties in that the incident woulda been placed there

[09:32 AM] workingclasshero: but do we have a firm location of the church?\

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[09:32 AM] gtz_: i don'T think so

[09:33 AM] workingclasshero: i do not think church of plano and the newspaper location being in plano are a coincidence

[09:33 AM] gtz_: no

[09:33 AM] gtz_: can't be

[09:34 AM] gtz_: not with the mentioning of this star thingy being an ex-newspaper

[09:34 AM] workingclasshero: there are some other address's that are still unknown, so i am going to search the area today, and look for other references

[09:34 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Do we know any one that lives in plano.

[09:34 AM] gtz_: for now i'd reckon it's safe to assume the bio incident happened in texas

[09:35 AM] gtz_: Mr_Grim_N_Evil: what fort?

[09:35 AM] gtz_: -t

[09:35 AM] workingclasshero: not me, but the waco thing interests me

[09:35 AM] gtz_: what? waco?

[09:35 AM] workingclasshero: maybe a connection, or a reference, little town i nTX, with a bunch or radicals

[09:36 AM] slv: star chamber is apparently a common reference

[09:36 AM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: I mean do we know any one playin galong that lives in this plano texas.

[09:36 AM] gtz_: yeah, i remember the waco ranch thing

[09:36 AM] workingclasshero: yes i read some history on that

[09:36 AM] gtz_: Mr_Grim_N_Evil: yeah, i was getting that

[09:36 AM] ZeroLux: any new discoveries?

[09:36 AM] slv: i'm assuming it's in a rural area. according the perepin page, they didn't dope some water supplies in rural areas

[09:37 AM] gtz_: so plano is not doped?

[09:37 AM] workingclasshero: doped? please explain

[09:37 AM] slv: they said some people from rural areas came to the cities and got sick

[09:37 AM] slv: from the perepin

[09:37 AM] slv: they point that out specifically

[09:38 AM] slv: you have to consider that hints that likely add up are probably coincidal

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[09:38 AM] gtz_: > you have to consider that hints that likely add up are probably coincidal

[09:38 AM] workingclasshero: i think that slanski patrol area was very doped, hense the lack of the violation of the freedom act, but i think these people at the chamber were off the parepin

[09:38 AM] gtz_: yould you rephraase that?

[09:38 AM] slv: i believe the star chamber is in an undoped town. that way they can test weapons (the virus and whatnot) on populations

[09:38 AM] slv: yeah sorry that was a bad wording

[09:38 AM] slv: anything that is pointed out without an obvious reason, if it ties into anything else even a bit, you have to relaly consider it

[09:39 AM] slv: because we have such limited information to work with

[09:40 AM] workingclasshero: i am going to keep thinking that the star courier location and the star chamber are the same, and work from there today

[09:40 AM] slv: it makes sense... if they can synthesize a supervirus that only effects those NOT taking perepin, they can have as many "fake terror attacks" as they want

[09:40 AM] slv: or fake "terror attacks"

[09:40 AM] slv: what's the star courier location

[09:41 AM] workingclasshero: in plano TX, ie: church of plano

[09:41 AM] slv: ahhh

[09:41 AM] slv: AHHH

[09:41 AM] workingclasshero: that is what i have found

[09:41 AM] slv: well... i'm skeptical of that though

[09:41 AM] slv: because the church of plano is all about having those squads patrolling

[09:41 AM] slv: i got the impression the town this is in is more laid back

[09:42 AM] workingclasshero: i think, like i said, that slanski's patrol was very laid back, these people did not fit there

[09:42 AM] workingclasshero: very doped

[09:42 AM] workingclasshero: very little crime there

[09:42 AM] gtz_: slv: in the interrogation they talk about patrouling civilians

[09:42 AM] slv: so you think they're VERY doped

[09:42 AM] slv: interesting

[09:42 AM] slv: so maybe the attack on the club has nothing to do with perepin

[09:42 AM] slv: maybe it's more opal or something

[09:43 AM] gtz_: only in slanski'S district there wasn't so much "crime"

[09:43 AM] gtz_: uh

[09:43 AM] gtz_: yea

[09:43 AM] gtz_: what hero said

[09:43 AM] workingclasshero: no violations of the FREEDOM act

[09:43 AM] gtz_: no REPORTED violations

[09:43 AM] workingclasshero: they did not speak out

[09:43 AM] gtz_: because slanski doesn'T mind

[09:43 AM] workingclasshero: but these out of towners were not from there

[09:44 AM] workingclasshero: i think they were rebels, and off the parepin

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[09:44 AM] gtz_: wait a second

[09:44 AM] gtz_: let's compress our talking of ht last hour into a couple of conmclusions

[09:45 AM] gtz_: a) the bio incident was staged by the authorities

[09:45 AM] gtz_: agree?

[09:45 AM] workingclasshero: i missed that discussion

[09:45 AM] gtz_: yeah

[09:45 AM] gtz_: well

[09:45 AM] gtz_: you can still agree :-9

[09:46 AM] workingclasshero: ok i agree

[09:46 AM] gtz_: fine :-)

[09:46 AM] gtz_: b) it was in fact a bio incident and not some drug induced rage fest

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[09:47 AM] workingclasshero: copper/orange tears....yes i would agree

[09:47 AM] gtz_: sweating blood and all

[09:47 AM] gtz_: c) slanski was not in line with offical police policy

[09:47 AM] slv: well... i don't know if i can agree with B yet

[09:47 AM] workingclasshero: he says he was a bad cop

[09:47 AM] gtz_: (not reporting freedom act violations)

[09:47 AM] slv: maybe it's one of those drugs the sniper talked about

[09:48 AM] slv: like frost

[09:48 AM] gtz_: but

[09:48 AM] slv: the reds and the blues

[09:48 AM] gtz_: "everyone'S got it"

[09:48 AM] slv: yeah this is true

[09:48 AM] gtz_: first there was the knife guy

[09:48 AM] gtz_: all bloody

[09:48 AM] slv: and mia never touched him

[09:48 AM] slv: she booked

[09:48 AM] gtz_: then everony starts killing around

[09:48 AM] workingclasshero: no, i think that there were not violations of the freedom act, it was not like he failed to report them

[09:48 AM] workingclasshero: they just did not happen there

[09:49 AM] gtz_: slanski said he knew of the star chamber events

[09:49 AM] slv: "it's a quiet neighborhood"

[09:49 AM] workingclasshero: he knew that people met there, and that it was not organized

[09:49 AM] slv: well, there's two schools of thought we can discern here: either slanski KNEW the club was a front for resistance, and he's in on it, or he's just so laid-back, he doesn't CARE as long as it's not a problem

[09:49 AM] slv: and up until then it didn't seem like a problem

[09:49 AM] workingclasshero: agreed

[09:49 AM] gtz_: i think it was a quiet hood in the sense that there was not much "real" crime going on

[09:49 AM] slv: but judging by his composure in the interview, i don't think he really knows anything

[09:50 AM] slv: i think he just overlooked it all

[09:50 AM] gtz_: but maybe i'm reading too much into this

[09:50 AM] workingclasshero: and there was not real crime, because this was a doped community

[09:50 AM] gtz_: ok

[09:50 AM] gtz_: you have a point

[09:50 AM] slv: see, i don't know though

[09:50 AM] gtz_: i didn't think of it this way round

[09:50 AM] slv: let me grab the bit that makes me think the opposite

[09:50 AM] workingclasshero: what slv what are you tinkg

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[09:51 AM] gtz_: if any government cam up with this args instead of tv to distract the masses

[09:51 AM] gtz_: they could rule the world

[09:51 AM] gtz_: and drug us all they wanted

[09:51 AM] nev7n: I think Slanski sympathises with the resistance, is scared of the authorities and is just trying to keep his head down and survive

[09:51 AM] gtz_: well

[09:51 AM] gtz_: "tried"

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[09:51 AM] gtz_: actually

[09:51 AM] gtz_: :-)

[09:51 AM] nev7n: yes tried

[09:51 AM] slv: here

[09:51 AM] slv: (Link: http://iamtryingtobelieve.com/images/purpose_04.jpg)http://iamtryingtobelieve.com/images/purpose_04.jpg

[09:52 AM] slv: cases of illness in rural folks

[09:52 AM] slv: in the city

[09:52 AM] slv: implying they don't have parepin in their water back home

[09:52 AM] slv: from the interview we can also discern that it's a quiet town

[09:52 AM] slv: so it's not the city

[09:52 AM] slv: i put those together and think, maybe there's no parepin in their water, or less of it, or something

[09:52 AM] slv: there's a reason they say that rural folks got ill in the city

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[09:53 AM] slv: but i might be reading too much into it

[09:53 AM] workingclasshero: mmmm, thinking

[09:53 AM] slv: i just found those two facts to line up a bunch

[09:53 AM] gtz_: ok

[09:53 AM] slv: which makes me think it's staged, the attack on the club

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[09:53 AM] slv: BECAUSE of the lack of parepin

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[09:53 AM] gtz_: how does this tip the scales on slanski being aware of immoral behaviour in his district?

[09:53 AM] teamcanuck: news?

[09:53 AM] slv: they're not drugged on parepin

[09:53 AM] slv: so they go out and party some

[09:53 AM] nev7n: I see what you're saying but I think the whole bioterrorism thing is just an excuse for the parepin

[09:53 AM] gtz_: so far i agree

[09:53 AM] slv: you must think, is this cop drinking the water?

[09:53 AM] teamcanuck: swen?

[09:53 AM] slv: probably

[09:54 AM] slv: but he still seems to have a decent grasp on things

[09:54 AM] gtz_: who's drinking water anyway?

[09:54 AM] slv: he doesn't seem "dazed" really, even after the crazy things he just saw

[09:54 AM] gtz_: i haven't been drinking tap water in months

[09:54 AM] slv: hahaha yeah they need to dope CocaCola

[09:54 AM] gtz_: beer, more like it

[09:54 AM] workingclasshero: the community where slanski patrols is drinking the water

[09:54 AM] nev7n: sry to break it to you but coke is made with tap water

[09:54 AM] teamcanuck: Timmies coffee!

[09:54 AM] gtz_: so, back on track

[09:54 AM] slv: until we get more facts or another site, we're at a bit of a brick wall

[09:54 AM] workingclasshero: ok i am off to work on the address

[09:54 AM] nev7n: gl

[09:55 AM] workingclasshero: bbl

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[09:55 AM] slv: i think we need to backtrack a bit, hit up the 105 site and the churchofplano

[09:55 AM] gtz_: i agree that the town of this star-incident is probably not drugged

[09:55 AM] slv: has anyone extracted ANYTHING from church of plano yet?

[09:55 AM] VaelekWork: what address?

[09:55 AM] slv: of the star club whatever it's called

[09:55 AM] slv: star chamber

[09:55 AM] gtz_: he's trying to figure out what plano we're talking about

[09:55 AM] gtz_: there is a star newspaper in plano

[09:55 AM] gtz_: texas

[09:56 AM] gtz_: so this really indicates we are talking about plano, texas

[09:56 AM] slv: the headquarters of church of plano

[09:56 AM] slv: right?

[09:56 AM] slv: ok so why is that a connection

[09:56 AM] slv: why did they do this in plano

[09:56 AM] slv: it's connected to the church, it has to be

[09:56 AM] gtz_: and, frankly, as nin is all anti-american and stuff, i think taking this dump on texas makes kinda sense

[09:56 AM] slv: ahhahahaha good point

[09:57 AM] slv: hey man, they're anti totalitarian... don't forget, USA #1

[09:57 AM] gtz_: i think tey're trying to tell us we're talkin plano in texas

[09:57 AM] gtz_: not that other one up north

[09:57 AM] slv: ok

[09:57 AM] slv: the church though

[09:57 AM] slv: has anyone found any other pages on that one?

[09:57 AM] gtz_: i'd say it's safe to assume the church is in that plano, texas

[09:57 AM] slv: i only saw the frontpage i think

[09:57 AM] gtz_: oh

[09:57 AM] gtz_: ok

[09:57 AM] slv: that would make sense though

[09:57 AM] slv: because the church has patrols

[09:57 AM] slv: which would imply crime is down a bit

[09:58 AM] slv: because it's self-contained in the community more

[09:58 AM] slv: self-policed if you will

[09:58 AM] VaelekWork: star chamber may not be a real name... check out (Link: http://forum.shsu.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=172605&sid=7408bad0da323a528f4a0c32e894660b)http://forum.shsu.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=172605&sid=7408bad0da323a528f4a0c32e894660b and search the page for it... kindof... interesting

[09:58 AM] slv: and instead of cracking down on the homeland security jive, the cop is just laid back, because he figures, safe neighborhood, no need to fux with it

[09:58 AM] gtz_: and slanski is talking about civilian patrols in the interrogation

[09:59 AM] VaelekWork: snippet: In effect, what the new law appears to do is to create a parallel “star chamber” system for the prosecution, imprisonment and possible execution of enemies of the state, whether those enemies are foreign or domestic.

[09:59 AM] slv: yeah waelek there's a bunch of puns sort of in here

[09:59 AM] slv: vaelek, sorry

[09:59 AM] gtz_: VaelekWork: they explicitely state taht this star chamber is below an aold newspaper building

[09:59 AM] slv: newspapers don't exist

[09:59 AM] slv: the truth gets buried now

[09:59 AM] slv: the same way they're burying the event in the star chamber

[10:00 AM] slv: since we know they're not going public with it, as they destroyed the evidence

[10:00 AM] gtz_: are thy burrying it?

[10:00 AM] slv: yeah

[10:00 AM] slv: the bunny suits and flamethrowers

[10:00 AM] gtz_: they might as well go publich with this

[10:00 AM] slv: they ain't takin any bodies out of there

[10:00 AM] slv: well Roby/rory

[10:00 AM] slv: she is the key

[10:00 AM] gtz_: that was jsut decon

[10:00 AM] slv: because she knows of the blood sweat

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[10:00 AM] slv: which is apparently getting slanski killed

[10:00 AM] slv: just knowing about it

[10:00 AM] slv: but they KNOW she knows

[10:00 AM] slv: because of the transcript

[10:00 AM] slv: the question is, what did she do after trying to get in there

[10:00 AM] gtz_: why were they tapping her line, anyway?

[10:01 AM] slv: if she went home, she's dead

[10:01 AM] slv: they weren't they were tapping the club

[10:01 AM] gtz_: oh

[10:01 AM] slv: it was an outgoing call

[10:01 AM] gtz_: i figured mia had a cell phone

[10:01 AM] gtz_: damn

[10:01 AM] slv: ohhh maybe

[10:01 AM] gtz_: yeah, the club's line

[10:01 AM] slv: i figured there was a payphone in there

[10:01 AM] gtz_: makes sense

[10:01 AM] slv: because it goes to dialtone

[10:01 AM] slv: cells don't really do that

[10:01 AM] gtz_: that it was tapped

[10:01 AM] gtz_: yeah

[10:01 AM] gtz_: you're right

[10:01 AM] slv: maybe not payphone... probably club phone, it would make sense in a basement storeroom that there'd be a phone

[10:02 AM] gtz_: why would the feds cover up this incident?

[10:02 AM] slv: ummmmmm why not?

[10:02 AM] nev7n: it was definately tapped cos the recording was from the wiretap service

[10:02 AM] slv: people sweating blood going insane stabbing people?

[10:02 AM] gtz_: it's exactly what they need to create pro parepin panic

[10:02 AM] slv: well this is why i think the town isn't doped

[10:02 AM] slv: they know it's not doped, and they test it on them first

[10:02 AM] gtz_: which is what this whole bio attack thing is about

[10:02 AM] slv: figure out how to kill non-parepin drinkers

[10:02 AM] slv: and ONLY them

[10:02 AM] slv: hence PAREPIN WILL SAVE YOU

[10:02 AM] gtz_: and subversive punks to boot

[10:03 AM] slv: exactly

[10:03 AM] gtz_: talking all politicvs and all

[10:03 AM] gtz_: them crazy kids

[10:03 AM] gtz_: btu why the cover upping?

[10:03 AM] slv: it just implies shadiness

[10:03 AM] gtz_: let it be known some kids in undrugged rural hoboland died of bio attacks

[10:03 AM] slv: think, the feds were already there

[10:03 AM] slv: before the cop was

[10:04 AM] slv: and they just locked up the place

[10:04 AM] slv: so they knew basically what was going on inside

[10:04 AM] slv: else they'd let the cop go in right?

[10:04 AM] gtz_: but

[10:04 AM] gtz_: what was going on inside

[10:04 AM] gtz_: fit their plans exactl

[10:04 AM] gtz_: y

[10:04 AM] slv: it ain't pretty whatever it is

[10:04 AM] slv: wel maybe they want to do it on a bigger, more public scale after

[10:04 AM] slv: and this was just the test

[10:04 AM] gtz_: yeah

[10:04 AM] gtz_: maybe

[10:05 AM] slv: the way i see it is, they know at least one person knows of the blood sweat

[10:05 AM] slv: cop was killed over just seeing an orange teardrop

[10:05 AM] gtz_: however

[10:05 AM] slv: if they go public, the blood sweat story will also inevitably go public

[10:05 AM] slv: and we know they don't want that

[10:05 AM] gtz_: that's the question

[10:05 AM] gtz_: why wouldn't they?

[10:06 AM] slv: but another thing though, if they didn't want people to know about the sweat blood

[10:06 AM] gtz_: i reckon it makes sense in the way this arg is trying to display that government

[10:06 AM] slv: then this isn't a test for another attack... because then it would be known anyways

[10:06 AM] gtz_: but strictly in-game it's not so clever

[10:06 AM] slv: hey, we're scratchin our heads, right?

[10:07 AM] gtz_: an hour ago i was seeing more clearly

[10:07 AM] gtz_: i think

[10:07 AM] gtz_: let'S start over

[10:07 AM] gtz_: authorites staged this incident

[10:07 AM] slv: we can assume that

[10:07 AM] gtz_: and it was some biological thingy

[10:08 AM] gtz_: can anyone look up plano, tx on google earth

[10:08 AM] gtz_: and check what area this newspaper is in?

[10:08 AM] gtz_: maybe it's not rural at all

[10:09 AM] gtz_: and maybe those kids weren't really off parepin

[10:09 AM] gtz_: that would really make a difference

[10:09 AM] slv: yeah we need to figure that bit out

[10:09 AM] slv: but i'm going on the "quiet neighborhood" comments

[10:09 AM] gtz_: since parepin mist not be known to not do anything against bio attacks

[10:09 AM] gtz_: must*

[10:09 AM] slv: actually this is true

[10:09 AM] slv: although that's just doubt on behalf of some people

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[10:09 AM] slv: all we have is no proof that it DOES work

[10:09 AM] VaelekWork: plano.gov is the city's website.. fyi

[10:10 AM] slv: we don't know that any more than it DOESN'T work

[10:10 AM] gtz_: if this star newspaper isn't in rural area

[10:10 AM] gtz_: then we can assume we have proof that perpin doesn not protect you from generic bio attacks

[10:10 AM] slv: how do we know it's the plano star/

[10:10 AM] slv: he only references "the star"

[10:10 AM] slv: as the newspaper

[10:10 AM] gtz_: this cannot be concidence

[10:11 AM] gtz_: seriously

[10:11 AM] gtz_: a star

[10:11 AM] slv: is there a picture of the plano star in any other pictures/pages?

[10:11 AM] gtz_: in plano

[10:11 AM] gtz_: huh?

[10:11 AM] gtz_: i dunno

[10:11 AM] slv: the newspaper

[10:11 AM] VaelekWork: HAHA.. front page of (Link: www.plano.gov)www.plano.gov --> "Pay yoru water bill"

[10:11 AM] slv: that's kind of a stretch

[10:11 AM] gtz_: HAHAHA

[10:11 AM] gtz_: slv: you really think this is a stretch?

[10:12 AM] gtz_: that cannot be a coincidence

[10:12 AM] gtz_: except

[10:12 AM] slv: i feel like if you can't confirm it with what we know, put it in list B, not list A

[10:12 AM] gtz_: if you have a lot of "star" newspapers there in the us of a

[10:12 AM] slv: if there was a headline ripped from the "plano star" on one of the pages, then maybe

[10:12 AM] slv: that's what i'm saying

[10:12 AM] gtz_: then that might be a coincidence

[10:12 AM] slv: although it's an 'arg'

[10:12 AM] slv: which means it would tie in to real world data

[10:12 AM] gtz_: i'm not saying the planostar page is in-game

[10:13 AM] slv: yeah

[10:13 AM] gtz_: but this tie in would be pretty well researched

[10:13 AM] slv: well actually don't listen to me, if we only used in-game data it wouldn't be an 'arg'

[10:13 AM] slv: yeah and so far it looks real consistent with info like that

[10:13 AM] slv: so let's roll with that, at least for current thinking

[10:13 AM] gtz_: what with patrolling citizens

[10:13 AM] slv: so they're in plano. explains the patrolling citizens

[10:13 AM] gtz_: is this common throughout the country

[10:13 AM] slv: i think we're missing something with the plano page

[10:13 AM] gtz_: or jsut chruch influence?

[10:13 AM] slv: i'm gonna check it out for a bit

[10:14 AM] slv: well they emphasis it on churchofplano.com

[10:14 AM] gtz_: yea

[10:14 AM] slv: and like i said, it's not just random coincidences

[10:14 AM] gtz_: my point

[10:14 AM] slv: if they match up at all really, it's probably something to consider

[10:14 AM] slv: i feel like the plano star could be a stretch, but with all the data in front of us, it really could work

[10:14 AM] gtz_: has anyone google earth ready?

[10:14 AM] slv: yeah hold on

[10:15 AM] fltrgrph: (Link: http://www.google.com/maps?q=624+Krona+Dr,+Plano,+TX+75074&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=33.007143,-96.672789&spn=0.00664,0.013561&t=k&om=1)http://www.google.com/maps?q=624+Krona+Dr,+Plano,+TX+75074&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=33.007143,-96.672789&spn=0.00664,0.013561&t=k&om=1

[10:15 AM] VaelekWork: this may have been said already, but planostar.com is the paper

[10:15 AM] gtz_: yeah

[10:15 AM] VaelekWork: nm

[10:15 AM] VaelekWork: OHHHH.. duh.. club under the newspaper.. *CLICK*

[10:15 AM] gtz_: that plano.gov page is hilarious

[10:16 AM] Rekurzia: :DDD cute coincidence

[10:16 AM] gtz_: funny as hell

[10:16 AM] slv: ok what am i looking up in google earth

[10:16 AM] slv: plano TX?

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[10:16 AM] gtz_: plano, tx

[10:16 AM] gtz_: maybe the exact address of thenewspaer

[10:16 AM] gtz_: and check if it looks rural

[10:16 AM] gtz_: or more

[10:16 AM] gtz_: like

[10:16 AM] gtz_: you know

[10:16 AM] gtz_: city-ish

[10:17 AM] fltrgrph: The google maps link is the addr of the newspaper

[10:17 AM] gtz_: ah+

[10:17 AM] gtz_: ok

[10:17 AM] gtz_: thanks

[10:17 AM] cynicmuse: you realize that plano is a major suburb of dallas?

[10:17 AM] VaelekWork: doesn't look all that rural to me

[10:17 AM] fltrgrph: just behind the Pres. George Bush Turnpike

[10:17 AM] cynicmuse: not rural at all

[10:17 AM] slv: (Link: http://planostar.com/contact_us/)http://planostar.com/contact_us/

[10:17 AM] slv: hmm

[10:17 AM] gtz_: but not really city-esque either

[10:18 AM] slv: which address does it look like

[10:18 AM] slv: yeah but cities of any stature were probably doped

[10:18 AM] slv: but we're going on the government TELLING us they're doping all the water

[10:18 AM] slv: i don't know if we should necessarily take that at face value

[10:19 AM] gtz_: i suppose it would be their 5 year plan to dope all water

[10:19 AM] cynicmuse: um. not rural. city of 200,000+

[10:19 AM] slv: ok i have it up on google earth

[10:19 AM] cynicmuse: (Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plano,_Texas)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plano,_Texas

[10:19 AM] slv: but i don't really see anything significant

[10:19 AM] cynicmuse: right outside of dallas

[10:20 AM] gtz_: well

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[10:20 AM] gtz_: we assume then, plano is well under parepin influence

[10:21 AM] slv: ok i'm gonna up the google earth pics

[10:21 AM] slv: but i don't think they'll really help

[10:21 AM] gtz_: and the star chamber incident indicates that parepin is in fact useless in protecting you from bio attacks

[10:21 AM] slv: which is why they don't want to go public

[10:21 AM] slv: that would make more sense

[10:21 AM] gtz_: that is something the bureau would want to cover up

[10:21 AM] slv: but why create something just to cover it up?

[10:21 AM] gtz_: i think this makes sense

[10:21 AM] slv: we basically know they sent the guy in there

[10:22 AM] gtz_: DO we?

[10:22 AM] gtz_: i just assumed

[10:22 AM] gtz_: maybe they just wanted to shut the thing down

[10:22 AM] slv: well

[10:22 AM] slv: in the time it takes a COP to respond, who should be the first one there

[10:22 AM] slv: they already have the place locked

[10:22 AM] gtz_: right

[10:22 AM] slv: and quarantine taped

[10:22 AM] gtz_: i forgot

[10:23 AM] slv: so either they're following the guy

[10:23 AM] slv: actually that could be it too, they just followed him to where he was going, and drugged him before he went in

[10:23 AM] slv: but judging by the phonecall nobody knew him

[10:23 AM] slv: they just said "hey man you need a doctor"

[10:23 AM] gtz_: given the immoral nature of that club, maybe they had it tapped anyay

[10:24 AM] gtz_: that incident might have been coming in handy

[10:24 AM] slv: ehhh maybe, but the way the interview goes, it seems like the cops were lacking on that

[10:24 AM] gtz_: to do away with the kids

[10:24 AM] gtz_: right

[10:24 AM] slv: unless it was feds without the cops knowing

[10:24 AM] gtz_: so the data appears to be contradicting itself

[10:24 AM] slv: but i get the impression they didn't have feds around

[10:24 AM] gtz_: kinda

[10:24 AM] slv: until this happened

[10:24 AM] slv: hmm

[10:25 AM] slv: it's not that the data contradicts itself

[10:25 AM] slv: we're just missing the pieces we need

[10:25 AM] slv: to dispel false theories

[10:25 AM] slv: pretty much any of us could be right at this point

[10:25 AM] gtz_: one thing indicates the authorities staged this thing

[10:25 AM] gtz_: another one says they didn't wnat anyone to know

[10:25 AM] gtz_: there was no upside to this

[10:25 AM] slv: well why are those mutually exclusive

[10:25 AM] slv: unless it was a test

[10:26 AM] gtz_: what were they to gain from this?

[10:26 AM] slv: test the new bioweapon they developed

[10:26 AM] gtz_: ok

[10:26 AM] slv: that's the only thing i can figure out really

[10:26 AM] slv: if you assume it's not a test, then why the near instant response time of the feds?

[10:26 AM] gtz_: did slanski appear after being called?

[10:26 AM] Rekurzia: cya later guys

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[10:27 AM] gtz_: or was he just on some patroulling?

[10:27 AM] slv: why the place tapped? (although you pointed out it might've been tapped already, or since it's the future maybe every phone goes through a master recording device"

[10:27 AM] slv: he got called, a 10-48

[10:27 AM] Missmenchi: Has anyone noticed a fuck up with the dates in the chat between SLANSKI and AGENT SIKES?

[10:27 AM] gtz_: right

[10:27 AM] gtz_: i remember

[10:27 AM] gtz_: so

[10:27 AM] gtz_: whoever staged this incident

[10:27 AM] slv: no missmenchi, what is that?

[10:27 AM] gtz_: must have know the cops would sho up

[10:27 AM] slv: who called it in

[10:27 AM] gtz_: no y0 based date

[10:27 AM] slv: remember, this is underground

[10:27 AM] slv: in a basement

[10:27 AM] slv: wait they could hear screams outside

[10:27 AM] slv: hmm

[10:28 AM] slv: so anyone could've called... but the only people when the cops arrived were the feds

[10:28 AM] gtz_: IF this was staged

[10:28 AM] Missmenchi: Well, They obtained the record of the conversation on the 9th right?

[10:28 AM] slv: so WHO CALLD THE COPS

[10:28 AM] gtz_: the setup was pretty bad

[10:28 AM] Missmenchi: And the whole incedent happened on the 7th

[10:28 AM] slv: missmenchi, the interview is two days after the event

[10:28 AM] Missmenchi: yeah, but it says....

[10:28 AM] Missmenchi: AGENT SIKES

[10:29 AM] Missmenchi: Two days later you were called back to the scene. Describe what happened then

[10:29 AM] Missmenchi: That's the 9th.. the day they get the interview

[10:29 AM] slv: (Link: http://hypercirclestudios.com/slvmchn/plano-star-newspaper-building.jpg)http://hypercirclestudios.com/slvmchn/plano-star-newspaper-building.jpg

[10:29 AM] slv: (Link: http://hypercirclestudios.com/slvmchn/plano-star-newspaper-building-close.jpg)http://hypercirclestudios.com/slvmchn/plano-star-newspaper-building-close.jpg

[10:29 AM] slv: (Link: http://hypercirclestudios.com/slvmchn/plano-star-newspaper-building-far.jpg)http://hypercirclestudios.com/slvmchn/plano-star-newspaper-building-far.jpg

[10:29 AM] Missmenchi: AGENT SIKES

[10:29 AM] Missmenchi: Yes, but Iâ€™m very thorough, so Iâ€™d like to hear you tell it. Tell me what happened yesterday

[10:29 AM] slv: although i don't know if these will help

[10:29 AM] Missmenchi: Yesterday would be the 8th

[10:30 AM] slv: hmm yeah

[10:31 AM] slv: slightly inconsistent

[10:31 AM] Missmenchi: prob more likely a fuck up than anything to focus on. Just noticed that's all

[10:31 AM] gtz_: would they let this slip through?

[10:32 AM] Missmenchi: Although for some reason I get the feeling that SKANSKI is Shatter36 on the forum.

[10:32 AM] gtz_: how so?

[10:34 AM] severthestars: I don't believe so. Shatter36 has to be either: Suyai Abbot, Dylan Chast or Kyle Bilgare.

[10:34 AM] Missmenchi: Dunno.. it's just shatters post seem to tie in with the timing of the whole thing and it's the only post that don't explain what happened. Assuming this is a tight knit community people probably know each other quite well, where they live, what they do etc.

[10:34 AM] severthestars: he/she replies him/her being m.i.a.

[10:34 AM] gtz_: what?

[10:35 AM] severthestars: therefore shatter36 has to be one of those three people mentioned in the forum

[10:35 AM] slv: the forum page on anotherversionofthetruth

[10:35 AM] slv: yeah it's a self-reference

[10:35 AM] slv: as in "hey where are you?" "i'm here, hiding"

[10:35 AM] VaelekWork: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (Getting up for a min... excuse my placemarker lol)

[10:35 AM] slv: kind of thign

[10:35 AM] Missmenchi: So, they know he's a cop in the area. It's alot of people dying so assume it's in the news and people would know about it. No need to explain anything, just letting them know he's ok.

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[10:37 AM] severthestars: I may have missed something, but how do you infer that shatter36 is a pig?

[10:37 AM] gtz_: did the cops lock the people in teh infected club?

[10:37 AM] gtz_: or the breau?

[10:37 AM] gtz_: bureau*

[10:37 AM] yourexwife: bureau.

[10:38 AM] yourexwife: the feds were there before the cops.

[10:38 AM] yourexwife: the cops arrived to find that the feds locked the place up.

[10:38 AM] Missmenchi: I dunno, but I doubt that the police force wouldn't have anyone undercover in the resistance so why not the other way round?

[10:38 AM] Missmenchi: I kinda don't think it was feds doing that interview

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[10:39 AM] gtz_: no

[10:39 AM] gtz_: not feds

[10:39 AM] severthestars: Well, I haven't come ot the conclusion if shatter36 is a civilian [part of the resistance] or a pig. Just asking about your point of view.

[10:39 AM] gtz_: that other bureau

[10:39 AM] gtz_: bureau of moral foobar or some such

[10:39 AM] severthestars: the mortality?

[10:40 AM] severthestars: bureau of mortality*

[10:40 AM] gtz_: -t

[10:40 AM] gtz_: morality

[10:40 AM] severthestars: morality*

[10:40 AM] gtz_: a.k.a thought police

[10:40 AM] gtz_: i must admit i'm not up to date with this forum thingy

[10:41 AM] slv: yeah i missed a bit on it

[10:41 AM] gtz_: so, during the call from mia

[10:41 AM] slv: it's mostly info on the presence

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[10:41 AM] slv: people talking about it... plus the baseball game attack

[10:41 AM] severthestars: On that topic- has anyone translated the columbian woman in the Opal/Cocaine topic?

[10:41 AM] gtz_: the club is put into lockdown

[10:41 AM] gtz_: lockdown by cops?

[10:41 AM] slv: yeah severthestars, i read it on the forum

[10:41 AM] slv: echothesound or whatever it's called

[10:41 AM] gtz_: all the shooting says it was the cops

[10:42 AM] slv: she talks about how they grew coca but then the government didn't want it

[10:42 AM] severthestars: Do you by chance have a link to that?

[10:42 AM] slv: i don't

[10:42 AM] slv: where is the columbian woman?

[10:42 AM] slv: is that one of the soundfile

[10:42 AM] slv: s*

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[10:42 AM] slv: hold on i'll grab it for you

[10:43 AM] Boohbah: a whole channel?

[10:43 AM] severthestars: I think that she might be in Meta, Columbia.

[10:43 AM] * Boohbah is trying to believe

[10:43 AM] severthestars: That's where the post originated from, and from the sound file, I have reason to believe that she is in Meta.

[10:44 AM] severthestars: [But of course, that's just opinion]

[10:45 AM] slv: yeah

[10:46 AM] slv: she talks about how americans do opal now

[10:46 AM] slv: and they can't sell coca leaves

[10:46 AM] slv: and instead, they ship opal to america to just buy it back

[10:46 AM] slv: something like that

[10:46 AM] severthestars: So, logically she has to be in columbia.

[10:46 AM] Boohbah: why don't you link the forum in the topic?

[10:46 AM] slv: sever, i can't find the exact post, but that's pretty much what it said

[10:47 AM] slv: that and global warming messed up their crops

[10:47 AM] slv: and killed her whole familyl practically in a mudslide

[10:47 AM] severthestars: (Link: http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/opal.htm)http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/opal.htm

[10:47 AM] severthestars: So, basically, no useful info to the game?

[10:48 AM] gtz_: man

[10:48 AM] gtz_: this whole star chamebr incident really fries my head

[10:49 AM] gtz_: i can't come to terms with what to conclude

[10:49 AM] slv: we need more to work with

[10:49 AM] slv: it's all speculation without it

[10:51 AM] severthestars: [Right before my mom has a seizure she gets a metallic taste in her mouth]

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[10:51 AM] gtz_: regarding the orange tears

[10:52 AM] xybre: Heh, the IP addresses for some of the sites are sequential

[10:52 AM] gtz_: i belive it is safe to assume this is some publically unheard of condition

[10:52 AM] slv: ok, runswithscissors on the forums:

[10:52 AM] slv: Regarding the Angry Sniper's connection to the church:

[10:52 AM] slv: I doubt very much that he is currently involved with the church, as the church is in Plano, Texas - and he lives in Illinois (mentioned on (Link: http://www.bethehammer.net/bio.htm)http://www.bethehammer.net/bio.htm).

[10:52 AM] slv: Not sure if this has been posted before..as ic ant seem to find it...

[10:52 AM] slv: but im not so sure the church is in either place..

[10:52 AM] slv: the picture on the CofP site obviously has palm trees infront of it... also..

[10:52 AM] gtz_: and the tasting of metal upon brushing against said orange tear agent

[10:53 AM] slv: (Link: http://www.olacathedral.org/cathedral/arch/overview.html)http://www.olacathedral.org/cathedral/arch/overview.html

[10:53 AM] slv: that site says that cathedral is in L.A.

[10:53 AM] xybre: 207.97.210.190 is iamtryingtobelieve 207.97.210.191 is anotherversionofthetruth

[10:53 AM] slv: i dont know if this is relevant.. but its the same place...

[10:53 AM] slv: so there's a plano illinois

[10:53 AM] slv: and the sniper is from illinois

[10:53 AM] severthestars: There are another set of sequentials too

[10:53 AM] gtz_: exactly

[10:54 AM] xybre: 69.20.104.25 was mentioned somewhere, but the ip leads no where, although it's hosted by the same company and also proxied so the owner cant be ided

[10:54 AM] severthestars: 105thairbornecrusaders, bethehammer, church of plano, consolidatedmailsystems

[10:54 AM] gtz_: is there a star newspaper in plano. il?

[10:54 AM] xybre: (Link: http://www.northernstar.info/nina/members.html)http://www.northernstar.info/nina/members.html ?

[10:54 AM] severthestars: No, but there is one in Texas isn't there?

[10:55 AM] slv: well forget the newspaper for a second

[10:55 AM] gtz_: no :-(

[10:55 AM] gtz_: i like that tie in

[10:55 AM] gtz_: i don't want it to be coincidence

[10:55 AM] gtz_: shit

[10:55 AM] gtz_: xyeah

[10:55 AM] slv: hahaha

[10:55 AM] gtz_: ok

[10:55 AM] slv: okyeah good point

[10:55 AM] slv: i'm just trying alternate channels here to break the standstill

[10:55 AM] gtz_: so, screw the damn propaganda leaflet

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[10:57 AM] gtz_: slv: i was ander the impression you wanted to say soemthing as soon as i forgot about the newspaper?

[10:57 AM] gtz_: under*

[10:57 AM] slv: ah

[10:57 AM] gtz_: for christ's sake

[10:57 AM] slv: i was thinking maybe plano is rural

[10:57 AM] slv: plano IL

[10:57 AM] gtz_: my spelling needs fixing

[10:57 AM] slv: i'm gonna check google earth

[10:57 AM] slv: do we know a timeline of events? which was first, the sniper attack or the star club

[10:58 AM] severthestars: Uhm.. in the consolidatedmailsystems.com/nooneimportant :in middle and upper class populations, users drop or inject into the eye. This temporarily turns the whites of the eyes black.

[10:58 AM] severthestars: Could this have something to do with the tears?

[10:59 AM] slv: maybe, but he didn't say anything about black eyes

[10:59 AM] slv: only the tear

[10:59 AM] xybre: Hey is the imtryingtobelieve website supposed to be garbled? My computer is somehow running on a failing hard drive with software isses, so I have no way of telling.

[10:59 AM] slv: i would think he'd have mentioned both if that were the case

[10:59 AM] slv: haha yeah it's glitched xybre

[10:59 AM] slv: as are the rest of them

[10:59 AM] VaelekWork: xybre: ctl-a to make it readable

[11:00 AM] xybre: VaelekWork: doesnt work, first thing I tried :) So I copied it to a text editor. I wanna look at it's css..

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[11:01 AM] xybre: i>>?

[11:01 AM] xybre: What is that?

[11:01 AM] xybre: It looks like a foreign character symbol, it's in the css for the page

[11:01 AM] xybre: Dont think it translated well across irc though

[11:01 AM] VaelekWork: xybre: main or global?

[11:02 AM] xybre: Both

[11:02 AM] xybre: At the very begining from what I'm looking at

[11:02 AM] xybre: Like I said, my computer is.. messed up. but those characters don't show up on other sites.

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[11:02 AM] insip: (Link: http://www.uswiretap.com/case_number_required/css/global.css)http://www.uswiretap.com/case_number_required/css/global.css ?

[11:02 AM] insip: or where

[11:02 AM] VaelekWork: looking at global right now, I see nothing? Where are you referring to

[11:03 AM] xybre: Hold on

[11:03 AM] xybre: I'm going to try and see if I can get a decent handle on it

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[11:05 AM] xybre: Maybe it's a software bug on my sde, but it shows up whem I hit meta+shift+c to view the css files in firefox.

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[11:06 AM] iamnobody2: there's not much of an indication that any of nin's albums take place in any certain reality as of yet beside year zero, correct?

[11:06 AM] gtz_: pretty much

[11:06 AM] gtz_: axcept this real reality is what you call "a certain reality"

[11:07 AM] gtz_: except*

[11:07 AM] gtz_: bloody hell

[11:07 AM] xybre: I don't see so much how this is an alternate reality as much as a possible future. But thats me.

[11:08 AM] VaelekWork: I think that's the idea

[11:08 AM] severthestars: [kinda reminds me of the MWI of quantum mechanics]

[11:09 AM] xybre: Most people have no idea how close to reality some of this already is, given 15 years, we could be living it.

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[11:10 AM] xvs: we ARE in that reality

[11:10 AM] slv: like i said

[11:10 AM] slv: john titor came back in time

[11:10 AM] slv: and started ministry

[11:10 AM] slv: and wrote the song Suck

[11:10 AM] iamnobody2: the entire world has been trending towards less freedom since pretty much the beginning, it's cause the human race is shit

[11:10 AM] slv: just kidding. suck was a pigface song

[11:10 AM] severthestars: Has there been any useful information on the churchofplano.com page that I should make note of?

[11:10 AM] slv: i mixed up my late 80s industrial

[11:10 AM] slv: sever, not much at all

[11:10 AM] xybre: slv: theres so many bands who've done songs by that name

[11:10 AM] slv: as far as i can tell nobody's discovered any / pages to it

[11:11 AM] slv: like churchofplano.com/church or aynthing

[11:11 AM] slv: xybre: Suck, on broken, was a pigface song

[11:11 AM] xvs: nope(

[11:11 AM] slv: from when trent was in pigface

[11:11 AM] slv: dude how much do you wanna bet

[11:11 AM] slv: fuckin martin atkins

[11:11 AM] gtz_: the church is running ms iis

[11:11 AM] gtz_: is there no way to make that crap piece of software spit out some directory listing?

[11:12 AM] severthestars: I'm creating a notebook devoted to this, but so far I don't have much infor about the church site or the consolidatedmailsystems.com/nooneisimportant [besides the opal shit].

[11:12 AM] severthestars: information*

[11:12 AM] slv: both the church site and the 105th site need some mining

[11:12 AM] gtz_: yes

[11:12 AM] slv: there's shit in there we're missing

[11:12 AM] gtz_: someone do that

[11:12 AM] gtz_: i'm lazy right now#

[11:12 AM] slv: i tried looking at some images on the church site

[11:12 AM] slv: but couldn't come up with anything that's not alreayd in the forums

[11:12 AM] iamnobody2: i'm too lazy when i'm awake

[11:12 AM] slv: but on the forums the consensus is that it's TX

[11:12 AM] xybre: I guess someone has already transcribed the faint text on the whatis parepin image

[11:13 AM] slv: the star reference is too apparent to be coincidence

[11:13 AM] gtz_: wait?

[11:13 AM] gtz_: can i remember the newspaer, now?

[11:13 AM] severthestars: What about the specific color fragments in the bethehammer.net

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[11:13 AM] slv: yeah gtz

[11:13 AM] severthestars: Any theories on that ?

[11:13 AM] slv: hmm

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[11:14 AM] dumdum: whoever nailed with with phil hines start chamber last night after I posted those links

[11:14 AM] dumdum: big up

[11:14 AM] dumdum: made my auric firewall go fucking nuts

[11:14 AM] severthestars: There's basically four colors [besides the main body color] used for certain letters. Black, Grey, Marroon, and Red. [besides the code 24.10.7 in green]

[11:15 AM] dumdum: hope it hit you back nicely ;)

[11:15 AM] dumdum: um

[11:15 AM] dumdum: so, is there another fool for this project besides that insieout kid?

[11:15 AM] dumdum: or this all still about his lame ass

[11:15 AM] dumdum: im sick of that fuck

[11:15 AM] gtz_: severthestars: that colors remeind of the medals superimposed

[11:15 AM] dumdum: (Link: www.arcanoriumcolllege.com)www.arcanoriumcolllege.com

[11:15 AM] gtz_: remind

[11:15 AM] dumdum: log in as guest

[11:16 AM] dumdum: search for posts by insideout like his projection of consciousness one

[11:16 AM] dumdum: he's gonna ruin all our fuckin games

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[11:16 AM] severthestars: I tried to unscramble them [according to color] with no avail.

[11:17 AM] gtz_: are they plain colours?

[11:17 AM] slv: hey i just read this on the forums

[11:17 AM] slv: it happens in seconds because it is the moment that they send in the infected police officer and this is what happens directly after that.

[11:17 AM] gtz_: ore all faded and shaded and all?=

[11:17 AM] slv: referring to star chamber

[11:17 AM] slv: i wonder how this person figured they were a cop

[11:17 AM] gtz_: overactive imagination?

[11:17 AM] severthestars: Let me get the page source, gimme a sec.

[11:17 AM] gtz_: severthestars: mayhaps there's something coded into the color values?

[11:18 AM] aychseven: they went over that already

[11:18 AM] aychseven: check the thread for steganography

[11:18 AM] gtz_: although i feel this wouldnt be the line of this arg

[11:18 AM] severthestars: No,

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[11:18 AM] severthestars: red is red and grey is grey and marroon is marron and black is black.

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[11:19 AM] severthestars: Nothing out of the ordinary there.

[11:19 AM] xvs: my guess that trent will continue to make that sites it general just to keep us busy. just to wake up

[11:21 AM] severthestars: I wish he'd hurry then. I'm becoming frustrated at it all.

[11:21 AM] gtz_: bloody damn right he should

[11:21 AM] xvs: heh

[11:21 AM] xybre: Heh, this kinda reminds me of They Live

[11:21 AM] gtz_: plus, i hope trent won't be making the sites

[11:21 AM] severthestars: It doesn't have to even be a new site. Just new links or something.

[11:21 AM] gtz_: those marketing hobos should keep making them

[11:21 AM] severthestars: MORE CONTENT SOMEWHERE

[11:21 AM] gtz_: yes

[11:22 AM] gtz_: and more leakage

[11:22 AM] severthestars: Yes plz.

[11:22 AM] severthestars: I suppose there might be something from Paris tonight or tomorrow night.

[11:22 AM] aychseven: well hopefully we get something tonight after the show in paris

[11:22 AM] severthestars: [haha]

[11:23 AM] severthestars: I keep racking my brain about the churchofplano.com site

[11:23 AM] slv: i'm telling you, there's a / on churchofplano.com

[11:24 AM] slv: like churchofplano.com/pastor or something

[11:24 AM] severthestars: At the very bottom it talks about the rankings of the school.

[11:24 AM] severthestars: 12 of 20, 6 of 20, and 4 of 20.

[11:25 AM] slv: yeah the consensus is that means 24.12.8

[11:25 AM] slv: at least on the forums

[11:25 AM] aychseven: it doesnt makes sense that that piece of info would have a number

[11:26 AM] aychseven: seems like each sound file, song, website has 1 number to go along with it

[11:26 AM] aychseven: phone message

[11:26 AM] slv: ok guys

[11:26 AM] slv: check this out

[11:26 AM] slv: on churchofplano.com, on the left

[11:26 AM] slv: join FECP today!

[11:26 AM] severthestars: According to the code, that would make it a 't'?

[11:26 AM] slv: now look at this

[11:26 AM] slv: (Link: http://www.fbcplano.org/)http://www.fbcplano.org/

[11:26 AM] slv: an actual site

[11:26 AM] slv: but they have FBCP

[11:27 AM] VaelekWork: that's first baptist

[11:27 AM] slv: first evangelical church, first baptist church... on second thought maybe it's nothing

[11:27 AM] slv: yeah

[11:27 AM] slv: hmm

[11:27 AM] xvs: logo like adobe products

[11:27 AM] xvs: old acrobat reader etc

[11:27 AM] xvs: :)

[11:27 AM] BYTE-Smasher: in plano, texas

[11:27 AM] slv: yeah

[11:28 AM] BYTE-Smasher: hence, plano church

[11:28 AM] BYTE-Smasher: lol

[11:28 AM] slv: i googled "church of plano

[11:28 AM] Boohbah: i lived in plano

[11:28 AM] BYTE-Smasher: well, changes are, the arg's "churchofplano" is in plano texas :p

[11:28 AM] Boohbah: does that help?

[11:28 AM] aychseven: i'm sorry ;)

[11:28 AM] BYTE-Smasher: Boohbah: it might :)

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[11:29 AM] Boohbah: it was long ago though

[11:29 AM] severthestars: Well, according to the uswiretap.com, Slasnki used to be catholic but converted to new evangelical for career advancement.

[11:29 AM] BYTE-Smasher: try scanning over the churchofplano site and see if anything looks familiar :p

[11:29 AM] BYTE-Smasher: severthestars: it seems in this futuristic world, evangelism is the new naziism

[11:30 AM] iamnobody2: thats not a stretch

[11:30 AM] Boohbah: so did all of you come to freenode just for this channel?

[11:30 AM] Boohbah: seems like a strange network for it

[11:30 AM] iamnobody2: yeah, i frequent a few other networks

[11:31 AM] iamnobody2: not freenode tho

[11:31 AM] severthestars: [haha, I lost my train of thought so I revoke that statement]

[11:31 AM] iamnobody2: don't care much about open source

[11:31 AM] aychseven: you guys might be interested in this:

[11:31 AM] aychseven: (09:30:11) shatter36@gmail.com: I just received some intel from hippygeek:

[11:31 AM] aychseven: It looks like the ARG sites are static, so Shatter's mission is changing. He will be used to broadcast news from the troops, and will only monitor yearzero.nin.com

[11:31 AM] aychseven: If it looks like the ARG sites are morphing, he will start monitoring them again. If you have any questions about Shatter, you know who to ask...

[11:31 AM] BYTE-Smasher: iamnobody2: well, perhaps not in terms of genocide .... but at least in terms of "you'd better belong, or you're outcast"

[11:31 AM] * xybre is now reminded of Equilibrium

[11:31 AM] iamnobody2: i mean it's good an allm just don't care

[11:32 AM] slv: i rock freenode, i'm on more chans in here than i am efnet nowadays

[11:32 AM] Boohbah: oh, i've been on freenode forever and just heard about this channel from the forum post i was linked to in some random blog :)

[11:32 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I come to freenode whenever I'm using php... or troubleshooting open source apps

[11:32 AM] slv: freenode is the best nerd server for IRC

[11:32 AM] xybre: Facinating how he's pulled together all this different aspects into one thing. All these concepts and ideas, thigns in movies and songs. Crazy. I love it.

[11:32 AM] gtz_: wait

[11:32 AM] BYTE-Smasher: depends on what you're into slv

[11:32 AM] gtz_: waht song are we talking about?

[11:33 AM] slv: aychseven: where'd you get that?

[11:33 AM] BYTE-Smasher: esper.net's getting pretty big for oldschool sound production

[11:33 AM] aychseven: from the tracker

[11:33 AM] aychseven: shatter36

[11:33 AM] aychseven: was tracking all the arg sites for changes

[11:33 AM] slv: what sort of oldschool sound production

[11:33 AM] slv: oh nice

[11:33 AM] BYTE-Smasher: trackers and such

[11:34 AM] slv: nifty! any chans i should check out?

[11:34 AM] slv: i rock audio

[11:34 AM] BYTE-Smasher: #modarchive on esper is the most active tracker chan I've seen of late

[11:34 AM] xybre: "You want to end up in a Gulag? " <- link to nazism on another version of truth :)

[11:34 AM] slv: ARGH churchofplano is driving me mad

[11:34 AM] BYTE-Smasher: slv: what trackers do you use?

[11:34 AM] slv: gulags were russian i thought?

[11:34 AM] Boohbah: who's the channel owner?

[11:34 AM] aychseven: yeah gulag not nazi

[11:35 AM] BYTE-Smasher: m0d runs #modarchive

[11:35 AM] BYTE-Smasher: also known as redheat

[11:35 AM] aychseven: gulag soviet

[11:35 AM] VaelekWork: #trax on another.net I think is where I used ot hang

[11:35 AM] slv: not many byte smasher, played with renoize a bit but never stuck with it

[11:35 AM] xybre: slv: ,you're right, wrong form of fascism :D

[11:35 AM] BYTE-Smasher: #trax on most networks tends to be an idlefarm

[11:35 AM] Boohbah: hah LordMael is here :)

[11:35 AM] slv: i used the built-in tracker on dreamstation synth back in the day

[11:35 AM] BYTE-Smasher: Renoise kicks ass these days

[11:36 AM] VaelekWork: now it is ya.. 4-5 years ago though, it was hoppin

[11:36 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I run #renoise on esper.net :p

[11:36 AM] BYTE-Smasher: :D

[11:36 AM] slv: oh cool!

[11:36 AM] BYTE-Smasher: it's become fairly idle lately because I haven't had a chance to run compos

[11:36 AM] BYTE-Smasher: anyway

[11:36 AM] BYTE-Smasher: enough off topic

[11:36 AM] BYTE-Smasher: come to #modarchive if you want to talk trackers :p

[11:37 AM] Boohbah: anyone use cubase?

[11:38 AM] xybre: Heh, I have renoise, never actually *used* it though

[11:38 AM] xybre: Boohbah: EnergyXT ftw :)

[11:38 AM] slv: yeah same with my xybre, i would just mess with it, never really got into it

[11:38 AM] Boohbah: xybre: what's that?

[11:39 AM] xybre: Boohbah: similar concept to Cubase, lots cheaper, rather eclectic

[11:39 AM] xybre: I'm loving the nicks on the forums "romeisburning"

[11:40 AM] Boohbah: i am trying to get into open source pro audio

[11:40 AM] Boohbah: (Link: http://baudline.blogspot.com/)http://baudline.blogspot.com/

[11:40 AM] Boohbah: nice spectrum analyzer

[11:41 AM] xybre: ext isn't open source, but it's more community-centric, I've yet to see anything open source I'd consider seriously.

[11:41 AM] xybre: At least as far as hosts. There's a *lot* of good open source vsts and other things.

[11:41 AM] VaelekWork: spectromatic is alright

[11:42 AM] slv: baudline is sweet boohbah

[11:42 AM] Boohbah: rosegarden looks promising for midi sequencing, but not really there yet..

[11:42 AM] Boohbah: slv: you try it?

[11:42 AM] slv: i haven't yet but i know people that have

[11:42 AM] * VaelekWork uses Skale... needs to get out of beta though.

[11:42 AM] slv: i haven't had a need to yet really

[11:43 AM] VaelekWork: & Reason

[11:43 AM] slv: rosegarden is so-so, it's good for notation

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[11:43 AM] slv: what's Skale?

[11:43 AM] VaelekWork: ever use Fast Tracker?

[11:43 AM] xybre: Boohbah: it's going to be the KDE of linux audio, I'm not even going to bother :/

[11:43 AM] VaelekWork: it's the "updated" version of that. Was to become opensource but ended up only being released to one dude and he's hella slow

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[11:43 AM] VaelekWork: skale.org

[11:44 AM] * xvs btw already said 2 or more times about gulag lastweek

[11:44 AM] slv: what about gulag

[11:44 AM] Boohbah: xybre: you say that like you don't like kde :)

[11:45 AM] Boohbah: oh, and i take full responsibility for derailing the discussion...

[11:45 AM] xybre: Boohbah: I don't. It's a personal thing, I'm not trying to start a window manager war.

[11:45 AM] xybre: What I really mean is too many features and not enough functionality (for my prurposes)

[11:45 AM] aychseven: uh oh here it goes

[11:46 AM] BYTE-Smasher: VaelekWork: have you tried Renoise?

[11:47 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I came from ft2... I couldn't stand skale's crashing and such... Renoise is the only tracker that I find even close to similar workflow as ft2

[11:47 AM] VaelekWork: BYTE-Smasher: I want to say yes.. but there's been so many.

[11:47 AM] slv: guys careful, mods were kicking people for going offtopic

[11:47 AM] BYTE-Smasher: you should try Renoise then

[11:47 AM] slv: just letting you know before it gets too busy

[11:47 AM] BYTE-Smasher: this is coming from an ft2 addict btw

[11:47 AM] BYTE-Smasher: not a newage tracker fanboy

[11:47 AM] gtz_: ok

[11:47 AM] BYTE-Smasher: :p

[11:47 AM] gtz_: gotta go

[11:47 AM] * VaelekWork ft2 addict also lol

[11:47 AM] gtz_: see ya

[11:47 AM] aychseven: later

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[11:48 AM] BYTE-Smasher: the demo is fully featured... minus rendering to .wav.... but you can use y our waveout or a VST wavewriter to do that

[11:48 AM] BYTE-Smasher: :)

[11:49 AM] BYTE-Smasher: anyway

[11:49 AM] BYTE-Smasher: I must stop offtopicing

[11:49 AM] BYTE-Smasher: lest I get kicked

[11:49 AM] VaelekWork: thinktanks need coffee breaks too :P

[11:49 AM] BYTE-Smasher: heh

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[11:50 AM] xvs23: shit

[11:51 AM] xvs23: about gulag i've said that its russian thing

[11:51 AM] aychseven: oh people keep saying its nazi thing?

[11:51 AM] xvs23: but someome said that its also american camps

[11:51 AM] aychseven: LOL

[11:51 AM] aychseven: goulag is actually an acronym

[11:51 AM] aychseven: or gulag whatever

[11:51 AM] xvs23: ye, acronym

[11:52 AM] severthestars: For what?

[11:53 AM] aychseven: something about administration of labor camps

[11:53 AM] BYTE-Smasher: glaug

[11:53 AM] BYTE-Smasher: laugg

[11:53 AM] BYTE-Smasher: luagg

[11:53 AM] BYTE-Smasher: :p

[11:53 AM] xvs23: (Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

[11:53 AM] severthestars: It's a forced labor camp isn't it?

[11:54 AM] severthestars: [In Russia or the USSR or whatever the hell you want to call it]

[11:54 AM] VaelekWork: ------------------ (again excuse the mark)

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[11:54 AM] aychseven: people usually use that word to refer to labor camps yes

[11:55 AM] aychseven: but the term actually refers to the department that oversees them

[11:55 AM] aychseven: brb reboot

[11:55 AM] severthestars: Offtopic- Did anyone else notice a few fragments that were white [to blend into the background] on churchofplano?

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[11:57 AM] xybre: This is probably a coincidence, but (Link: http://207.97.210.192)http://207.97.210.192 takes you to VitaGanza.com toting "Immune-boosting Antiaging Supplements"

[11:57 AM] * xybre is amused more than anything

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[11:57 AM] aychseven: oh thats right, you're in russia arent you xvs?

[11:58 AM] xvs23: yes

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[12:01 PM] severthestars: [I wish I was anywhere but here [a.k.a. Ky]]

[12:02 PM] aychseven: north korea?

[12:02 PM] insip: xvs nichego novogo?

[12:03 PM] severthestars: Kentucky

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[12:03 PM] xybre: Worse :o

[12:03 PM] aychseven: i know KY, but you said anywhere. so i asked if DPRK would be a suitable reloaction

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[12:04 PM] severthestars: If I wasn't a poor college kid I'd be in Japan by now.

[12:04 PM] aychseven: lol ditto actually

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[12:04 PM] aychseven: except i'm not a poor college kid

[12:04 PM] xvs23: insip no

[12:05 PM] severthestars: haha.

[12:05 PM] severthestars: Is there a way to search webpages just by meta keywords?

[12:05 PM] xvs23: i wanna be everywhere

[12:05 PM] xvs23: and i wanna fuck everyone, of course

[12:05 PM] aychseven: i wanna fuck everyone

[12:05 PM] aychseven: aww beat me too it

[12:05 PM] xvs23: ;)

[12:06 PM] aychseven: so are you russian citizen or expat from some place?

[12:06 PM] xvs23: ye, from moscow :)

[12:06 PM] Bobo_Minky: severthestars: not that i know of. the major search engines stopped using metadata due to keyworg loading abuse

[12:06 PM] Bobo_Minky: keyword*

[12:07 PM] GhostFreeman: that and the actual text content on pages is a lot more accurate

[12:07 PM] insip: ok

[12:07 PM] severthestars: Totally offtopic but how old is everyone?

[12:07 PM] GhostFreeman: 19

[12:07 PM] severthestars: [I feel really young, just wondering]

[12:07 PM] VaelekWork: 27 here

[12:07 PM] xvs23: same here:)

[12:07 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_tag)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_tag

[12:07 PM] aychseven: 25

[12:08 PM] Bobo_Minky: 27 here

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[12:08 PM] severthestars: ahh cheers bobo

[12:08 PM] severthestars: damn it. I am the youngest.

[12:08 PM] severthestars: I'll turn 19 in like 7 months.

[12:08 PM] Bobo_Minky: and (Link: http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2165061)http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2165061

[12:09 PM] Bobo_Minky: hey nothing wrong with being young, enjoy it while you can

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[12:09 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: 28.

[12:09 PM] GhostFreeman: yeah life after 25 is the pits

[12:09 PM] severthestars: I have 9 more years of school left [hurray!]

[12:09 PM] Bobo_Minky: all down hill from there

[12:09 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Haha.

[12:10 PM] severthestars: But I'll bet ten bucks that I have more piercings. [harkaharka]

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[12:10 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Lol i bet i got cooler tats thn most n here.

[12:11 PM] Bobo_Minky: um i bet i have the least tats and piercings

[12:11 PM] aychseven: doubt that one

[12:11 PM] teamcanuck: i have 0

[12:11 PM] severthestars: 0?

[12:11 PM] teamcanuck: beat that

[12:11 PM] aychseven: yep

[12:11 PM] Bobo_Minky: damn i have 0 as well

[12:11 PM] xvs23: "if i knew back then what i know by now"

[12:11 PM] aychseven: same

[12:11 PM] Bobo_Minky: so its a tie

[12:11 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: But thats off topic, on topic what tiems the show tonight.

[12:11 PM] teamcanuck: i have an extra asshole though

[12:12 PM] Bobo_Minky: rotflmao

[12:12 PM] insip: xvs mne kazhetsya vse poiski bespolezni,tk Trent polnostbu kontroliruet process i be3 ego leak'ov nikuda ne uidem

[12:12 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Hahaha i had a porn with a girl in that had that once.

[12:12 PM] Bobo_Minky: thats right insip

[12:12 PM] xvs23: insip ugu

[12:12 PM] teamcanuck: so when does the concert end?

[12:12 PM] insip: ^^

[12:12 PM] Bobo_Minky: i wish nin would come to sa

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[12:13 PM] teamcanuck: i wish NIN would play in my closet

[12:13 PM] * scorpionz has 4 tats and 6 piercings..

[12:13 PM] teamcanuck:

[12:13 PM] Bobo_Minky: bit cramped dont you think?

[12:13 PM] severthestars: I have 26 piercings and 2 tattoos on my hipbones.

[12:13 PM] scorpionz: in your closet? lol

[12:13 PM] aychseven: you must have a big closet

[12:13 PM] scorpionz: damn

[12:13 PM] teamcanuck: lol who says its not a walk-in

[12:13 PM] severthestars: [fucking lag]

[12:13 PM] scorpionz: i have a quake tat =P

[12:13 PM] aychseven: lol

[12:14 PM] teamcanuck: my house is like bender & fry's from furutama, the closet is huuuuuuge

[12:14 PM] Bobo_Minky: er...

[12:14 PM] VaelekWork: (not for the ninwiki) anyone off hand know how to delete wiki pages?

[12:14 PM] Bobo_Minky: step 1: hack site. step 2: delete offending page.

[12:15 PM] severthestars: Wouldn't it be shitty if we are waiting for tonight and nothing happens?

[12:15 PM] teamcanuck: step 3: eat icecream

[12:15 PM] VaelekWork: It's my site

[12:15 PM] teamcanuck: step 4: crap out your 2nd asshole

[12:15 PM] GhostFreeman: um you have Sysop powers?

[12:15 PM] VaelekWork: um, it's running on a box in my closet, i hope so heh

[12:15 PM] GhostFreeman: its somewhere at the top near Edit but I can't be sure since I haven't touched a MediaWiki install in eons

[12:16 PM] cut: 23:30:02 -!- cut was kicked from #yearzero by heroicraptor [fuck 4chan]

[12:16 PM] cut: errrrrrr

[12:16 PM] cut: right click paste

[12:16 PM] GhostFreeman: bel-air it!

[12:17 PM] teamcanuck: shoot ur computer

[12:17 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Nothing happend at the bibo show and every one was wating fr that one.

[12:17 PM] teamcanuck: i know

[12:17 PM] teamcanuck: i doubt we're getting anything 2nite

[12:17 PM] teamcanuck: we just got soemthing

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[12:18 PM] aychseven: but it was monday and wed i thought? :(

[12:18 PM] severthestars: By the powers of deduction or by the accidental drop of a pen drop?

[12:18 PM] severthestars: drive*

[12:18 PM] teamcanuck: well i want to hear hyperpower! next

[12:18 PM] GhostFreeman: maybe we just aren't looking hard enough

[12:18 PM] Bobo_Minky: ok heres my question: is there any info on roby?

[12:18 PM] GhostFreeman: and I bet its the warning next

[12:19 PM] severthestars: I don't care what it is as long as I can hear it.

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[12:19 PM] teamcanuck: it'll be more random cricket noises

[12:19 PM] iantm: anybody here use oink?

[12:19 PM] aychseven: yeah i do

[12:19 PM] teamcanuck: thats really a track from YZ

[12:19 PM] iantm: check this out (Link: http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=654242)http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=654242

[12:19 PM] Bobo_Minky: i mean in that whole us wiretap section, it seems that everyone that saw anything was cleaned up

[12:19 PM] Bobo_Minky: it doesnt mention anything about roby though

[12:20 PM] xybre: "Masters of industrial are masters of suspense"

[12:20 PM] aychseven: lol fucking old school

[12:20 PM] Bobo_Minky: but the conversation between mia and roby was recorded

[12:20 PM] GhostFreeman: your oink link is 404

[12:20 PM] Bobo_Minky: so the authorities must know about her

[12:20 PM] aychseven: no it works fine

[12:20 PM] iantm: you have to be logged in i think

[12:20 PM] severthestars: Do you guys think this will continue after the record is out or it will end when the record comes out in april?

[12:20 PM] aychseven: its invite only though

[12:20 PM] aychseven: so if you dont have an account...

[12:20 PM] iantm: don't worry, it's not year zero or anything

[12:21 PM] teamcanuck: i want the YZ2 one to start once YZ1 comes out

[12:21 PM] iantm: it's all the exotic birds/option 30, innocent releases

[12:21 PM] Bobo_Minky: anyone?

[12:21 PM] teamcanuck: whats the next one gonna be called? YEar One?

[12:22 PM] severthestars: What's the take on mallory?

[12:22 PM] xvs23: oh

[12:22 PM] iantm: year zero two: democrat president elected, everything back to normal

[12:22 PM] xvs23: its time to go home, but theres a lot to do

[12:22 PM] xvs23: fuck

[12:22 PM] teamcanuck: year zero: reloaded

[12:23 PM] xvs23: year zero: revolutions

[12:23 PM] teamcanuck: ahha u got that reference:P

[12:23 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: So if her was phone was taped they must have belived she was involved in the resistance.

[12:23 PM] Bobo_Minky: possibly

[12:23 PM] teamcanuck: year zero: the empire strikes back

[12:23 PM] Bobo_Minky: but i cant find any mention of her elswhere

[12:23 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Thats why i think the starloung was just a front for the resitence.

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[12:24 PM] aychseven: everyone's phone is tapped IMO

[12:24 PM] xybre: According to what I've read, Year Zero *is* the art, so it may not stop when the album comes out at all.

[12:24 PM] GhostFreeman: yeah we know, its called ECHELON

[12:24 PM] severthestars: My cell is tapped.

[12:24 PM] Bobo_Minky: how did the people that discovered the US wiretap site work out the case number?

[12:24 PM] GhostFreeman: and gheyt&t is tapping our internets

[12:25 PM] scorpionz: it was on the last voicemessage

[12:25 PM] teamcanuck: theyre reading this right now

[12:25 PM] severthestars: I bet the presence is too.

[12:25 PM] teamcanuck: heroicraptor is really the pope

[12:25 PM] GhostFreeman: HEY SUP FEDS HOW ARE YOU DOING?!?! YOU LIKE HOW I TP'ED YOUR YARD?!!?

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[12:25 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Case number was said on the msg.

[12:26 PM] * teamcanuck waves to the FBI

[12:26 PM] Bobo_Minky: ok

[12:26 PM] aychseven: yeah the first words on the phone message were "us wiretap. incident number 7..."

[12:26 PM] severthestars: Wait wait.

[12:26 PM] severthestars: I found it in the meta keywords of the uswiretap page

[12:26 PM] aychseven: oh that too

[12:27 PM] severthestars: I guess I wasn't paying enough attention to the phone message

[12:27 PM] aychseven: i found it before i even looked at the source

[12:27 PM] GhostFreeman: incident 7...does that mean there were other calls related to the star chamber incident or the seventh incident that involved a brutal massacre

[12:27 PM] aychseven: 7 was the beginning of the incident number

[12:27 PM] aychseven: 71839j

[12:27 PM] aychseven: is the full number

[12:27 PM] GhostFreeman: oh

[12:27 PM] severthestars: What if the meta keywords of churchofplano are after the slash

[12:27 PM] aychseven: i didnt feel like typing it out

[12:27 PM] teamcanuck: hey, hey.....if the presence could talk do u think he'd sound like Darth Vader? "Trrrreeeeeeennnnntttt IIII Haaaaavvvvvve Yooouuuuuurrr Reeeecccorrrdddd"

[12:28 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Hahahahaha.

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[12:28 PM] severthestars: like how the uswiretap.com/ had a keyword from the meta

[12:28 PM] GhostFreeman: the presences doesn't need to talk, he's too busy being godly

[12:28 PM] GhostFreeman: fucking cold hands

[12:28 PM] severthestars: why couldn't that be a way to find a / meta keyword for the churchofplano site

[12:28 PM] teamcanuck: did u know theres a song on Limewire called Cat Piss? I wonder what it sounds like.

[12:29 PM] severthestars: Eww limewire

[12:30 PM] teamcanuck: Question of the ARG: if Trent made the Presence, who made Trent?

[12:30 PM] GhostFreeman: can I get an explanation as to why 'resistance' and 'parepin' are in the meta tags?

[12:30 PM] GhostFreeman: presuming that the church of plano is in the same bed as the feds

[12:31 PM] GhostFreeman: is it just to appease crawlers?

[12:31 PM] Bobo_Minky: crawlers arent meant to use metatags

[12:31 PM] Bobo_Minky: maybe its just a double check to help us figure out whether a site is a fake or not

[12:32 PM] GhostFreeman: of course

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[12:32 PM] aychseven: no, how would that prevent someone from putting those tags in a fake site?

[12:32 PM] Bobo_Minky: it wouldnt

[12:33 PM] xybre: severthestars: the meta keywords are in the html deader

[12:33 PM] GhostFreeman: are there any metawords that are consistent across all the sites?

[12:33 PM] GhostFreeman: ones that we know that are in-game

[12:33 PM] Bobo_Minky: lemme check

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[12:34 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://iamtryingtobelieve.com/)http://iamtryingtobelieve.com/ - meta name="keywords" content="parepin, the presence, i am trying to believe, conspiracy, water supply, bioterrorism, tampering"

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[12:34 PM] GhostFreeman: what about hyperpower.org? Out of game (I think it is)

[12:35 PM] GhostFreeman: parepin and i am trying to believe was also in churchofplano

[12:35 PM] teamcanuck: is there a meetyourmaster.com?

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[12:35 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/)http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/ - (nothing)

[12:35 PM] xvs23: oh, btw, ppplz

[12:36 PM] xvs23: anyone got a copy of (Link: http://snaapz.bounceme.net/stolen.mp3)http://snaapz.bounceme.net/stolen.mp3 ?

[12:36 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://bethehammer.net/)http://bethehammer.net/ - <meta name="keywords" content="bethehammer, be the hammer, carver, Mallory, parepin, year zero, the presence, resistance, another version of the truth"

[12:36 PM] rue: yourexwife: Think it might be time to close the main thread

[12:37 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://105thairbornecrusaders.com)http://105thairbornecrusaders.com - meta name="keywords" content="105th airborne, 105th airborne crusaders, Sharpened Sword, parepin, year zero, the presence, resistance, another version of the truth"

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[12:37 PM] xybre: The code numbers look like dates. Year Month Day, or Day Month.

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[12:37 PM] GhostFreeman: looks like parepin and AVOTT are consistent across all the pages

[12:37 PM] GhostFreeman: except AVOTT itself

[12:38 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://churchofplano.com)http://churchofplano.com - <meta name="keywords" content="first evangelical church of plano, church of plano, civil patrol, parepin, year zero, the presence, resistance, another version of the truth"

[12:38 PM] teamcanuck: and the presence

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[12:38 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://www.consolidatedmailsystems.com/citizen_unknown/)http://www.consolidatedmailsystems.com/citizen_unknown/ - (nothing)

[12:39 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://www.consolidatedmailsystems.com/nooneimportant)http://www.consolidatedmailsystems.com/nooneimportant - meta name="keywords" content="nooneimportant, no one important, angrysniper, angry sniper, consolidated mail systems, consolidated mail system, parepin, year zero, the presence, resistance, another version of the truth"

[12:40 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://www.uswiretap.com/case_number_required)http://www.uswiretap.com/case_number_required - <meta name="keywords" content="uswiretap, US Wiretap, Bureau of Morality, 71839J, parepin, year zero, the presence, resistance, another version of the truth"

[12:40 PM] Bobo_Minky: (Link: http://www.uswiretap.com/71839J)http://www.uswiretap.com/71839J - <meta name="keywords" content="uswiretap, US Wiretap, Bureau of Morality, 71839J, parepin, year zero, the presence, resistance, another version of the truth"

[12:40 PM] Bobo_Minky: is that all of them?

[12:40 PM] severthestars: Resistance seems to be a pretty common content word

[12:40 PM] teamcanuck: the presence

[12:41 PM] teamcanuck: is

[12:41 PM] teamcanuck: in

[12:41 PM] teamcanuck: all

[12:41 PM] Bobo_Minky: except the ones with (nothing)

[12:41 PM] teamcanuck: well yeah

[12:41 PM] teamcanuck: but nothings in the ones with nothing

[12:41 PM] Bobo_Minky: exactly

[12:41 PM] teamcanuck: see, i am omnipotent

[12:41 PM] Bobo_Minky: why do those two have nothing?

[12:42 PM] aychseven: you're impotent? :(

[12:42 PM] teamcanuck: OMNIPOTENT

[12:42 PM] aychseven: lol

[12:42 PM] severthestars: rofl

[12:42 PM] GhostFreeman: those sites have content that is pretty much reached through putting together metadata?

[12:42 PM] * aychseven bashes head against his office wall

[12:42 PM] GhostFreeman: breadcrumbs end?

[12:42 PM] teamcanuck: has notihng to do with having dumb sperm

[12:42 PM] aychseven: MORE CLUES DAMNIT!

[12:42 PM] Bobo_Minky: also the wiretap sites add "bereau of morality" and "71839j"

[12:43 PM] * teamcanuck gives GhostFreeman more bread

[12:43 PM] severthestars: bureau8

[12:43 PM] GhostFreeman: thanks

[12:43 PM] * GhostFreeman eats happily

[12:43 PM] severthestars: cookies for all

[12:43 PM] * teamcanuck hands out donuts

[12:44 PM] teamcanuck: its like a web-picnic

[12:44 PM] severthestars: on the bottom of the nooneimportant it has something that begins with OC Spray: no effect and then it continues

[12:44 PM] teamcanuck: :D

[12:44 PM] VaelekWork: Oleoresin Capsicum

[12:44 PM] VaelekWork: pepper spray basically

[12:45 PM] slv: nice vaelek

[12:45 PM] Bobo_Minky: maybe the crew that put together the webpages forgot that modern search engines dont use metatags?

[12:45 PM] slv: maybe the metatags aren't there for the search engines

[12:45 PM] severthestars: Can anyone make out the rest?

[12:46 PM] severthestars: [I'm writing all this down]

[12:46 PM] VaelekWork: is anyone adding the tags to the wiki? Should probably at least go in weak leads or theories or something?

[12:46 PM] Bobo_Minky: slv: could be for internal searches on the iis server theyre running

[12:46 PM] Bobo_Minky: iis can still index metadat

[12:46 PM] teamcanuck: OC Spray: no effect

[12:46 PM] slv: OC spray = no effect. lethal = yes if ...

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[12:47 PM] slv: blackblahblah

[12:47 PM] slv: (dison) said taser caused purp to break (his) back

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[12:47 PM] slv: i can't make out the bit after "lethal = yes

[12:47 PM] slv: it might not say 'lethal'

[12:47 PM] severthestars: Cheers for the effort

[12:48 PM] teamcanuck: "if blah blah blah"

[12:48 PM] slv: but the second line is definitely "(dison?) said tazer caused perp to break his back"

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[12:48 PM] severthestars: I wish we could get a csi in here. But together our deduction skills are quite remarkable

[12:48 PM] slv: like i've said several times, just the hobbit reference alone blew my mind

[12:48 PM] slv: that someone put that together

[12:49 PM] rue: It says that lethal force is OK under certain conditions

[12:49 PM] teamcanuck: i see "break own back"

[12:49 PM] VaelekWork: yea this is all a study into the effectiveness of "open source" casefiles lol... disguise them as ARG's and let us do all the work.

[12:49 PM] * VaelekWork see's 'own' rather than 'his' also

[12:49 PM] Bobo_Minky: how about taking the metatags and cancelling out any that apear more than once. so we just have the uniques?

[12:49 PM] severthestars: Taser caused perp to break own back?

[12:50 PM] GhostFreeman: he got shocked and fell on something

[12:50 PM] GhostFreeman: either that or the cop beat the shit outta him

[12:50 PM] GhostFreeman: probably the latter

[12:50 PM] teamcanuck: anyone else see something written very faintly just below "intelligence and information"

[12:51 PM] teamcanuck: looks underlined too

[12:52 PM] Bobo_Minky: ? where are you reading this?

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[12:52 PM] VaelekWork: I can't even find the 'intelligence and information' part.. you on cms?

[12:53 PM] VaelekWork: oh i found it

[12:53 PM] aychseven: (Link: http://www.consolidatedmailsystems.com/nooneimportant/)http://www.consolidatedmailsystems.com/nooneimportant/

[12:53 PM] VaelekWork: at the bottom

[12:53 PM] GhostFreeman: I don't see anything

[12:53 PM] slv: yeah i think you guys are right with "own" instead of "his"

[12:53 PM] VaelekWork: yea it does look like there might be something there

[12:53 PM] Bobo_Minky: neither do i?

[12:54 PM] VaelekWork: enlarging it's INCREDIBLY faint... doesn't look like much

[12:54 PM] GhostFreeman: I hope you are all making archival records of all the media

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[12:55 PM] teamcanuck: (Link: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/teamcanuck/untitled2.jpg)http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/teamcanuck/untitled2.jpg

[12:56 PM] xybre: The Plano Church logo reminds me of the Norsefire cross from V for Vendetta. Note how I'm endlessly connecting this to movies.

[12:57 PM] GhostFreeman: I noticed that too

[12:59 PM] VaelekWork: teamcanuck- sharpened it a few times, put it on a black background, if anything it's maybe a signature or something. looks to start with a Y or G or something that loops way down. the rest is.. incomprehensable.. probably hothing. ah, it's probably a "shadow" of the written text above?

[12:59 PM] xybre: A *lot* of this seems to be tying together these related themed movies. V, Equilibrium, Matrix even.

[12:59 PM] torrefaction: It's not movies...

[12:59 PM] torrefaction: It's tying togethe concepts that've been in books for years

[12:59 PM] torrefaction: Farenheit 451, 1984, Animal Farm

[01:00 PM] torrefaction: Hell, V was a graphic novel in the 80's.

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[01:01 PM] VaelekWork: if that says anything, I'm convinced it starts w/ a Y

[01:02 PM] xybre: torrefaction: you're right there too, these concepts have been re-terated in movies but were originally in books.

[01:03 PM] * xybre rmemebers throwing 1984 across the room when he read the last line

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[01:05 PM] aychseven: oh man... (Link: http://www.peelpolice.on.ca/Specialized%20Units/Investigative%20Units/Morality.aspx)http://www.peelpolice.on.ca/Specialized%20Units/Investigative%20Units/Morality.aspx

[01:05 PM] rue: Animal Farm is not a sci-fi/alternate future book

[01:06 PM] aychseven: the morality buearu

[01:06 PM] iantm: animal farm is about the corruption of soviet socialism

[01:06 PM] SoundlyAsleep: its what it sounds like

[01:06 PM] SoundlyAsleep: animals ;)

[01:07 PM] SoundlyAsleep: everybody seen this? (Link: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid298841052?bctid=512940575)http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid298841052?bctid=512940575

[01:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: Animal Farm should be burned!!! it's communist propaganda!!!

[01:07 PM] SoundlyAsleep: wurvivalism vid

[01:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: XD

[01:07 PM] SoundlyAsleep: Sur*

[01:07 PM] GhostFreeman: lets burn you while you're at it

[01:07 PM] GhostFreeman: we're*

[01:07 PM] Bobo_Minky: er

[01:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: oh

[01:07 PM] GhostFreeman: >:)

[01:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: did I forget my sarcasm tags?

[01:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: </SARCASM?

[01:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: er

[01:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: >

[01:07 PM] BYTE-Smasher: bah

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[01:07 PM] * BYTE-Smasher shoots himself

[01:08 PM] BYTE-Smasher: zghsrilbfd

[01:08 PM] GhostFreeman: its </sarcasm>, we stopped using caps back in '01

[01:08 PM] Bobo_Minky: move along people nothing to see here

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[01:08 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: you're a cocky one, aren't ya GhostFreeman

[01:09 PM] GhostFreeman: I do it because I care

[01:09 PM] mpikeat2002: hahah aych

[01:09 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: I'm reminded of an aphex twin album

[01:09 PM] mpikeat2002: that morality bureau talks completely about BUD

[01:09 PM] mpikeat2002: its not moral to smoke drugs!~

[01:10 PM] xybre: Biker gangs grow weed?

[01:10 PM] mpikeat2002: apparently in canada

[01:10 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: fuck yah

[01:10 PM] xybre: House Fires? Electrical Hazards??

[01:10 PM] mpikeat2002: i should hit up the harley davidson place

[01:10 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: hells angels grow most of canada's weed

[01:10 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: they're the #1 coke trafficers in canada too

[01:11 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: they're the only real organized crime we've got here

[01:11 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: :p

[01:11 PM] Bobo_Minky: gogo hells angels

[01:11 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Inontario and quebec, but like bc and albertit not he bikes, yes the bikers are ther to but ther no runing the big ops.

[01:11 PM] ZeroLux: wow what a blatently misconcieved stereotypical image of a biker gang.

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[01:11 PM] billnye: <-SARCASM

[01:12 PM] Bobo_Minky: one of my old neighbors was the leader of the local hells angels chapter

[01:12 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: ZeroLux: I happen to know quite a few people involved in the HA

[01:12 PM] Bobo_Minky: he was a cool dood

[01:12 PM] slv: hahaha yeah i mean, who would associate hells angels with cocaine trade?

[01:12 PM] ZeroLux: GhostFreeman: as do i.

[01:12 PM] ZeroLux: err

[01:12 PM] ZeroLux: GhostOfByte-Smas

[01:12 PM] Bobo_Minky: saved his helmet once

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[01:13 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: O.o

[01:14 PM] * GhostOfByte-Smas slaps team around a bit with some negative space

[01:14 PM] ZeroLux: they're generally good people. yes, a percentage of them have done time, have short fuses and hot tempers, but they're the type that'll stick up for you in a barfight in a second

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[01:14 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: I never said they were bad people

[01:14 PM] ZeroLux: just stating.

[01:14 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: nor did I say that all of them were into that shit

[01:14 PM] ZeroLux: yeah they have an image. and a small few live into it.

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[01:14 PM] Bobo_Minky: i'll tell you one thing. i felt so safe living next to that dood

[01:14 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: but they do happen to be the #1 coke trafficers in canada

[01:14 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: lol

[01:15 PM] VaelekWork: ok. lunch time... everyone shutup for the next 70 minutes k!~ :)

[01:15 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: The ones around me sure do.

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[01:15 PM] GhostFreeman: c-c-fuck

[01:15 PM] teamcanuck: :)

[01:15 PM] ZeroLux: they're some crazy fuckers sometimes. i trust them.

[01:15 PM] aychseven: yeah they'll stick up for you unless you're a mongol ;)

[01:15 PM] slv: dude hells angels do not give a fuck about any of you

[01:16 PM] GhostOfByte-Smas: my dad was involved in HA for years

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[01:16 PM] GhostFreeman: unless you are immediate family of an HA

[01:16 PM] slv: ok maybe they like ghost/byte

[01:16 PM] BYTE-Smasher: until he sobered up

[01:16 PM] slv: yeah

[01:16 PM] slv: hahaha

[01:16 PM] slv: ok but the REST of you

[01:16 PM] slv: have no allies with the hells angels

[01:16 PM] GhostFreeman: good enough, I have no allies period

[01:16 PM] ZeroLux: you want to push that statement...?

[01:16 PM] Bobo_Minky: nah i was surrogate family

[01:16 PM] slv: california

[01:16 PM] slv: uber allies

[01:17 PM] ZeroLux: ack brb

[01:17 PM] * ZeroLux wanders

[01:17 PM] aychseven: i saw a bunch of HA riding down the street one day. they were all like 70yo decrepit old men. funny, yet kinda sad

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[01:19 PM] * Bobo_Minky need new year zero info

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[01:19 PM] BYTE-Smasher: yanno... 'cause it's sad that people stick to their lifestyle beliefs

[01:19 PM] BYTE-Smasher: lol

[01:19 PM] * teamcanuck runs after ZeroLux and beats him with a chair

[01:19 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I guess if it has a negative impact, then it's sad

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[01:20 PM] BYTE-Smasher: but as for 70yr olds on bikes, good for them man

[01:20 PM] BYTE-Smasher: at least they're living

[01:20 PM] BYTE-Smasher: as opposed to existing

[01:20 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: I wann b a 70 y/o biker that be fucking sweet.

[01:20 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I want to be like grandpa from Lost Boys when I'm 70

[01:21 PM] BYTE-Smasher: drinking root beer, and complaining about all the damned vampires

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[01:22 PM] aychseven: so is that like the cool thing kids do these days? sit on irc and not talk?

[01:22 PM] mpikeat2002: lol considering i smoke bud everyday, I found it quite amusing about the signs indicative of a marijuana grow operation.

[01:22 PM] mpikeat2002: even though that was way off topic

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[01:22 PM] Jeriko--: hi

[01:23 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I don't know about you aychseven, but I don't talk on irc

[01:23 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I chat

[01:23 PM] BYTE-Smasher: talking is for vent

[01:23 PM] aychseven: wtfever jerk ;)

[01:23 PM] BYTE-Smasher: :p

[01:23 PM] Jeriko--: I was wondering, does the record company is aware of this campaign at all?

[01:23 PM] mpikeat2002: haha aych, at least we dont have an infinite number of people saying the exact same thing.

[01:23 PM] BYTE-Smasher: lol

[01:23 PM] slv: i'm sure they are jeriko

[01:23 PM] mpikeat2002: even though thats what's goin on at ETS

[01:23 PM] teamcanuck: it'd be hard for them not to

[01:23 PM] aychseven: no we just have potheads spouting off conjecture as if it were fact...

[01:24 PM] mpikeat2002: hehe

[01:24 PM] BYTE-Smasher: HEY! I haven't smoked pot in over 6 years.

[01:24 PM] mpikeat2002: i put a disclaimer, I dont claim it to be fact at all.

[01:24 PM] mpikeat2002: I try to inform people of that.

[01:24 PM] Jeriko--: see, the problem is I linked to My Violent Heart on my website in order to promote this campaign and now I have a dissuasion from universal

[01:24 PM] aychseven: ahaha no way

[01:24 PM] BYTE-Smasher: they emailed you?

[01:25 PM] teamcanuck: lmao!

[01:25 PM] slv: no surprise

[01:25 PM] BYTE-Smasher: you're shitting me

[01:25 PM] Jeriko--: no, their lawyers sent me some nice letter...

[01:25 PM] BYTE-Smasher: that's fucking halarious

[01:25 PM] mpikeat2002: haha

[01:25 PM] teamcanuck: u owe tham 2546000 back rubs

[01:25 PM] slv: write them back

[01:25 PM] BYTE-Smasher: wow

[01:25 PM] GhostFreeman: what?

[01:25 PM] slv: say you found a USB keychain at a show

[01:25 PM] slv: with the song on it

[01:25 PM] BYTE-Smasher: that's even worse

[01:25 PM] slv: and you have NIN's permission to release it

[01:25 PM] mpikeat2002: yep

[01:25 PM] Jeriko--: well do I?

[01:25 PM] Bobo_Minky: he does?

[01:25 PM] BYTE-Smasher: nin didn't give permission to do shit

[01:25 PM] mpikeat2002: it was released by NIN.

[01:25 PM] mpikeat2002: or 42 entertainment

[01:25 PM] Bobo_Minky: heresay

[01:25 PM] mpikeat2002: one of the two.

[01:25 PM] BYTE-Smasher: they "lost" keychains in bathrooms

[01:26 PM] mpikeat2002: I doubt 42 entertainment would drop the USB drives.

[01:26 PM] s3phiroth: haha

[01:26 PM] Bobo_Minky: conjecture

[01:26 PM] mpikeat2002: considering universal would come to them

[01:26 PM] GhostFreeman: by lost we dropped them

[01:26 PM] severthestars: Stupid question, how did we manage to get to the uswiretap site?

[01:26 PM] BYTE-Smasher: severthestars: 2nd keychain

[01:26 PM] teamcanuck: by "lost" we mean planet them

[01:26 PM] s3phiroth: severthestars: teh phone call

[01:26 PM] Jeriko--: so 42 Entertainment is responsible for this whole campaign? or at least the websites?

[01:26 PM] mpikeat2002: phone #

[01:26 PM] severthestars: KK.

[01:26 PM] BYTE-Smasher: Jeriko--: yes

[01:26 PM] severthestars: 2432.mp3?

[01:26 PM] aychseven: yeah

[01:26 PM] BYTE-Smasher: the entire campaign

[01:26 PM] mpikeat2002: 1-216-333-XXXX whatever that # is

[01:27 PM] Jeriko--: Well, I'll find out

[01:27 PM] aychseven: 1810

[01:27 PM] severthestars: how long ago was that?

[01:27 PM] slv: at least the execution of the campaign, the conception is all trent probably

[01:27 PM] aychseven: monday?

[01:27 PM] Jeriko--: also, is "dissuasion" the correct word? I'm from germany :-)

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[01:27 PM] aychseven: jeriko, probably a cease and desist order?

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[01:28 PM] Jeriko--: ah, yes, that's it. thanks.

[01:28 PM] mpikeat2002: btw aych, you mentioned my stating conjectures as fact.. I dont claim them to be factual but rather just a train of thought -- to provide as a POSSIBLE guide to the right direction.

[01:28 PM] GhostFreeman: yeah I got these hosted on a friend's server for a small community

[01:28 PM] GhostFreeman: should I pull them off?

[01:28 PM] aychseven: i never mentioned any names now did i

[01:29 PM] mpikeat2002: hehe :)

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[01:29 PM] mpikeat2002: well, I mean... i did mention smoking bud..

[01:29 PM] Jubb: cease and desist order for what

[01:29 PM] mpikeat2002: universal came to jeriko -- pissed about him hosting My_Violent_heart.mp3

[01:30 PM] Jeriko--: okay this is odd, but how do I start a formal email? Dear Madams and Sirs?

[01:30 PM] aychseven: ghostfreeman, i think its best we leave the files on the download sites like megaupload or whatever

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[01:30 PM] Jubb: ouch

[01:30 PM] GhostFreeman: ok, i'll take them off then

[01:30 PM] Bobo_Minky: to whom it may concern

[01:30 PM] teamcanuck: yeah

[01:30 PM] GhostFreeman: MVH was found in a bathroom, right?

[01:30 PM] Bobo_Minky: or dear sir/madam

[01:30 PM] mpikeat2002: to whom it may concern

[01:30 PM] Jeriko--: I'll write an email to 42 entertainment to get this straight, I keep you guys updated

[01:30 PM] GhostFreeman: send one to trent too

[01:31 PM] Jubb: is that why symphony is different

[01:31 PM] mpikeat2002: and sign off with sincerely or my apologies

[01:31 PM] teamcanuck: trent has an email address?

[01:31 PM] teamcanuck: :O

[01:31 PM] Jeriko--: that was my next question ;-)

[01:32 PM] iantm: harrypothead420@hotmail.com

[01:32 PM] mpikeat2002: DaMoonrulzNumbr1@nin.com

[01:32 PM] teamcanuck: lol

[01:32 PM] teamcanuck: we know nobodies gonna believe those

[01:32 PM] aychseven: maybe try to contact his management at the record label

[01:32 PM] aychseven: i dunno

[01:33 PM] teamcanuck: yeah, nothing has to have an email address

[01:33 PM] mpikeat2002: he's from germany though...

[01:33 PM] mpikeat2002: so calling would be a little bit more difficult, and expensive I'm sure lol

[01:33 PM] Jeriko--: well the have a german outpost you know ;-)

[01:34 PM] teamcanuck: i wonder if trent has a cell phone

[01:34 PM] Jeriko--: but forget about that, there stupid as fuck over here...

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[01:34 PM] severthestars: Wait.. I leave for ten minutes and people are talking about contacting trent?

[01:34 PM] mpikeat2002: ive always found making international calls to a pain.

[01:34 PM] Bobo_Minky: postmaster@interscope.com

[01:34 PM] severthestars: What's going on?

[01:34 PM] teamcanuck: yeah, we're trying to buy underwear

[01:35 PM] Bobo_Minky: see if the admin will help out with relevant email addresses

[01:35 PM] teamcanuck: we want to know if he uses boxers or briefs

[01:35 PM] Bobo_Minky: trent is a boxers kinda guy

[01:35 PM] aychseven: nah, he likes jockeys

[01:35 PM] severthestars: Nah, he's a commando guy

[01:35 PM] teamcanuck: i think he goes commando

[01:35 PM] Jubb: man thongs all the way

[01:36 PM] Bobo_Minky: reverse man thongs the whole way

[01:36 PM] teamcanuck: has to do the commando

[01:36 PM] Jubb: with a pink little heart that says MVH on it

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[01:36 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: I just read idea i think should be disscused.

[01:36 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: 6) Mia had the time to try to get out of the place before locking herself in the closet or whatever, only to find the doors closed (and somehow knowing the cops did it) so there was possibly a calm period before all hell broke loose? What happened during this period?

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[01:37 PM] Jubb: there might've been too much ground to cover to get to the doors before that thing killed everyone, and maybe she saw from a distance the cops were closing/locking them

[01:38 PM] mpikeat2002: either they saw the feds closing the doors as knife-guy enters.. or after he's dead everyone tries to get out.. but locked.

[01:38 PM] Jubb: so she ran to a nearby closet

[01:38 PM] Jeriko--: where were those keychains found? Lissabon, and?

[01:39 PM] mpikeat2002: actually she ran to a closet off of the stockroom.

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[01:39 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Is under groud this palce right so ther probly no windows.

[01:39 PM] teamcanuck: i wonder how many ppl are riffling thru a bathroom for a thumb drive right now in Paris

[01:39 PM] mpikeat2002: jeriko, Barcelona I think?

[01:39 PM] slv: wait how did she know the feds closed it?

[01:39 PM] mpikeat2002: she didnt, she just said "cops"

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[01:39 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: That what i wann know.

[01:39 PM] mpikeat2002: but we know, from the outside it was feds.

[01:40 PM] Missmenchi: It wasn't feds I don't think

[01:40 PM] mpikeat2002: read the interview.

[01:40 PM] rue: Does not matter

[01:40 PM] mpikeat2002: Feds were taping the scene as Slanski arrived.

[01:40 PM] Jubb: feds controlled it, cops ran it

[01:40 PM] rue: "The authorities"

[01:40 PM] Missmenchi: I have, it doesn't say anything about feds

[01:40 PM] severthestars: Bureau of Morality

[01:40 PM] Missmenchi: Not officially anyway

[01:41 PM] SecretlyFabulous: i'd love to find a bureau of morality site. i kind of get the feeling we need to wait for the next site to know anything.

[01:41 PM] SecretlyFabulous: or for an update at any rate.

[01:41 PM] mpikeat2002: It says "the feds were already running the quarantine tape" or whatever

[01:41 PM] mpikeat2002: when he got there

[01:41 PM] Bobo_Minky: or what he though were feds

[01:41 PM] mpikeat2002: either way, thats not what's important

[01:41 PM] rue: The verbiage does not matter. She knew they were police of some kind

[01:41 PM] mpikeat2002: yes

[01:41 PM] Missmenchi: for a start Slanski says "Thatâ€™s not an FBI badge."

[01:41 PM] severthestars: Sikes didn't have a fed badge but she had a badge.

[01:41 PM] mpikeat2002: it doesnt even matter what kind of police these are

[01:41 PM] mpikeat2002: it's been discussed a thousand times

[01:42 PM] mpikeat2002: just rehashing the same crap.. over and over.

[01:42 PM] Missmenchi: AGENT SIKES

[01:42 PM] Missmenchi: By Feds you mean people like me

[01:42 PM] Missmenchi: *like*

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[01:43 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: So she trys to essacpe mabey with other but hey cant leve, mabey see "cops" outside throw a window?

[01:43 PM] SecretlyFabulous: the place is supposedly underground, right? no windows?

[01:44 PM] Bobo_Minky: does it matter hoe she saw them?

[01:44 PM] teamcanuck: hoe!

[01:44 PM] Bobo_Minky: how

[01:44 PM] Bobo_Minky: hoe = how

[01:44 PM] teamcanuck: :P

[01:44 PM] teamcanuck: howdy hoe!

[01:44 PM] slv: where does it say she DID see theM?

[01:45 PM] mpikeat2002: she didnt say that

[01:45 PM] mpikeat2002: she said the cops were the ones who locked her in.

[01:45 PM] mpikeat2002: locked everyone*

[01:45 PM] severthestars: Does anyone have any theories on why it was that particular place?

[01:45 PM] mpikeat2002: and its clear that the doors were locked immediately after the knife-guy entered.

[01:46 PM] slv: oh she says it

[01:46 PM] slv: how does she know though

[01:46 PM] slv: if they're locked in from the outside

[01:46 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Cause the star lounge is a front for the resistance thats what i belive.

[01:46 PM] mpikeat2002: I suggest everyone reads the threads on ETS. They will provide alot of information. The questions you guys are asking has been gone over alot

[01:46 PM] slv: ohhhh i get it now

[01:46 PM] slv: on ETS someone mentioend that they sent in a crazed cop

[01:46 PM] slv: that would make sense

[01:46 PM] Catastrophe: meh. it was a virus. dude that entered was carrying the virus. he was "sweating blood" and there was blood coming from her skin later.

[01:47 PM] mpikeat2002: yep.

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[01:47 PM] slv: my question is: what becomes of rory

[01:47 PM] slv: they know she knows

[01:47 PM] slv: but they don't know who she is

[01:48 PM] Bobo_Minky: nooo

[01:48 PM] Bobo_Minky: thats my question

[01:48 PM] mpikeat2002: and he was crazed. And killing people. And people were "hunted down and torn apart" over the course of 2days. Everything that knife-dude was experiencing was sure to be what everyone else started to experience.

[01:48 PM] Bobo_Minky: ive asked it 3 times already

[01:48 PM] Bobo_Minky: ;)

[01:48 PM] slv: she went to star after the call

[01:48 PM] slv: along with others

[01:48 PM] mpikeat2002: yeah

[01:48 PM] slv: so they couldn't pick her out of the crowd then

[01:48 PM] mpikeat2002: she said "be there in 5 minutes"

[01:48 PM] slv: i hope she pops up later

[01:48 PM] Catastrophe: (Link: http://deadcop-opal.com/)http://deadcop-opal.com/ <--wonder what'll pop up there when that activates.

[01:49 PM] severthestars: How did we get that ?

[01:49 PM] slv: how'd you find that?

[01:49 PM] Catastrophe: just came across it on another page following this

[01:49 PM] Jubb: it was found long ago

[01:49 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: So whos phone was taped mia or rory.

[01:50 PM] Bobo_Minky: everyones?

[01:50 PM] Bobo_Minky: cops check phone records after event

[01:50 PM] Bobo_Minky: find phone call log

[01:50 PM] slv: i'm sure at this point in the future we can assume EVERYONE'S phone is tapped

[01:50 PM] mpikeat2002: yes.

[01:50 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Every one at the clube or just every one in the country.

[01:50 PM] slv: i don't think we have to think too hard about it

[01:50 PM] Bobo_Minky: check all emcompasing database to pull call

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[01:51 PM] Bobo_Minky: evryone in the country

[01:51 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: But it is somthing ot think about, keeps us form getting bored.

[01:52 PM] cynicmuse: psychologists are turning over patient records for "subversive thought" you'd better believe that every phone is tapped, probably every house, outhouse, and doghouse too

[01:52 PM] severthestars: [relativity final, later kids.]

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[01:53 PM] Catastrophe: interesting that the # for the us wiretap call can be heard from is cleveland based and there's "ohio" backwards in the uswiretap page, as well.

[01:53 PM] mpikeat2002: is there a way to pull up the parent directory of a website? Using some sort of program?

[01:53 PM] GhostFreeman: to my knowledge brute force is the only way

[01:54 PM] mpikeat2002: like this: (Link: http://www.mass.gov/Aitd/)http://www.mass.gov/Aitd/

[01:54 PM] mpikeat2002: stuff like that

[01:54 PM] GhostFreeman: which isn't hard since most sites follow the 'images/css/cgi-bin" sorta way

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[01:54 PM] mpikeat2002: being able to look through all possible files in the index of a website

[01:54 PM] GhostFreeman: mpikeat2002: that can be enabled/disabled with one line in httpd.conf

[01:54 PM] GhostFreeman: just saying

[01:55 PM] mpikeat2002: so are you saying the coder has complete control whether or not we can view the directories in any manner whatsoever?

[01:55 PM] Jubb: yea.

[01:55 PM] cynicmuse: it's called directory permissions

[01:56 PM] mpikeat2002: ahh

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[01:56 PM] mpikeat2002: I was just thinking about how I used to use FTP programs to upload my pages, and was wondering what I could do to gain access to that information.

[01:56 PM] mpikeat2002: But i guess that shuts me up

[01:57 PM] GhostFreeman: there's also the possibility of the directories being symlinks but after going through one you would probably be set right

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[01:57 PM] mpikeat2002: has anyone checked to see if directory permissions were disabled?

[01:58 PM] xybre: You cant transverse directories through a website, only the paths avaiable to the web server.

[01:58 PM] GhostFreeman: [httpd,apache2].conf is not a file that can't be accessed

[01:59 PM] xybre: double negative?

[01:59 PM] GhostFreeman: .htaccess could be accessed, sometimes those are used in local directories to spoof directories

[01:59 PM] mpikeat2002: I wish i knew more about web coding.

[01:59 PM] mpikeat2002: But my brains already full of c++ and java, and i doubt i have room in there haha

[02:00 PM] GhostFreeman: this isn't even coding, this is fucking with the http server

[02:00 PM] xybre: Your poor brain

[02:00 PM] GhostFreeman: you don't want to know what I know. its frightening

[02:00 PM] mpikeat2002: lol

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[02:02 PM] mpikeat2002: xybre, when you say "only the paths available to the web server", what do you mean

[02:02 PM] mpikeat2002: exactly

[02:02 PM] rue: Let us not get sidetracked too much. We cannot browse the directory listings for these sites.

[02:02 PM] GhostFreeman: the directories that Apache is serving?

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[02:04 PM] Bobo_Minky: arent these sites hosted on iis

[02:05 PM] mpikeat2002: was just asking for his knowledge on the subject for personal inquisitive reasons

[02:06 PM] Bobo_Minky: affirmation: ok

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[02:06 PM] GhostFreeman: i donno, let me nmap them

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[02:07 PM] Boohbah: you could always use netcraft instead of, you know, EVILLY HAXORING people

[02:07 PM] rue: Oh, come on.

[02:08 PM] rue: You can read the fucking response headers

[02:08 PM] GhostFreeman: gives me an excuse to use my shell :p

[02:08 PM] rue: ~~Also, I am withdrawing my support from anyone trying to circumvent game mechanics.

[02:08 PM] xybre: mpikeat2002: when you set up a web server it's configured to use a given directory as "web root" which is the main directory of a website, it can resolve symlinks, butunless on the server side they made a symlink to system root (/) then you cant access anything outside of those given directories

[02:09 PM] Jeriko--: Okay, so I've written emails to 42 entertainment, interscope and universal germany. I keep you guys informed about my situation.

[02:09 PM] GhostFreeman: so just where can I view the response headers then?

[02:09 PM] mpikeat2002: please do jeriko

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[02:09 PM] Jubb: jeriko where were you hosting the file?

[02:09 PM] GhostFreeman: yeah they're running IIS 6

[02:10 PM] Hacbarton: Jeriko: whats going on?

[02:10 PM] GhostFreeman: Universal sent him a C&D over one of the leaked tracks

[02:10 PM] Hacbarton: Which?

[02:10 PM] Boohbah: that is, until you exploit a vulnerability in the apache daemon, giving you the full priviliges of its user

[02:11 PM] Hacbarton: I have MVH on my blog, so I'm wondering...

[02:11 PM] Jubb: that's the one I believe

[02:11 PM] xybre: Stop talkign about hacking the site, that takes the fun out of the game, seriously. :p

[02:11 PM] GhostFreeman: I keep thinking it was MVH

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[02:12 PM] Hacbarton: Jeriko: How can they do that to you if they purposely leaked the tracks?

[02:12 PM] mpikeat2002: so xybre, so you're saying the webmaster would have had to gone out of his way to make it accessible to us

[02:12 PM] mpikeat2002: by symlinking the root directory

[02:12 PM] GhostFreeman: these are hosted on a rack server

[02:12 PM] GhostFreeman: probably shared

[02:12 PM] GhostFreeman: running IIS 6

[02:12 PM] GhostFreeman: there is no way the webmaster/sysadmin will look the other way for anyone else

[02:12 PM] pabloho: Can I ask what is ARG discussion????

[02:13 PM] mpikeat2002: about the ARG, alternate reality game.

[02:13 PM] mpikeat2002: the NIN ARG for new album year zero

[02:13 PM] cynicmuse: the riaa needs to screw itself

[02:13 PM] pabloho: got it - ty

[02:13 PM] GhostFreeman: does anyone want me to throw all the output I get from nmap into a text file for them? There's really nothing else of interest but i'll do it

[02:14 PM] Hacbarton: If there's nothing new, I'm out and be sure to put everything you find on the Wiki

[02:14 PM] GhostFreeman: I really want to emphasise nothing of interest

[02:14 PM] slv: yeah me too

[02:14 PM] GhostFreeman: so yeah i'll just keep it to myself

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[02:15 PM] slv: if anything, guys keep checking 105th and churchofplano

[02:15 PM] slv: because those ones have yielded less than the rest

[02:15 PM] slv: at least so far it seem

[02:15 PM] slv: good luck. wake me up if someone finds a new site

[02:15 PM] slv: btw paris show should be on about now right?

[02:15 PM] xybre: mpikeat2002: no, he obviously went out of his way to hide it.

[02:16 PM] slv: maybe later we'll have some new leaks

[02:16 PM] xybre: (Link: http://inthistwilight.com/)http://inthistwilight.com/ is almost assuradly unrelated btw.

[02:17 PM] `3kiLLLa: that shits not related

[02:17 PM] `3kiLLLa: at all

[02:17 PM] `3kiLLLa: 100%

[02:17 PM] `3kiLLLa: slv: most likely wont be a leak tonite

[02:17 PM] Masamune: I'm not counting on a new leak yet slv... No interesting new dots on (Link: http://yearzero.nin.com/...)http://yearzero.nin.com/... That was the latest leak theory right?

[02:17 PM] GhostFreeman: what about (Link: http://www.hyperpower.org)http://www.hyperpower.org

[02:17 PM] `3kiLLLa: coincidence, not related

[02:17 PM] mpikeat2002: thanks xybre.

[02:18 PM] GhostFreeman: just the block between mvh and the warning

[02:18 PM] slv: yeah the tunes are released with the dots

[02:18 PM] slv: but the dots come after the leak? or before

[02:18 PM] `3kiLLLa: the warning isnt next in line, probably the good soldier

[02:18 PM] `3kiLLLa: all the tracks from the promo will get released first

[02:18 PM] `3kiLLLa: dots come before the leak

[02:18 PM] iantm: who has this promo

[02:18 PM] `3kiLLLa: few radio stations

[02:19 PM] iantm: well go get it

[02:19 PM] iantm: chop chop

[02:19 PM] xybre: I just thoguht of something. They say upper class people take Opal in the eye with a needle. The song Down In It says "cross my heart and hope to die but the needle's already in my eye" I always wondered hwat he meant by that heh.

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[02:19 PM] GhostFreeman: I doubt he had this concept for YZ written back in the 80s so he's just making sendups to past albums

[02:20 PM] mpikeat2002: yeah haha

[02:20 PM] mpikeat2002: it probably had some relation to heroin usage.

[02:20 PM] GhostFreeman: like the obvious "Nothing can stop me now" we can hear in just about every major release at least once

[02:20 PM] GhostFreeman: he looked the part too

[02:20 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Silly question do u think 42 entertaimnet took ther name from the anser to life and every thing from hithikers guide to the galexie.

[02:20 PM] mpikeat2002: cross my heart hope to die.. but wait i've already discovered the needle so its too late. haha

[02:20 PM] iantm: here's occams razor: he doesn't write great lyrics and usually just uses shit that rhymes

[02:21 PM] xybre: GhostFreeman: I dunno, theres no reason he couldn't have created this universe when he was a teenager and just worked on it until he found a way to express it. But the connection is interesting even if it was just a coincidence.

[02:21 PM] GhostFreeman: Mr_Grim_N_Evil: I believe so

[02:21 PM] GhostFreeman: well that's just my take, I didn't pay attention during the 80s

[02:21 PM] Masamune: I thought Trent said he got the idea for this concept on the last tour...

[02:21 PM] GhostFreeman: or early 90s

[02:21 PM] `3kiLLLa: sitting on a bus..

[02:21 PM] iantm: np: Nine_Inch_Nails-Girls_Don't_Like_Me.mp3

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[02:23 PM] xybre: Opals aren't black

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[02:24 PM] slv: trent was always good at self-referencing earlier work in subtle manners

[02:24 PM] xybre: Well I guess some of them can be, but generally speaking, they're not.

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[02:26 PM] xybre: There's an Opal (hycephamitamyn) entry on wikipedia, it's the same text as one of the papers

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[02:26 PM] cynicmuse: the opal entry is a transcript of the paper on the consolidated mail webpage

[02:26 PM] xybre: Yeah that

[02:27 PM] cynicmuse: along with an excerpt from the AVT forum entry on it

[02:27 PM] GhostFreeman: in before VfD

[02:27 PM] xybre: I hadn't seen the chemical name for it previously, I mustve missed it

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[02:29 PM] GhostFreeman: history shows the creator is imonglue.com

[02:29 PM] mpikeat2002: xybre, was it you that mentioned opal being injected into the eye?

[02:29 PM] mpikeat2002: because that's an excellent note to keep track of

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[02:30 PM] GhostFreeman: or lmonglue.com

[02:31 PM] GhostFreeman: imonglue has no WHOIS entry

[02:31 PM] GhostFreeman: nor does lmonglue

[02:32 PM] xybre: mpikeat2002: yeah twas me

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[02:32 PM] GhostFreeman: i'll be back shortly, gotta go get dinner

[02:33 PM] supafly0506: hello all

[02:34 PM] supafly0506: i was sent to find new telephone numbers to call. don't want to be a douchebag, but also don't know much about what's going on

[02:34 PM] slv: two outta three ain't bad

[02:34 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: Go to the ets web site it explains whats going on.

[02:34 PM] aychseven: xybre: i was wondering about the name opal and the fact that opals aren't black myself. i figure its probably got more to do with the effect than the color, otherwise why not call it onyx or something similar

[02:34 PM] cynicmuse: find the entry that's got more than 200 pages

[02:34 PM] cynicmuse: read the first entry

[02:35 PM] cynicmuse: great overview

[02:35 PM] aychseven: supafly: (Link: http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20265&sid=9990f72fbb595421dc2234d0de1b76ff)http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20265&sid=9990f72fbb595421dc2234d0de1b76ff

[02:35 PM] cynicmuse: in the year zero forum

[02:35 PM] slv: yeah i got caught up to speed from just discovering this with that and a couple of hours

[02:35 PM] xybre: aychseven: yeah, according to the description is should be onyx, it's a technical error that doesnt add up

[02:35 PM] slv: you guys are reading way too into this

[02:36 PM] slv: it's just a name, forcing it to be a metaphor isn't necessary

[02:36 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: How can u b sure.

[02:36 PM] slv: because it's called opal

[02:36 PM] iamnobody2: wait, insip

[02:36 PM] slv: and not onyx

[02:36 PM] BYTE-Smasher: according to fuglyforums.com, imonglue.com's aim screename is blackassfrenzy

[02:37 PM] iamnobody2: i meant iantm who is gone

[02:37 PM] iamnobody2: [13:22] <iantm> np: Nine_Inch_Nails-Girls_Don't_Like_Me.mp3

[02:37 PM] xybre: slv,methaphor? It was described in one of the sites, they caleld it opal because its black and turns your eye black like opals. But they dont.

[02:37 PM] iamnobody2: where is that song from?

[02:37 PM] slv: yes but saying it should be called onyx does nothing

[02:37 PM] aychseven: they never said it was called opal because of the blackness

[02:37 PM] slv: it's called opal

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[02:37 PM] BYTE-Smasher: I think that was a joke iamnobody2

[02:37 PM] slv: nine inch nails should be called twelve centiliter rotary screws

[02:38 PM] slv: i mean, cmon

[02:38 PM] iamnobody2: oh, ok

[02:38 PM] xybre: slv: I was just saying it makes more sense, there's not many technical errors. The site might have been intentionally misleading.

[02:38 PM] slv: ah i'm just cranky, i've been up on this shit for like 14 hours

[02:38 PM] aychseven: i dont think it was an error

[02:39 PM] slv: it's a drug

[02:39 PM] aychseven: i mean, when was the last time you saw a drug name that has anything to do with its color?

[02:39 PM] slv: they call parsley dipped in formaldehyde "boat". does it have any qualities that boats have? hell no

[02:39 PM] xybre: aychseven: it said on one of the sites that was why. And drug street names almost always have a reason behind them at first

[02:40 PM] rue: I dunno, why do they call heroin 'smack'?

[02:40 PM] iamnobody2: well, green is sometimes used as a nickname for pot

[02:40 PM] slv: maybe a drug addict was like "lol dude your eyes look like opals"

[02:40 PM] slv: and it caught on

[02:40 PM] aychseven: xybre it said what?

[02:40 PM] slv: even though it was wrong

[02:40 PM] iamnobody2: which is where green day got their name

[02:40 PM] xybre: rue, because you smack your arm before the injection

[02:40 PM] supafly0506: jesus

[02:40 PM] slv: duh

[02:40 PM] slv: hahahahahaha

[02:40 PM] slv: where my junkies at

[02:40 PM] iamnobody2: they're going to hell, their music isn't bad, but they're responsible for blink182 and poppunk

[02:40 PM] rue: Right. This topic is probably a very low priority?

[02:41 PM] slv: yea rue

[02:41 PM] rue: NEIC

[02:41 PM] xybre: Then why were jumping on me for it?

[02:41 PM] xybre: All I did was make an observation

[02:41 PM] iamnobody2: i've also heard cocaine called white and white lady

[02:41 PM] mpikeat2002: lol I <3 your comments rue, you always putting us back on track.

[02:41 PM] slv: 105th airborne - churchofplano

[02:41 PM] insip: ?

[02:41 PM] slv: is where we should be focusing

[02:41 PM] slv: churchofplano especially, there have been no derivative sites from that one

[02:42 PM] insip: iamnobody2 ?

[02:42 PM] slv: and i'm convinced it has a hidden /folder

[02:43 PM] yourexwife: I VOTE YEAR ZERO SUX

[02:43 PM] billnye: only users lose drugs, kids

[02:43 PM] supafly0506: so, do any of you actually live underground or are you just die hard nin fans?

[02:44 PM] rue: Argh. Why would you think that the red pills have a hemorrhaging effect? They give them to *soldiers* The entire damn point is to have the OTHER GUYS bleed

[02:44 PM] xybre: supafly0506: neither :)

[02:45 PM] chanteneafk: i live underground

[02:45 PM] iamnobody2: sorry insip, you can see i accidently tabcompleted yer name

[02:45 PM] xybre: rue, the relation to the cop bleeding red, calling it bloody mary?

[02:45 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: I dont live under ground but i live in the underground.

[02:45 PM] chanteneafk: obviously you haven't seen labyrinth, cuz underground is the place to be

[02:46 PM] chanteneafk: ;)

[02:46 PM] * iamnobody2 np: Nine Inch Nails: Hammer Head - 3. Something I Can Never Have (live) [06:31m/160Kbps/44KHz/MP3]

[02:46 PM] rue: Yeah, but why the hell would you want your best soldiers get some kind of a hemorrhaging fever? It makes no sense

[02:46 PM] chanteneafk: i agree rue

[02:46 PM] rue: chanteneafk: Hehe, I just watched Labyrinth last night

[02:46 PM] chanteneafk: excellent...that's why your heads in the right place today, lol

[02:46 PM] Masamune: could be an unwanted side-effect

[02:47 PM] iamnobody2: well, they don't really give a crap about the soldiers

[02:47 PM] chanteneafk: and you're keeping us on track

[02:47 PM] insip: ah ok %)

[02:47 PM] cynicmuse: rue: where are you getting that red pills cause hemorrhaging? that makes no sense

[02:47 PM] rue: ETS

[02:47 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: I watched i spi on your grave yesterday i thught it was going to be great it was shit.

[02:47 PM] iamnobody2: if the druf could make them crazy enough to kill enough people to make it worth it, they would, hypothetically

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[02:47 PM] cynicmuse: if they have a post count less than 50, they're usually not to be trusted

[02:47 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: #spit.

[02:47 PM] cynicmuse: though some people also thought that plano was rural

[02:47 PM] cynicmuse: so who knows

[02:47 PM] rue: Blood loss == weakness. You do not want that in your soldiers. Come on now

[02:48 PM] iamnobody2: plano is where the cowboys play

[02:48 PM] iamnobody2: i have a post count of 0 and i'm completely trustworthy

[02:48 PM] iamnobody2: and handsome too

[02:48 PM] Chibs: What about rich?

[02:48 PM] Masamune: They don't call reds "Blisters" or "Bloody Mary" for nothing.

[02:48 PM] iamnobody2: no, dirt poor, i'm a manager at a taco bell

[02:49 PM] cynicmuse: bloody mary was a queen of england who got her kicks by torturing people

[02:49 PM] Chibs: Awh. Then you can forget a marriage.

[02:49 PM] cynicmuse: violence was favored under her reign

[02:49 PM] iamnobody2: well, i dunno about the red pills, but i'm saying they'd be perfectly willing to sacrifice soldiers if they got enough out of it

[02:49 PM] xybre: rue, I agree, but it could be the come-down, the BeTheHammer guy said there was no turning back

[02:49 PM] cynicmuse: that's why they're called bloody mary's

[02:49 PM] xybre: And he was apaprently on the red pill

[02:49 PM] cynicmuse: no turning back due to psychological damage

[02:49 PM] rue: Well, HE was still alive.

[02:49 PM] cynicmuse: fucking=killing

[02:49 PM] cynicmuse: after you've taken that shit

[02:50 PM] xybre: rue, yeah, didnt ay death

[02:50 PM] iamnobody2: thats some heavy shit

[02:50 PM] Jubb: maybe they were enhanced red pills they were testing, or some guy just had a fuckin bad sideeffect

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[02:50 PM] iamnobody2: its likely sideeffects are common

[02:50 PM] iamnobody2: to a violent regime a soldier is only worth how many people can kill

[02:50 PM] iamnobody2: he+

[02:50 PM] rue: OK, feel free to pursue this lead.

[02:50 PM] slv: i'm not a fan of star chamber having anything to do with the reds/blues

[02:50 PM] slv: because it spread to others

[02:51 PM] slv: the only way i would back that is if the guy that went in and started kililng came out alive

[02:51 PM] rue: I am just saying that *my personal opinion* is that such a connection is asinine.

[02:51 PM] slv: i agree

[02:51 PM] rue: I may be wrong, I may be right.

[02:51 PM] Masamune: I reckon they just wanted them dead, no red/blue testing.

[02:51 PM] slv: yeah

[02:51 PM] slv: the context just doesn't fit

[02:52 PM] slv: it's more of a virus/pathogen than anything else

[02:52 PM] xybre: I don't think it worsk either, but it is a possible connection.

[02:52 PM] xybre: Agree

[02:52 PM] slv: well what's the timeline for this?

[02:52 PM] slv: is this after the 105th were deployed overseas

[02:52 PM] slv: or before

[02:52 PM] aychseven: way after

[02:52 PM] slv: after, right? which means they wouldn't need to test drugs they alreayd had

[02:52 PM] Masamune: It's around the time parepin got introduced right?

[02:52 PM] aychseven: no

[02:52 PM] slv: 5 years after that

[02:52 PM] slv: i think

[02:52 PM] aychseven: you guys suck at dates

[02:52 PM] slv: give or take

[02:53 PM] slv: hahaha

[02:53 PM] slv: sorry, my calender doesn't consist of counting the dots in a glitch between two lines of blurred text

[02:53 PM] aychseven: 2009 = parepin

[02:53 PM] aychseven: 2022 = starchamber massacre

[02:53 PM] slv: ah snap

[02:53 PM] slv: HUGE difference

[02:53 PM] slv: 13 years

[02:53 PM] mpikeat2002: wow, parepin as early as 2009?

[02:54 PM] mpikeat2002: thats hot

[02:54 PM] aychseven: yes, if youd actually read this shit, maybe you'd see that

[02:54 PM] slv: how about you figure it out and we heckle YOU

[02:54 PM] xybre: sur god given anoin?

[02:54 PM] slv: jackass

[02:54 PM] mpikeat2002: I've read it all, just that there's so much information.

[02:54 PM] Masamune: Why 2022 for starchamber? Must have missed it.

[02:55 PM] mpikeat2002: 0000

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[02:56 PM] aychseven: 2009 was the big year that started a lot of stuff. west coast attacks, 105th was commissioned and sent into the middle east, parepin introduced

[02:56 PM] xybre: (Link: http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=sur+god+given+anoin)http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=sur+god+given+anoin

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[02:56 PM] Chibs: Seemed pretty clear that the letters just form the track ame

[02:56 PM] Chibs: *name

[02:57 PM] Chibs: 24.10 = 10th track, which is God Given. The letters from 24.10 combine to godgiven as well

[02:59 PM] Bobo_Minky: er ... of course if it lists all the letters in the track name you'll get the track name

[02:59 PM] xybre: Yeah, the letters do spell out the track names, at least the numbers we have

[03:00 PM] aychseven: yeah thats pretty clear. i think the question is the order. like the order that numbered things are introduced may have something to do with it. this is assuming the numbers mean more than just being IDs for pieces of info

[03:00 PM] xybre: So there's still more numbers out there apparently, unless they gave up after the leaked track list

[03:00 PM] Chibs: Did the track list leak then? I thought it was just published

[03:01 PM] aychseven: ? the tracklist is on yearzero.nin.com

[03:02 PM] xybre: Yeah, someone got the track list off somewhere, afterwards is when the site list updated and hasnt changed

[03:03 PM] aychseven: oh for people who have questions about the date, it's all been complied for you. (Link: http://ninwiki.com/Year_Zero_Timeline)http://ninwiki.com/Year_Zero_Timeline

[03:03 PM] * aychseven is away: smoke break

[03:04 PM] iamnobody2: wait, you can't smoke in here?

[03:04 PM] * iamnobody2 looks embarressed

[03:04 PM] mpikeat2002: lol

[03:04 PM] Bobo_Minky: nobodys perfect

[03:05 PM] iamnobody2: thanks man

[03:05 PM] iamnobody2: the other three nets i hang on i'm able to go by nobody

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[03:06 PM] iamnobody2: i'm wondering with the prescense, if more concepts from earlier albums might be intergrated, a la stephen king tying all of his books together late in his career

[03:08 PM] iamsomewhatdamag: ok ,red pill may cause an overload of adrenaline which also may cause endorphins to release, can cause hallucinations or tripping, and can stress the body to burst cappilaries and vessels

[03:08 PM] iamsomewhatdamag: which is what knife-wielding man was doing, fucking and killing

[03:09 PM] iamnobody2: freenode has nicklength=16?

[03:09 PM] iamsomewhatdamag: indeed

[03:10 PM] iamsomewhatdamag: still couldnt fit mine

[03:10 PM] iamnobody2: thats somewhat crappy

[03:10 PM] rue: All I saw was that he allegedly stabbed someone with possibly a knife. A bit of a stretch there.

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[03:10 PM] iamsomewhatdamag: speculation

[03:11 PM] aeryxz: i'm trying to believe

[03:11 PM] aeryxz: :)

[03:11 PM] iamsomewhatdamag: than again it would have to of been introduced to the whole club

[03:11 PM] aeryxz: so hobbit leak is dead

[03:11 PM] aeryxz: link*

[03:12 PM] aeryxz: and same with slaughterhouse-5?

[03:12 PM] aychseven: the slaughterhouse thing is relevant to that page

[03:12 PM] aeryxz: yeah

[03:12 PM] iamsomewhatdamag: i think it refers to our progress

[03:12 PM] aeryxz: but is he even playing in dresden?

[03:12 PM] aeryxz: like, i don't get why hobbit links to bilboa

[03:12 PM] aeryxz: then s-5 stops

[03:12 PM] aeryxz: is he putting literature links to places he will play?

[03:13 PM] aychseven: i dont think it has anything to do with dresden

[03:13 PM] aeryxz: mmm ok

[03:13 PM] aychseven: just things like in the book they use flamethrowers to burn bodies and such

[03:13 PM] aeryxz: i haven't read it, i'm going to pick it up today

[03:14 PM] aeryxz: mr reznor's been reading a lot :)

[03:14 PM] aeryxz: i would'nt be surprised if there's a passage from 1984

[03:14 PM] aeryxz: brave new world

[03:14 PM] iamnobody2: i read slaughterhouse 5 when i was in 9th grade or so

[03:14 PM] aychseven: yeah quite possible we'll see some reference in the future to those

[03:14 PM] iamnobody2: so, over 10 years ago

[03:14 PM] aychseven: who knows

[03:15 PM] iamnobody2: trent

[03:15 PM] aychseven: i never read it. was just going by what people have said in the us wiretap thread. from people that have read it. its on my list now for sure though

[03:15 PM] aeryxz: iamnobody2, is it a good book?

[03:15 PM] aeryxz: i heard it's sci fi

[03:15 PM] aeryxz: with time travel

[03:15 PM] aeryxz: :/

[03:16 PM] aychseven: slaughterhouse-five? no i dont think so

[03:16 PM] Jubb: I just read 1984 for the first time like 4 weeks ago

[03:16 PM] aeryxz: read brave new world

[03:16 PM] aeryxz: there's a drug called soma

[03:16 PM] Masamune: or watch THX1138

[03:16 PM] aeryxz: which reminds me of parepin

[03:16 PM] aeryxz: oh snap

[03:17 PM] aeryxz: i haven't seen that still

[03:17 PM] rue: No, S5 *definitely* has absolutely nothing to do with time travel.

[03:17 PM] aeryxz: worth gettin?

[03:17 PM] Masamune: It has a soma-like drug in it as well

[03:17 PM] aeryxz: rue: doesn't he have some brain condition that makes him see events from past and future

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[03:18 PM] iamnobody2: i don't really remember books i've read over 10 years ago aeryxz

[03:18 PM] aeryxz: got cha

[03:18 PM] aeryxz: :)

[03:18 PM] VaelekWork: man, bridge to teribithia comercials started coming on, and I was like woah, I read that 20 years ago lol

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[03:18 PM] iamnobody2: mebbe its the drugs, or just the fact that i read alot

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[03:19 PM] aeryxz: well

[03:19 PM] VaelekWork: it's the water

[03:19 PM] VaelekWork: you know it

[03:19 PM] aeryxz: ok so we're up to firing out the star chamber

[03:19 PM] aeryxz: figuring*

[03:19 PM] aeryxz: and there's no new leads atm

[03:20 PM] aeryxz: does anyone think that guy that the agent is interviewing is dead?

[03:20 PM] aeryxz: like he says sorry, and the file ends

[03:20 PM] aqueousecho: he is dead.

[03:20 PM] aychseven: yeah i think thats the consensus

[03:20 PM] rue: The aliens are able to access four dimensions. But that is not what the book is 'about'

[03:20 PM] aychseven: he doesnt say sorry though

[03:20 PM] aychseven: the agent does

[03:20 PM] aqueousecho: she says sorry

[03:20 PM] aeryxz: mm let me read it again

[03:20 PM] xybre: What was with the orange tears?

[03:21 PM] aeryxz: oh

[03:21 PM] aeryxz: who did they figure out the case number?

[03:21 PM] aeryxz: how*

[03:21 PM] mpikeat2002: how, you mean?

[03:21 PM] aeryxz: i missed that part

[03:21 PM] aychseven: the phone number

[03:21 PM] aqueousecho: do we figure what WAS with the orange tears aery?

[03:21 PM] Catastrophe: it was in the info of the main website, for one

[03:21 PM] aeryxz: ah

[03:21 PM] aqueousecho: did*

[03:21 PM] aychseven: when it was posted on here, i called and started typing while i was listening

[03:21 PM] Masamune: I thought the orange tears where tears with a small amount blood

[03:21 PM] mpikeat2002: catastrophe, where was it on the main website?

[03:21 PM] Catastrophe: view source

[03:21 PM] aychseven: i guess someone tried uswiretap.com

[03:21 PM] mpikeat2002: all i see is 24.3.3

[03:21 PM] mpikeat2002: ah

[03:22 PM] mpikeat2002: im glad to see people were using the meta tags

[03:22 PM] xybre: Masamune: thatd have been pink

[03:22 PM] mpikeat2002: for info

[03:22 PM] aychseven: i got it before using meta tags

[03:22 PM] Catastrophe: meh, i cheat

[03:22 PM] Catastrophe: lol

[03:22 PM] aeryxz: is there more info about the "red" pills and stuff?

[03:22 PM] aychseven: hehe

[03:23 PM] VaelekWork: did anybody make a list of *all* the tags and what pages they go to?

[03:23 PM] aeryxz: it might be a side effect

[03:23 PM] mpikeat2002: aych so you got it through the phonecall before you saw it in metas?

[03:23 PM] aychseven: yeah

[03:23 PM] aychseven: someone posted uswiretap.com

[03:23 PM] aychseven: here

[03:23 PM] mpikeat2002: k

[03:23 PM] aqueousecho: The guys actions fit with the description of the effects of the red pills, but it doesn't mention anything about orange tears

[03:23 PM] Masamune: Pink? I don't think so. That would be blood... with white paint or something haha

[03:23 PM] aychseven: and then it said it needed an incident number so i tried what i got from the phone

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[03:24 PM] aeryxz: the only known side effect from parepin is the seeing of prescence right?

[03:24 PM] pravus: VaelekWork: you could gather them up and post them on the wiki or something

[03:24 PM] aeryxz: red pill makes you lust for violence

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[03:24 PM] aychseven: zeryxz, there are plenty of side effects. twitches, constipation etc. the prescense is not necessarily a side effect

[03:24 PM] VaelekWork: I will after work if it hasn't been done. tis why I was asking.

[03:24 PM] mpikeat2002: aeryxz, there are tons of side effects from parepin

[03:24 PM] aeryxz: opal makes your pupils diliate black

[03:25 PM] aychseven: vaelek, do you log this chan?

[03:25 PM] mpikeat2002: parepin also causes sexual dysfunction, eh? or something like that

[03:25 PM] aychseven: someone posted them in here earlier today

[03:25 PM] iamsomewhatdamag: yeah nonagression

[03:25 PM] Mr_Grim_N_Evil: It cause a lack of the sex drive.

[03:25 PM] mpikeat2002: and the blue pill is referred to as (die-agra), and red pill erases line between killing and fucking

[03:25 PM] VaelekWork: aychseven yep. been logging today since 8am

[03:25 PM] mpikeat2002: whats the deal with all this sexual stuff

[03:25 PM] xybre: aeryxz: theres pictures of the prescence, and people not on parepin see it

[03:25 PM] VaelekWork: too much to read it all realtime heh

[03:25 PM] aychseven: heh yeah

[03:26 PM] mpikeat2002: all these chemicals aside from Opal correlate in that sense

[03:26 PM] aeryxz: i see

[03:26 PM] mpikeat2002: red pill makes people come... as they're killing?

[03:26 PM] iamnobody2: well, i'm sure will to be free and will to fuck are related

[03:26 PM] aychseven: good, we need some anti sex drive shit in the water. maybe stupid people will stop having so many kids ;)

[03:27 PM] mpikeat2002: haha

[03:27 PM] iamnobody2: yeah, but stupid people are the najority of the population

[03:27 PM] iamnobody2: we're fucked

[03:27 PM] mpikeat2002: why are the chemicals related to sex. That's fucked up.

[03:27 PM] aychseven: i dont think they're related, it just happens

[03:27 PM] aychseven: like constipation

[03:27 PM] xybre: aeryxz: opal makes the *whites* of yoru eyes black

[03:28 PM] aychseven: you tink they made the drug to constipate people?

[03:28 PM] iamnobody2: sex is rather imporatant to our internal wiring

[03:28 PM] mpikeat2002: parepin kills sex drive. blue pill called dieagra. red pill makes people get off (literally) as they kill someone.

[03:28 PM] pravus: has anyone looked at the HTML comments for (Link: http://www.uswiretap.com/71839j/)http://www.uswiretap.com/71839j/ ?

[03:28 PM] xybre: aychseven: the sites say consipation is a side effect of many mood alterting drugs (which it is)

[03:29 PM] airbag84: I think they made the red-pills cause orgasm when someone kills, it takes away the reality of death and makes the soldiers want to kill more

[03:29 PM] xybre: pravus: what about them?

[03:29 PM] pravus: xybre: nothing apparently

[03:29 PM] mpikeat2002: yeah airbag

[03:29 PM] pravus: it has to do with the way they lay out the page

[03:29 PM] xybre: pravus: they contain spans of words and things, mainly that are visiable otherwise on the page main

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[03:30 PM] pravus: they overly the convo onto itself for formatting

[03:30 PM] pravus: overlay*

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[03:30 PM] xybre: Basically.

[03:30 PM] Catastrophe: they do that everywhere.. i looked for a pattern but couldn't find any

[03:30 PM] aychseven: yeah no page as of yet has made use of comment tags to spread secret info or whatever you want to call it

[03:30 PM] VaelekWork: I think that's probably the most frequent "discovery" heh.

[03:30 PM] pravus: i just didn't notice it yesterday when i was looking in firebug

[03:31 PM] xybre: It seems to be just foramtting stuf. Then again, if you can find a purpose for the formatting, *that* would be interesting

[03:31 PM] pravus: has anyone found any secrets hidden within the HTML?

[03:32 PM] mpikeat2002: yeah people been looking at that a lot already

[03:32 PM] pravus: seems like the clues so far haven't been all that hidden, really

[03:32 PM] VaelekWork: I'm going to gather all of the comments into one place also to go through later tonight.

[03:32 PM] iamnobody2: hmmm in cave story red flowers turned the cute mimigas into frenzied killing machimes

[03:32 PM] pravus: except for the audio... but that kind of makes sense

[03:32 PM] airbag84: Someone intentionally released something into the club as it was a known hideout by the feds, they let the drug or virus do the work for the, plausible deniability is the name of the game these days

[03:32 PM] pravus: maybe we are searching for things that aren't there (yet)

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[03:33 PM] airbag84: we should stick with what he can gather from the information presented

[03:34 PM] Masamune: So, why was there a knife guy AND a drug/virus?

[03:34 PM] xybre: pravus: and images

[03:34 PM] aychseven: airbag i think you're a little late to the game. go to ETS and read the uswiretap thread

[03:34 PM] xybre: I'm guessing the clues will remain in media, not in code. The code for the sites is dead simple.

[03:34 PM] airbag84: the guy was the carrier of the drug/virus whatever the drug/virus is causes people to become psychopaths

[03:34 PM] pravus: xybre: i agree

[03:35 PM] airbag84: idid

[03:35 PM] xybre: code in this case means html code, not morse code :)

[03:35 PM] airbag84: i am trying to work the details we know into a viable situation relating to the entire ARG

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[03:36 PM] aychseven: yes yes its been done a million times the last two days though

[03:36 PM] aychseven: which is why i'm saying read the thread because those ideas are already posted in there

[03:36 PM] iamsomewhatdamag: thats alot of reading

[03:37 PM] mpikeat2002: yeah

[03:37 PM] xybre: airbag84: where did reznor call it a arg?

[03:37 PM] xybre: a/an

[03:37 PM] airbag84: i think it is important to go over them together and correct mistakes and false conclusions

[03:37 PM] mpikeat2002: but you came late into the game so you gotta play catchup

[03:37 PM] mpikeat2002: airbag, but he's saying that people have already done it.

[03:37 PM] mpikeat2002: I mean, hours on end discussion about same damn thing

[03:38 PM] airbag84: thats fine, you dont have to answer me

[03:38 PM] mpikeat2002: I'm just trying to help you find your answers. Read every few posts, and you will gather a knowledge of things.

[03:39 PM] aychseven: we're just saying no reason to rehash here what's already known and been theorized etc

[03:39 PM] airbag84: i read it, i am trying to come to more reliable conclusions than people on the message boards get to

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