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+ | == Subversive Network Member no. 24.24.1.1441? == | ||
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+ | If you look at the list of subversive members (http://www.exhibit24.net/net1.htm) there is a gap where no.24.24.1.1441 should be. The names above and below this gap are 'trenchrun' and 'trentcolep', indicating that the missing member's name could be 'trent'. I dunno if this could mean anything at all, just an interesting observation i made. | ||
+ | -- [[User:x1z.lachy|x1z.lachy]], 15:33 2nd October 2007 | ||
+ | :The missing username is trent_reznor, who is assumed to be the person captured in the ARG.--[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 07:13, 2 October 2007 (PDT) | ||
+ | :Exactly, and since the list is "Supporting evidence in the case against inmate [CLASSIFIED]" this would be proof that [CLASSIFIED] is trent reznor. | ||
+ | -- [[User:x1z.lachy|x1z.lachy]], 12:27 3rd October 2007 | ||
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-- [[User:justnine|justnine]], 15:17 27th April 2007 (GMT+0100) | -- [[User:justnine|justnine]], 15:17 27th April 2007 (GMT+0100) | ||
− | That probably is the case, plus a couple of new ideas are introduced into the fold. | + | --That probably is the case, plus a couple of new ideas are introduced into the fold. |
+ | ::I'm happy there's a site up with all of the URLs on it...it was getting pretty annoying leaving little pieces of paper with::maybe 4 URLs on it and sticking it in the desk of my school science lab...now i can write just one! -[[User:Lin xxx|lin]] 14:38, 30 April 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | Also, on the prospect of [CLASSIFIED] being Reznor... there is nothing to suggest that it could <b>not</b> be any other NiN members... but as of right now I believe that Reznor is the "best" choice to decide who is [CLASSIFIED].[[User:CrotchPope|CrotchPope]] 08:19, 27 April 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | Actually, I'm unconvinced. There could be more than one classified person - there are three mentions of "classified" - the one mentioned at 24.11.2's entry could well be TR, but the other two not. Until we have cast iron evidence, then this is personal opinion and you should probably remove the [CLASSIFIED] part from the wiki page and put it into this talk page instead! | ||
+ | It's nothing personal, it's simply because this is personal opinion and not cold, hard fact!<br/> | ||
+ | -- [[User:justnine|justnine]], 16:40 27th April 2007 (GMT+0100) | ||
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+ | :Or you could just put it in it's own section named theory which would leave it up there just not as fact. Oh and hasanyone attempted to contact the members of the two groups being watched on thelast exibit page that are listed as member/informant? I would but I'm broke and can't afford to join the spiral.-[[User:Kickemwhentheyredown|Kickemwhentheyredown]] 14:28, 27 April 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | :The mention at 24.11.2 is almost assuredly Trent Reznor. The mention of "Hi-rez" immediately after [CLASSIFIED] there catches my attention, particularly in the context of this site being an official BoM evidence dossier. The casual spelling 'hi-rez' seems out of place and a possible allusion to Reznor. But you're right; every mention of [CLASSIFIED] doesn't have to refer to the same person. Since the entire site is building a case, writing "performance by dissident musician [CLASSIFIED]" seems to indicate that this person is a musician, as opposed to the other person who isn't. Otherwise, why bother to specify "dissident musician"? It would be understood that this person is a musician if it was all about the same person. [[User:Tsguitar|Tsguitar]] 14:53, 28 April 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | :Could this case possibly be a conviction of the NIN members for this entire ARG? The Secure Broadcast Informatics site's mention of retroactive transmissions, combined with the degraded quality of all of the web sites leads me to believe that once they are caught sending the transmission, the government finds this arg in the past, and is now prosecuting NIN. Trippy, isn't it? [[User:Ixododae|Ixododae]] 14:53, 20 May 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | ::That's an interesting and perfectly valid theory. --[[User:Tony|Tony]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tony|converse!]]</sup> 09:32, 20 May 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | == /violence == | ||
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+ | any body else suspect that this simply refers to http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/violent.htm? [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 19:51, 28 April 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | YES! but i doubt Reznor/the company is humble enough to switch it now that we've seen it and will subsequently make a new page lol [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 19:59, 29 April 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | But why didn't they put down the other fourm topics? [[User:Blank|Blank]] 20:40, 7 May 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | all other fourm topics are linked directly from AnotherVersionoftheTruth.com [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 06:27, 27 May 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | But so is /violent [[User:Blank|Blank]] 02:02, 28 May 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | perhaps to draw attention to ballgameover.mp3 ? [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 21:35, 28 May 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | Yeah, maybe, I'm not in the mood to argue [[User:Blank|Blank]] 23:51, 28 May 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | == 2007? == | ||
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+ | 24.5.2 lists www.OpenSourceResistance.net as "Archived version of a notorious dissident site that began operation in 2007." Not "BA -15"? (28 April 2007 23:17 PST J.theYellow) | ||
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+ | :Well i think this might have to do with the fact that when the operating site referenced (OSR) began it's operation, the government and people still referred to the year as 2007, not BA -15 | ||
+ | :But then again, i also think that the above comment about them messing up on this page is valid and could follow suit... (I actually think that this was supposed to be actpatriotic but we found it too soon, they scrapped, and did this quickly, and were sloppy... but bagga, who cares? it's still the ARG! wootwoot) [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 20:03, 29 April 2007 (PDT) | ||
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+ | == Cataloging System? == | ||
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+ | Many people involved in the Year Zero Experience often believe that the Pilgrims sent back these sites with the numbers stamped on them as part of the glitches and "static" that were part of sending these sites back through time, but it now seems that the "24.xx.xx" numbers were there to begin with, hence the name "Exhibit 24". Where exactly that I'm going with this is that perhaps the government put the numbers on the sites and videos as part of a nationwide internet cataloging system to help target the sites marked as "subversive" and the certain [uncredited] individuals who run these domains. If these numbers had been added by the scientists at SBI, how would this site catalog them as it does, and still have the "corrupted" look of being sent back by the Pilgrims? How would such numbers be spoken in recordings of government officials (such as the call from Free Rebel Art) pertaining to warning codes created to catch the "rebels" red-handed? Although, the same numbers in morse code appear in the recordings on the AVOTT forums. Perhaps they don't realize how close the government is watching them? If a cataloging system is the case, and this is the end of the 24th exhibit, perhaps there's an "Exhibit 25"? Further evidence: There is no unique, unmentioned number visible on this site, perhaps they believe that if they work for the government that they are completely loyal? | ||
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+ | Yet another theory: all the AVOTT mp3's are said to be "broadcasts". Maybe they were actually heard on radio? And perhaps there's a site for some type of "underground broadcasting", as once before done by Neil Czerno (mentioned on The Price Of Treason)? -- [[User:BJW|BJW]] 15:23, 21 May 2009 (PDT) | ||
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+ | == Capital G Garageband? == | ||
− | + | Which stem track has the pictures hidden in it? [[User:Knotrice|Knotrice]] 04:58, 17 May 2010 (PDT) | |
+ | :I don't have them on here anymore, but to my memory it was a track that was unrealted to Capital G. Check the nin.com ones, the YZR ones may be different. [[User:Sheepdean|sheepdean]] [[User_talk:Sheepdean|Try to speak as clearly as you can]] 05:55, 17 May 2010 (PDT) |
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Subversive Network Member no. 24.24.1.1441?
If you look at the list of subversive members (http://www.exhibit24.net/net1.htm) there is a gap where no.24.24.1.1441 should be. The names above and below this gap are 'trenchrun' and 'trentcolep', indicating that the missing member's name could be 'trent'. I dunno if this could mean anything at all, just an interesting observation i made. -- x1z.lachy, 15:33 2nd October 2007
- The missing username is trent_reznor, who is assumed to be the person captured in the ARG.--Leo3375 07:13, 2 October 2007 (PDT)
- Exactly, and since the list is "Supporting evidence in the case against inmate [CLASSIFIED]" this would be proof that [CLASSIFIED] is trent reznor.
-- x1z.lachy, 12:27 3rd October 2007
Speculation
It is suspected that Exhibit Twenty Four is a "catch-up" site, listing all of and linking to the ARG sites in order to provide a back-story research point to people just joining the ARG.
At least, that's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.
-- justnine, 15:17 27th April 2007 (GMT+0100)
--That probably is the case, plus a couple of new ideas are introduced into the fold.
- I'm happy there's a site up with all of the URLs on it...it was getting pretty annoying leaving little pieces of paper with::maybe 4 URLs on it and sticking it in the desk of my school science lab...now i can write just one! -lin 14:38, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
Also, on the prospect of [CLASSIFIED] being Reznor... there is nothing to suggest that it could not be any other NiN members... but as of right now I believe that Reznor is the "best" choice to decide who is [CLASSIFIED].CrotchPope 08:19, 27 April 2007 (PDT)
Actually, I'm unconvinced. There could be more than one classified person - there are three mentions of "classified" - the one mentioned at 24.11.2's entry could well be TR, but the other two not. Until we have cast iron evidence, then this is personal opinion and you should probably remove the [CLASSIFIED] part from the wiki page and put it into this talk page instead!
It's nothing personal, it's simply because this is personal opinion and not cold, hard fact!
-- justnine, 16:40 27th April 2007 (GMT+0100)
- Or you could just put it in it's own section named theory which would leave it up there just not as fact. Oh and hasanyone attempted to contact the members of the two groups being watched on thelast exibit page that are listed as member/informant? I would but I'm broke and can't afford to join the spiral.-Kickemwhentheyredown 14:28, 27 April 2007 (PDT)
- The mention at 24.11.2 is almost assuredly Trent Reznor. The mention of "Hi-rez" immediately after [CLASSIFIED] there catches my attention, particularly in the context of this site being an official BoM evidence dossier. The casual spelling 'hi-rez' seems out of place and a possible allusion to Reznor. But you're right; every mention of [CLASSIFIED] doesn't have to refer to the same person. Since the entire site is building a case, writing "performance by dissident musician [CLASSIFIED]" seems to indicate that this person is a musician, as opposed to the other person who isn't. Otherwise, why bother to specify "dissident musician"? It would be understood that this person is a musician if it was all about the same person. Tsguitar 14:53, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
- Could this case possibly be a conviction of the NIN members for this entire ARG? The Secure Broadcast Informatics site's mention of retroactive transmissions, combined with the degraded quality of all of the web sites leads me to believe that once they are caught sending the transmission, the government finds this arg in the past, and is now prosecuting NIN. Trippy, isn't it? Ixododae 14:53, 20 May 2007 (PDT)
/violence
any body else suspect that this simply refers to http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/violent.htm? ylbissop 19:51, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
YES! but i doubt Reznor/the company is humble enough to switch it now that we've seen it and will subsequently make a new page lol Jgrizzy89 19:59, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
But why didn't they put down the other fourm topics? Blank 20:40, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
all other fourm topics are linked directly from AnotherVersionoftheTruth.com ylbissop 06:27, 27 May 2007 (PDT)
But so is /violent Blank 02:02, 28 May 2007 (PDT)
perhaps to draw attention to ballgameover.mp3 ? ylbissop 21:35, 28 May 2007 (PDT)
Yeah, maybe, I'm not in the mood to argue Blank 23:51, 28 May 2007 (PDT)
2007?
24.5.2 lists www.OpenSourceResistance.net as "Archived version of a notorious dissident site that began operation in 2007." Not "BA -15"? (28 April 2007 23:17 PST J.theYellow)
- Well i think this might have to do with the fact that when the operating site referenced (OSR) began it's operation, the government and people still referred to the year as 2007, not BA -15
- But then again, i also think that the above comment about them messing up on this page is valid and could follow suit... (I actually think that this was supposed to be actpatriotic but we found it too soon, they scrapped, and did this quickly, and were sloppy... but bagga, who cares? it's still the ARG! wootwoot) Jgrizzy89 20:03, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
Cataloging System?
Many people involved in the Year Zero Experience often believe that the Pilgrims sent back these sites with the numbers stamped on them as part of the glitches and "static" that were part of sending these sites back through time, but it now seems that the "24.xx.xx" numbers were there to begin with, hence the name "Exhibit 24". Where exactly that I'm going with this is that perhaps the government put the numbers on the sites and videos as part of a nationwide internet cataloging system to help target the sites marked as "subversive" and the certain [uncredited] individuals who run these domains. If these numbers had been added by the scientists at SBI, how would this site catalog them as it does, and still have the "corrupted" look of being sent back by the Pilgrims? How would such numbers be spoken in recordings of government officials (such as the call from Free Rebel Art) pertaining to warning codes created to catch the "rebels" red-handed? Although, the same numbers in morse code appear in the recordings on the AVOTT forums. Perhaps they don't realize how close the government is watching them? If a cataloging system is the case, and this is the end of the 24th exhibit, perhaps there's an "Exhibit 25"? Further evidence: There is no unique, unmentioned number visible on this site, perhaps they believe that if they work for the government that they are completely loyal?
Yet another theory: all the AVOTT mp3's are said to be "broadcasts". Maybe they were actually heard on radio? And perhaps there's a site for some type of "underground broadcasting", as once before done by Neil Czerno (mentioned on The Price Of Treason)? -- BJW 15:23, 21 May 2009 (PDT)
Capital G Garageband?
Which stem track has the pictures hidden in it? Knotrice 04:58, 17 May 2010 (PDT)
- I don't have them on here anymore, but to my memory it was a track that was unrealted to Capital G. Check the nin.com ones, the YZR ones may be different. sheepdean Try to speak as clearly as you can 05:55, 17 May 2010 (PDT)