Talk:Year Zero Research

Hi guys. I have a suggestion to make. How bout that, apart from the main story timeline we also compile a detailed timeline about how things have been found ? I have a hunch it might come in handy at some point, and some people will probably be asking about it anyway. The closest thing we have to this now is the "resumed" set of events in the main page of this wiki. I don't mind helping if you guys think it's a good idea (or if it's already being done and i haven't noticed).

S3phiroth

After discussion on IRC, i'm starting that page :) S3phiroth 11:53, 20 February 2007 (PST)

it's here: Research Timeline S3phiroth 13:02, 20 February 2007 (PST)

Found this site the other day: http://inthistwilight.com/

May or may not be related, but I got the following email reply: Thank you for your email. We regret that the answers you seek are not here. Hopefully you will find what you are looking for soon.

There will be no changes or further information available in the near future.

inthistwilight

Also, the source code for the page contains the following text:

!-- in this twilight -- meta name="Description" content="twilight is coming."

!-- there are no secrets --

No idea how to create a wiki page, but I thought it beared posting...

I looked at the inthistwilight website again and they changed the code. It now says <meta name="Description" content="twilight is going." /> instead of the original "twilight is coming". In addition, the old page had the comment "!-- there are no secrets --" and now that comment is gone.

Would it be possible for somebody or some group of people to do the same bruteforce URL attack that was done to locate some of the hidden images? I'm sure something will turn up for the website.--Drake 00:56, 23 February 2007 (PST)

I think this is unnecessary. Check out the article on: theNINhotline --Wolf 01:00, 23 February 2007 (PST)

'I Am Trying To Believe' in YZ trailer

First off, I think there should be a trailer section added to the research page with a link to the QT trailer/page for 'Year Zero.'

Secondly, talking about the YZ trailer, a couple seconds into the trailer, a blue highway sign flashes across the screen. Pausing on it, though unclear, you can see that it reads "I AM TRYING TO BELIEVE." This happens before the camera jerking to show the Presence.

I have no idea how to help with wikis. So this is my two cents.

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I'm very pleased to see that the Strong Leads section on Year Zero Research DOES NOT have 24.15.8 as a clue. This is a very very weak lead in my opinion. It still needs to get scrapped from the numbers page, but I'm not bold enough to do it.

Also, as posted below behind the 24.19.X clues, I think the hypothesis that it's yearzero's track listings is completely shot now...And the bible references are to obvious and don't match up with anything in the ARG.

If it was a bible reference, it would be obvious like Carolines password (Mat)--Velvolver 08:56, 1 March 2007 (PST)

Year Zero Homepage Observation

Notice, when you go to:

http://yearzero.nin.com/

And view the source, the order of links (for the imagemaps) is in the following order:

img/31.html img/22.html img/14.html img/25.html img/10.html img/03.html img/19.html img/28.html img/07.html img/39.html img/12.html

Which could suggest a new pattern...

31 22 14 25 10 03 19 28 07 39 12

When converted to letters (the ones in brackets mean I've counted 27 as A again, etc):

(E) V N Y J C S (B) G (M) L

... Nothing? Maybe...

It's not linked from the page http://yearzero.nin.com/, but there is also http://yearzero.nin.com/img/86.html as well. It appears to be identical to http://yearzero.nin.com/0024/. I suspect that they're revealing links over time, so this may be forthcoming. The JPEGs of the album cover from 86.html and /0024/ are byte-for-byte identical, but named differently. --justnine, 12:48 07 March 2007

The Mailstrom

thanks for the fixes s3ph! added what i found so far. there's more there though. --killjoy 01:12, 12 March 2007 (PDT)

Finding links

In Firefox, you can find all the outbound links in a page by pressing Ctrl-I to get the page information, and then selecting the "Links" tab. (Alternately, you can right click and use "View Page Info.") Is there a similar technique in IE? Is it worth adding this to the note that gives hints on reading these websites? --Mr z 21:38, 12 March 2007 (PDT)

Tabulated Sites List

I have tabulated the sites list and added direct site links, also adding the IP address with the hope that we can plot a sequence in the IP addresses and discover newer sites. If more space is needed in future, shrink the direct site links with square brackets - it turns something like http://blah/ into [1]. --justnine 13:59, 13 March 2007 (GMT)

Tracklists about God

Notice how everything on this album is about God...

1. Hyperpower!....................From God
2. "The Beginning Of The End......Of belief in God
3. "Survivalism...................With God
4. "The Good Soldier..............For God
5. "Vessel........................From God
6. "Me, I'm Not...................God
7. "Capital G.....................For 'God'
8. "My Violent Heart..............From God
9. "The Warning...................From God
10. "God Given.....................(self explanatory)
11. "Meet Your Master..............Who is God
12. "The Greater Good..............Is God
13. "The Great Destroyer...........Is me... But God made me that way
14. "Another Version Of The Truth..Listen to God
15. "In This Twilight..............That God Made
16. "Zero-Sum......................This one is just wierd, but it is actually about God

Let me be the first to say WTF. Not even half of those are about God. Yes some mention God, but it doesn't mean it's about God. Hyperpower! is more of an intro and just brings in the fact that America is pretty much an empire now, and how horrific a situation the world is in (screaming and gun fire).

TBOTE has reference's to God, but it's about how people use God to justify their actions. Survivalism, nothing there. Good Soldier, again like TBOTE, the only reference to God was to justify their actions (soldiers being told they're doing God's work). I could go further on every single song, but suffice it to say I strongly disagree with this and the meanings of the songs are very varied from just being about one subject. -Velvolver 11:50, 8 April 2007 (PDT)

I have to agree here with Velvolver. But, I will say the album as a whole is about God, and how we as humans simply use Him as a puppet, or scapegoat. I love the songs In This Twilight and Zero Sum, because after an album full of war, hate and disbelief in God, everyone is forced to face up to the truth and realize "We weren't right. Everything we thought, believed and lived for was false, and there really was something greater going on." Of course by this point it is too late to do anything. This album has a very distinct and strong appeal to human conscious. Trent is trying to get us to see, just as he saw through his addictions and sobriety, that we are all doing things the wrong way, and if we do not change, if we do not take the time to fix things, well nothing lasts forever. Anyways, 04/17/2007 here we come. -Crazyninfan

"The Great Destroyer" - affects on frogs

I was listening to Year Zero this weekend. At around dusk, when the frogs get annoyingly aboxious in the field near my apartment in western Washington I went on my back deck while "The Great Destroyer" was playing with the door open. When the lyrics were done and the crazy sounds began the frogs got much louder than they were. A minute or so into the noise I began hearing what I presumed to be the slapping of their bellies on the concrete as if they were drawn to the sound. When the song was over and changed to "The Beginning of the End" (Random play), the frogs were completely silent.

I can't help but wonder if the sounds were intentionally made to promote this rise in the frogs. With what the lyrics and title are implying, Reznor's change in tone to a semi-prophet (I feel if he were a true prophet he would be a bit more straight with his prophecies and not require people pay to join his fan club to submit inquiries like this to him directly), and the plague of frogs summoned by Moses preceding the Exodus from Egypt; does he really hope that people will not see that he is "The Great Destroyer"?

The album is about God and the beast's manipulation of God's will. I am trying to believe that Reznor's intentions in his recent works that he is trying to warn us of this. I feel that he interchangibly uses God references to both point out this manipulation and to point out that there is still a good God that we must align ourselves with, and that God is not the one manipulated by the beast to control the masses.

This album has opened my eyes and caused me to pursue more knowledge on the prophecies. Yesterday, Easter, I came accross this site - http://www.worldslastchance.com/. While I am disinclined to fall for every off the wall apocalyptic conspiracy theory, which I have seen too many of, this one seems different. It is very straightforward and I wonder if what is stated in the article on this site is what Reznor is cryptically trying to warn mankind of. I am not sure of the reaction this will get, however, I cannot be silent about what I have found over the weekend since listening to Year Zero. 4/9/2007 (PST).