This song is screaming to me that it's about the Presence.--[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 09:23, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
And I don't think this song was recorded during With_teeth. Trent stated specifically no songs were reused from then, all new material. -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 16:32, 7 April 2007 (PDT)