Talk:Discipline

Hey, are we gonna mention the video on nin.com? Cuz there were references to the ARG towards the end, and it cuts off the end of the song. and also, the multitrack version goes an extra 30-40 seconds, because it doesn't fade out. Are these mentionable? Armac 18:03, 28 April 2008 (PDT)

The video is NOT official, there's no call to mention it any more than Meathead's other videos. And as there is no multitrack "version", it's not really applicable to be added IMO. Sheepdean 03:23, 29 April 2008 (PDT)

I agree and disagree at the same time. Although it's unofficial, it should probably still have a mention somewhere in the article that The Meathead Perspective did a video for it. Same for EDIETS. --Tony^converse! 13:34, 29 April 2008 (PDT)

Sorry, i was not aware that the video was unofficial, but as for the multitrack version. What i was referring to was the extended outro containted in the multitrack. There IS a difference. Armac 21:30, 29 April 2008 (PDT)

Wait. I'm not questioning your intelligence here, but you seriously thought that the animated video of Nine Inch Nails waving their shirts in the air while Josh Freese wears a Devo hat and Alessandro Cortini wears American Indian memorabilia... was official? --Tony^converse! 13:50, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

Oh, and I don't think the fact that the radio version fades and the multitrack one doesn't deserves a spot in the Wiki article - I don't really see who would benefit from knowing that information. But if you want, go ahead - it couldn't hurt :-) --Tony^converse! 13:52, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

Actually, and quite unfortunately i did. I've never seen the meathead things, and i thought they were just screwing around. Feel free to question my intelligence. shoulda guessed that NIN would never dress like the men at work.Armac 19:41, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

To be honest I wasn't aware it wasn't official at first either. I had never heard of "meathead" and the link was on the NiN page so its surely not an unforgivable mistake? In any event I think the fact that Trent was obviously amused enough to draw attention to it makes the vid worth at least a mention.Honestmistake 06:31, 8 May 2008 (PDT)

I'm not sure if anyone else noticed, but Trent seems to have a couple "false starts" at the begninning of the song when he starts singing. Being that Trent is known for being a perfectionist, I don't see this as being an accident. There may be no meaning to it, but it is worth mentioning. Aeontriad

Lyrics

I know I'll catch flak for this, but would anyone agree the lyrics may or may not suggest Reznor is commenting on his change of style, starting with With_Teeth, towards a less overtly aggressive musical style that will forever be attributed to The Downward Spiral? I know many fans have criticized his new direction and to me, Reznor's "Discipline" sounds like a musing on his own music. Include this into the Wiki without potentially insulting either the band or the fans would be difficult however. D Boland 12:58, 7 May 2008 (PDT)

I see your point and it makes sense, but I really don't think the music is any less aggressive as it was on previous releases, but rather a different approach. As far the the subject matter of the song, only Trent can tell us what it's really about. Aeontriad

Artwork

If you turn the shape a certain way, it resembles the star portion or the AIR flag. Aeontriad

See those straws there? Quit clutching at them.

How can a lowercase 'd' shaped arrangement of squares resemble a star? Armac 16:16, 22 May 2008 (PDT)

NO! Not shaped like the star. Shaped like the section that CONTAINS the star. Don't be a fool. Armac 16:19, 22 May 2008 (PDT) (still)