Talk:Art Is Resistance

I think the .38 to .45 is a reference to gun calibers personally, not religion. Oh and see how they mention World War 4 in there, asif world war 3 has already happened? cool.

And on the 19th of April 1995 a truck bomb at Federal Building in Oklahoma City explodes, killing 168 in an anti-government movement. It seems to fit the motive of the thread, make art not war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

--Quentin 17:11, 22 February 2007 (PST)

"It seems to fit the motive of the thread, make art not war." It does? How does the bombing tie in to art? I don't see that bombing as an act of making art instead of war, which is what it would need to be to fit any kind of motive to the thread; I don't see how you're connecting that bombing to any kind of motive. Further, should that kind conjecture be on the main page for this entry? That's the kind of assumption that belongs on the Talk page, but to see it in the actual entry only takes away from the credibility of the page/site. --Tsguitar 22:08, 22 February 2007 (PST)

The Oklahoma Bombings were also looked at as a government conspiracy to cover up other things. Therefore, the whole backdrop of the album (the U.S. Gov't wagind war on the U.S. citizens) can be seen through this event. It could be when the government started to 'wage' war on the citizens or to cover up it's own mistakes or actions... I dunno, haven't done enough research on it, but it's interesting... I have continually tried to find if anyone that was killed in the bombings was also born on the dates given for the child's mom... Any info? Jgrizzy89 17:42, 22 February 2007 (PST)

I believe the actual identy of the childs mother is unimportant, the dates just there to link us to the bombing. Year Zero is a fictional environment, so i think the point of mentioning a real world incident would be to tie current real-world events to the possible grim future of Year Zero and give it some weight. Possibly the whole idea behind Year Zero is to give us a glimpse of hell, then point out what's really going on in the world that's driving us to a similar fate, and what we should do about it. --Quentin 17:56, 22 February 2007 (PST)

This is probably a -really- big stretch, but in the dates listed, if you add up the digits of the first few numbers (1,10, 1967), it adds up to... 24 (1 + 1 + 9 + 6 + 7). If you then look at "Apr 19, 1995" seperate that into "Apr 19" and "1995", convert April to it's month number (4) and add up the digits to the first one (4 + 1 + 9), you end up with 14. The sum of the last few digits (1 + 9 + 9 + 5) are also 24, leaving you with 24.14.24. Total stretch, but track 14 on Year Zero is Another Version of the Truth, the fourteenth character being the last one: 'h'.

Thats a pretty good observation. One more thing about that site is the dates all read 02/03/000 in both the posts and the reproductions in the background, unlike on the rest of the forum where 02/10/0000 is reflected as 02/04/0000. An exception to this though is Iridium's post where 02/03/0000 which appears to reflect as 02/00/0000... no day? --Quentin 18:58, 22 February 2007 (PST)