Talk:Year Zero Numbers

Forgive my ignorance, but can someone please elaborate on how the numbers "correspond" with specific letters? (e.g. 24.3.1

Found in the Morse Code at the end of recording found at phone number 1-216-333-1810.

Corresponds with the letter "s" )

Thanks. --Wesker

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I made this page because the bible references are only a theory, so the numbers shouldn't be automatically called "bible references"

I have no problem with the bible references being merged into this article. I envisioned this article having more bulk - more explanations about where the numbers were found, but it turns out that there is really no need. Nympholept 10:07, 16 February 2007 (PST)

Rearranging all the letters from the clues I have found that:

God given not in US war

can be found, does this mean anything? -velvolver

UPDATE: God given nation can be spelled out with WR U S left over...and with the new clue Y is there also.

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The clue for 24.15.8 is a little iffy. How can we determine that's a clue just by counting the beats? We could do that for any song. Further more, the number 8 falls out of sequence with the numbers before it, and a good amount of these numbers are sequencial. I don't think 24.15.8 is a clue without further evidence to prove it. --Velvolver 11:13, 1 March 2007 (PST)

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With the new clues, the track number theory would bump year zero into having 19 tracks. I think this completely disproves that the numbers are referring to track numbers now. We need to look elsewhere than the year zero track listing and the Bible, as neither have been fruitful. --Velvolver 11:13, 1 March 2007 (PST)

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The Track Number + Letter Offset theory seems weak, unless it's meant to be an anagram. The "God Given" in the text doesn't seem to surprising since (a) "God Given" is the track title of track 10, and (b) nearly all the number sequences are sequential. So the fact that "godgiven" is clearly seen in the string of "corresponding characters" shouldn't be given too much weight.--Mr z 17:30, 28 February 2007 (PST)

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The clue for 24.19.1 is weak, too. I don't see how that works. A screenshot would be nice backup for that one. --Tsguitar 21:18, 28 February 2007 (PST)

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(Kept for historic purposes I guess, but now I believe 19.1 is a clue, read below) I agree Tsguitar, the clue says that the >'s count as the number 19. Yet I don't see enough > to equate a 24, or an extra > left over for the 1. This isn't like the auto response e-mail on an earlier clue with the dashes between the 24 underscores and the other numbers.

Further more, are there clues in the HD-DVD version of BYIT?

addon: My mistake, don't add the Brackets all together, add line per line. Example: >> 2, >>>> 4 > 1 etc...

I see it now. Thanks for the clarification. --Tsguitar 22:36, 1 March 2007 (PST)

Federal Orderly Conduct Act

How about the fact that one of the numbers, 24.13.1, directly references a section of the Federal Orderly Conduct Act?

I'll be speaking within the context of the Year Zero universe after this sentence - just saying this to avoid confusion.

Unless the raid of Art Is Resistance was a hoax, those who have been spreading the numbers have a lot of explaining to do. All of the numbers have been in the form 24.{3-19}.{1-8}, just like the section of the Act. So, everyone who has posted a number in this form, both government sanctioned and resistance, has been directly referencing a law that should be publicly documented.

I think this is a strong clue to the numbers' significance. A copy of the Federal Orderly Conduct Act would be helpful (guess we'll just have to wait for them to write that one in).

By the way, I honestly didn't know that someone on echoing the sound already made this connection. Still worth brining it up here.

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That's an excellent idea...you should have signed that post. Perhaps each number is a part of the Act that was violated by the website. Are the websites scrambled due to being attacked by the Feds or by distortion from time travel (part of another theory).--Velvolver 11:39, 2 March 2007 (PST)

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Thanks. Not sure if there's anyway to prove it now, but the last post was mine. But anyway, assuming that the Church Of Plano is government sanctioned, why would the Feds attack it? --Augmatic 11:52, 2 March 2007 (PST)

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You can nearly sig anything, I've left about half the sigs on my posts. But the feds attacked the church of plano?

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It seems more likely to me that the Federal Orderly Conduct Act warning was just a convenient way to give us another number. Citing specific sections of the act doesn't seem particularly interesting by itself, even with the act in hand. --Mr z 22:19, 3 March 2007 (PST)

Significance to /0024 ?

I can't help but think that these numbers have something to do with the page http://yearzero.nin.com/0024. All of the numbers start with 24. They don't refer to line numbers and characters in the HTML source for the page, nor (x, y) pixel references in the image. Does anyone else follow this train of thought? --justnine 16:59, 7 March 2007

Well, Year Zero is Halo 24. Just a thought. --Mr z 11:09, 7 March 2007 (PST)

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Numbers equal Dating

With the new site from the lithograph, mailstrom, I noticed the sent date was 06 0000. And the number on the page is 24.1.1

I believe that the numbers could just be a way of dating the events of year zero, giving us a time line. Currently starting with mailstrom and so far ending with the operationswamp site.

--Velvolver 07:37, 12 March 2007 (PDT)

I'm not so sure. Operation Chip Sweep is dated back in January and the site has the number 24.20.2. In contrast, Mailstrom has 24.1.1 and is also dated in January.--Mr z 09:47, 12 March 2007 (PDT)

Sequential Runs: Just a grouping mechanism?

So far all the 24.x.y sequences have consecutive runs for "y". They also seem to come in clusters sharing the same value for 'x'. Could it be that these breadcrumbs are merely there to let us know that a particular set of sites and other artifacts should be considered as a group, and if a number is missing in the sequence that we need to go look for the missing member of the group? In that case, these are just the edges of the puzzle pieces, showing us how the sites/artifacts fit together, and not much more. Not terribly satisfying, but judging by the patterns, it makes a certain amount of sense. --Mr z 11:11, 12 March 2007 (PDT)

Could these be IP addresses?

Could these be the last three parts of IP addresses? It wouldn't be inconceivable that all of ??.24.xx.xx to be registered by the marketing company. If the the first number (??) could be found or just guessed at (there's only a limited number of IPv4 numbers available to US sites) these may mean something. Also IP addresses can be located (in real world terms and in terms of DNS) by this tool, -- OTW 17:15, 12 March 2007 (PDT)

IP addresses always have four sets of numbers. -Heroicraptor 17:22, 12 March 2007 (PDT)

It would also be a bit of a stretch considering it's Halo 24, and they don't put down the first set of digits. --Tony 17:25, 12 March 2007 (PDT)

Unannounced Tracks?

someone mentioned on another discussion page the possibility that the rows of zeros at the bottom of the yearzero.nin.com tracklist may indicate tracks that the titles have not been released for.

there appears to be 6 to 8 discerneble lines of 0s, suggesting a total tracking of 22-24 tracks...

if so, then maybe the number sequence still makes some sense?--killjoy 00:32, 13 March 2007 (PDT)

Going on that theory, I'd find it more plausible that those 6-8 lines correspond to the various texts we've found references to. --Mr z 07:51, 13 March 2007 (PDT)

The snippets of text bleeding through the various pages are a product of the Pilgrims Expierement from SBI (The Flash IRC Conversation rather explains that whole situation on the Pilgrims Page.) at least, that's what corresponds most directly to why that text is all over the place. --killjoy 08:35, 13 March 2007 (PDT)

Please explain the text bleeding from the pilgrims experiment! Also I highly doubt the numbers refer to the track listings anymore, that was shot all to hell with 24.19.X showed up. There's tons better theories on what the numbers are, and a 22-24 track album would have to be a double disc.--Velvolver 08:43, 13 March 2007 (PDT)