Talk:Red Horse Vector

On Grace the Teacher, Jeremiah says his ex-girlfriend, Dina, is from Tajikistan. Does her or her family have some connection with the RHV incident that happened there?

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So, anyone else noticing that "red horseman" and "red pills" (from bethehammer.net) both cause homicidal rage reactions? Are they linked? If so, which came first? Could be that the pharmaceutical companies are secretly supplying terrorists with an agent they already have a cure for to generate more revenue from both the US and abroad. Or it could all be staged by the US to control the populace by fear. -Dij

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is that his dog at the end of the video? and where does his jacket go? -tocz

My guess: it's a dog that was put in with him at some missing point in the footage. Probably to illustrate the violent tendancies of someone (even a peacable diplomat) under the effects of Red Horseman. Just a guess though. -Dij

they did say something about the dog in french, though. i just wasn't sure if it was his dog or his jacket. Tocz 15:41, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Red Horse Vector...any reference to the red horse of the apocalypse?? -Velvolver 16:29, 7 April 2007 (PDT)

You mean like the four horses of the apocolipse? (Ignore my spelling...) Maybe. --Electric 19:35, 7 April 2007 (PDT)

Yeah, except the red horse was war. I think this would be a pale horse (Plauge, disease, pestilence, death).-Velvolver 08:09, 8 April 2007 (PDT)

A posit: Perhaps it's a Red Horse because it causes unfathomable rage in people. It inspires men to fight and kill--thus, it's a sort of viral red horse, forcing its victim to war until he bleeds out.-Saturnine Night

Well, this could be a good cause for the USA to go to war again. As a (possibly unintentional) side note, the report mentions Directive 21-03, "Eye for an Eye" which is used to justify testing the chemical on muslim prisoners. March 21 is the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (racial/religious divisions being a major part of YZ) Phillowe88 08:15, 8 April 2007 (PDT)

I have written a really great theory on how the last events played out (IMO). The RHV being the catalyst to cause the US to launch all nukes for great justice, eventually causing the presence to say "That's enough". Here's a link: http://www.ninwiki.com/Talk:The_Great_Destroyer

Good theory but it comes to bits when you look at the YZ timeline. The US launching nukes occured in March -13BA (March 2009) while the Red Horse appeared in -2BA (2019) I like your thinking though. The original delivery method may not be by person. What if someone packed a nice bomb full of it and blew it up in a public place (much like the Angry Sniper) Phillowe88 16:12, 8 April 2007 (PDT)

The nuke strike I'm referring to would be a catastrophic world wide event, enough to trigger the presence into saying "Enough is enough". Not the one on Iran and North Korea, since it didn't start the end of the world...obviously that hasn't happened yet, since it would be the end of everything. Red Horse is very close to the 2022 date of everything going to hell (3 years). And I doubt angry sniper would get a hold of RH. -Velvolver 05:30, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Again, good points. I didnt mean AS would use the virus, i meant the "IA" mentioned in the video (Islamic Alliance?) might use it in a similar tactic. Incidentally, the RH virus being released might be what finally sets the Presence off given the fact that RH didnt show up for -2BA. That is what i think will set The Presence off, a massive biostrike. Phillowe88 10:26, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Anyone guess the hidden text? It might be Dr. Albert Schweitzer, from World Book Yearbook: The fundamental fact of human awareness is this: “I am life that wills to live in the midst of life that wills to live.” A thinking man feels compelled to approach all life with the same reverence he has for his own. Thus, all life becomes part of his own experience.” J.theYellow 00:37, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

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BTW, did anyone notice the To/CC list for the Red Horse memo?

   Director, Defense Research and Engineering
   General Counsel of the Department of Defense
   Chairman, Cedocore Industries
   Brand Director, VOX
   Chief Executive Officer, CDC
   Board of Directors, Halli-Bech Reynolds
   Chairman of the Synod, New Evangelical Church
   
   
   CC: Special Operations Director, Bureau of Morality

I like that Halli-Bech Reynolds. Sounds like Halliburton, Bechtel and RJ Reynolds form a megacorp that's deeply in bed w/ the Administration in Year Zero, eh? Also, the Consolidated Intelligence Agency... The same Consolidated that runs the US's email system? --Mr z 14:45, 14 April 2007 (PDT)

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Not sure if it's appropriate to add this or not. http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/01/pentagon-resear.html Seems like a case of life imitating art. Tin Heart 02:53, 19 January 2008 (PST)

I found something interesting, and dunno if it goes here, but it was my best guess. . .

Hey, I've been doing some searches on some hints in the music, and something told me to check out this site I found in the search results (below). U all need to check it out. I think it may be something very different from most of the other "fuzzy from the future" yr zero sites, but there is some very clear links immediately noticeable 2 anyone. It discusses a real and current cold case of a murder of a female Doctor in NEW ORLEANS, that has never been solved, that links 2 our nation's/government's secrets regarding medical experiments with a cancer-causing virus. It states the following: "On one level this book is a cold-case investigation into the 1964 murder of Dr. Mary Sherman in New Orleans — a murder which remains unsolved and is remembered as one of the most mysterious ever committed in a city that has known so much mystery and so many murders. But there is more to this story than murder and mystery. Understanding the death of this one woman unravels much of our nation’s secret history. It illuminates the darkness. It connects great medical disasters of our time to important political events of the day. It unveils the contamination of hundreds of millions of doses of the polio vaccine with dozens of monkey viruses. It spotlights the epidemic of soft tissue cancers that swept our country. And it exposes dangerous secret experiments which used radiation to mutate cancer-causing monkey viruses. It connects leaders of American medicine to the accused assassin of the President of the United States. This one murder helps us understand why we have been lied to with such conviction for so many years — and why those lies are likely to continue." So it seems as tho due to locale, and the stuff mentioned here, that it seems there is a link to "red horse-ish" stuff in an area where TR lived 4 so long, but oddly it is a normal looking pdf site, and events that really happened I guess, and so I dunno what to make of it, but if u wanna check it out and help me fig this out, there's the link (it's in PDF format) http://www.themonkeyvirus.com/PDFs/DMM-prologue.pdf and I wanna know what people think about this. Did TR know about this? He must've. Is it another ref 2 a kind of red horse-type virus or something similar tested by the government then covered up? Why is it not like the other sites? Does TR want us to look further? Has anyone found any new yr zero sites lately? any that r not like the others? Let's try to fig this out. . . Let me know if any of u have any insight into this content or have found something similar and r working seriously on this puzzle. This is not the 1st site I've found by following song clues either that have mysterious connections to the puzzle, but r oddly not like the other yr 0 sites. I also found one on Messianic Judaism, from a song lyric from God Given, and one about a group calling themselves "this great nation". I don't think we should discount sites like this just because they r "normal" looking at 1st glance, especially if they have obvious linkable facts. Maybe they fit into the current time frame (that is before the sh*! hit the fan kicking off the the yr zero world?) events that contributed and lead up to. . ., and is the beginning of this all? Also, some of the literature referenced in the "fuzzy" pages r from books written in post/current times, so I wonder if this means we shouldn't discount the events leading up to. Maybe they r clues as to what caused all the stuff in the 1st place (including pages like this)?

Very Interesting Tin Heart. . .

I have just finished some research myself into government scare tactics and soliciting fear responses, and I have heard of this kind of testing. It is also used in the form of media reports by using key word over and over like "terrorism" and "weapons of mass destruction". R they testing us all? If so it worked cause everyone seemed to look the other way about getting our civil liberties taken away in the name of protecting ourselves from terrorists. It would be easy 4 them 2 follow such mass testing too, just by peoples reports on the net. Mass hysteria and such works. I was a psych major and have always been interested in this kind of thing and even had thots that "they" r trying these out on all of us in one way or another, all of the time. It would fit into the puzzle well. Have u happened by any other normal looking sites, that seem to fit into the concepts for the puzzle, but r not like the fuzzy yr zero ones? I have found many (see my previous post). I think we maybe should investigate these normal lookin sites a bit as they seem to be holding some valuable info. It's all oddly very current stuff tho, but like TR said "it's all coming down right now". Maybe this stuff is all the lies and secrets that lead up to the yr zero world happening? Maybe someone had a really bad vision and is trying to tell us so we can still do something b4 it's too late? But on the yr zero front, I dunno cause no one's seemed to find any more yr zero sites in a while. Maybe we should start a section for "possible normal looking sites needing further investigation". I've found so many. Look up Dr. Gupta for example (that name on that Hollywood Memoriam list). He's a well respected doctor that has a lot of sites/blogs and a lot to say about natural living and healthy lifestyles. He was on some talk show the other day too w/a new book. I also have a huge theory about something else too, but am too shy to spill it here just yet (until I have more evidence). Get a hold of me if u wanna work on this stuff. I need a puzzle buddy.