Talk:Survivalism (song)

Video Bible Verse

In the "TV Room" the picture of Jesus in the background has John 19:34 written on it. Think this is worth mentioning in here? Or anywhere?

If it's really there then it is worth posting, DO IT! Also post the actual verse behind it (and the translation). The verse refers to Jesus' side being stabbed torwards the end of the cruxifiction. Does anyone know how this relates to the arg?

--Velvolver 06:36, 9 March 2007 (PST)

Three of the Bible verses (John 19:34, Exodus 7:21 and II Kings 3:22) all seem to refer in various ways to The Water Turned To Blood. The two verses mentioned from Revelation (18:3-4) dovetail rather nicely with the lyrics of the song. --Mr z 14:48, 11 March 2007 (PDT)

Added the Isaiah verse. Also pertains to blood and water. --Girlmeetsgirl 06:52, 13 March 2007 (PDT)

Possible Morse Code (in GarageBand files)

There's a lot of ultra low end going on in some of these files, They appear to tap out more of the Morse Code we've seen before.

(Especially noteworthy is unsynchronized Low end on Our End Trip, Radio Noise, and Saul Vox)

Also, anyone had a chance to play with the visualizers to see if the low end might be offering more visual clues, there's also some unusual, clean and smooth noise going low on the right channel of Our End Trip --killjoy 12:46, 14 March 2007 (PDT)

Sadly I have no way to help in this aspect:/ Lets just make sure any numbers that pop up from said morse code are double checked, we don't want another 24.15.8 -_-

Time Counter ends on 9/11

I have just gotten into this Year Zero Virtual World. But I wonder if anyone else had noticed that the Time Counter ends with the following 11:09:[seconds], which according to the European order of dates would be the equivalent of 9/11.

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Help adding an image

I'm trying to add a thumbnail of the Bureau Of Morality's censor screen. I can get the full image on the page, but I can't seem to get it to show as a thumbnail. If someone could fix that I'd be greatly appreciative. ==Leo3375 20:21, 20 March 2007 (PDT)leo3375

I think something's wrong with the database. I'll talk to Malechite about it the next time I see him. -Heroicraptor 08:29, 21 March 2007 (PDT)

Opal injection?

I'm assuming that girl is injecting opal or whatever into her eyeballs? Is that a fair guess?

The man in the frame is either injecting it into her eye or he's using an eye-dropper. I was pretty surprised that the frame where it actually happens was left intact on MTV. Leo3375 12:18, 30 March 2007 (PDT)

Lyrics Confusion—Let's settle this!

On the official lyrics, the last two lines of the third verse are written as follows:

I turn and keep on walking

What you'd do the same thing in the circumstance I'm sure you understand

However, in the song itself, it became:

I turn just keep on walking

What you'd do the same thing in the circumstance I'm sure you'll understand

Now, I'm really uppity about keeping the lyrics as they appear in their respective liner notes. However, I would like some clarification as to which version should be used. Should we use what was printed with the single and album, or should we instead go with what was said in the song itself?Leo3375 13:18, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

We should probably use what is said in the song and then put a notice on the bottom saying that the song says 'this' however the liner notes say 'this'... as we should probably do with Eraser Jgrizzy89 13:35, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

I like that idea but I think it should be the reverse. What is printed in the liner notes should be the lyrics with a note below them indicating the differennce between what is printed and what was said. But that's just me.Leo3375 13:39, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

Compromise excepted! :) Jgrizzy89 13:51, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

Trent Arrested?

Um I really didn't know where to put this so I'll put it here and on Terminal. Ok supposedly he (trent) was taken away while recording survivalism, but on Terminal the evidence you can listen to is actually Capital G. Just thought that was a weird kind of mix up Idk.-Kickemwhentheyredown 15:43, 16 April 2007 (PDT)

I don't know if it's too crazy to asume he was just arrested for subversive material, and considering that Survivalism and Capital G are his too singles, it's safe to assume he was arrested for both, but Capital G caught their attention more, or something :) ... Jgrizzy89 17:32, 16 April 2007 (PDT)

Also (very crazy theory) if all of this is being sent back to us from Year Zero, maybe they were all sent in reverse order... like in Year Zero, Capital G was the first single, Then the album came out, then Survivalism came out (and then he was arrested)... and since it was sent back to us in reverse order (presuming Capital G is next single...) then Survivalism came to us first, then the album released, then Capital G will come out as the next single... that could work??? lol (told you it was a little crazy... just speaking what's at the top of my mind...) Jgrizzy89 17:32, 16 April 2007 (PDT)

Opalheartclinic Lyrics

Obviously, the lyrics to this remix are almost completely different from the "Tardusted" remix and the album original. Has anyone been able to transcribe the lyrics yet? And if so, do you think it would be worth posting them on this page?--Leo3375 12:45, 3 May 2007 (PDT)

Then you gotta think about transcribing the Gave Up remix's lyrics and Fist Fuck's lyrics. -Heroicraptor 22:25, 21 August 2007 (PDT)

Obfuscated lyrics

There seems to be several obfuscated lyrics in this song, for example, I recently started to hear "I can see right through myself" on the right channel at 4:13. I'm not completely sure though, but if that's true it's actually repeated starting from 3:33 until 4:13. Can someone confirm this? 2072 14:11, 22 November 2009 (PST)

have you checked out the multitracks? - Seasonsinthesky 15:24, 22 November 2009 (PST)

I was a bit curious as to what was being sung during this part of the song as well so I isolated the part with the multitracks and found out that it's Trent repeating "I got survivalism" in a distorted and echoing manner which changes somewhat each time. http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/12/64610/Survivalism.mp3 Kornwolf 20:17, 9 February 2010 (PST)

Was that meant to be hard to hear? I knew that was there and thought you guys were talking about something totally different :S sheepdean Try to speak as clearly as you can 06:38, 10 February 2010 (PST)

Well it's a bit hard to hear/understand in the song, but as you can tell when it's isolated, it's easily understandable. I knew he was saying survivalism, but I couldn't make out anything else before I isolated it. Kornwolf 09:40, 10 February 2010 (PST)